For certain potential Doomsday/Secret Wars cameos, is it safe to say that the “Beast method” is the way to go? Fully rendered CGI models, instead of practical effects.. I do wonder if they’d get that huge visual upgrade as well.
Kelsey Grammer’s Beast was brought to life with make up and practical effects for X:Men: The Last Stand (2006), but for his appearance in the post-credits scene of The Marvels—17 years later, Beast was completely computer generated with Grammer returning to voice him.
I think there’s a lot of reasons behind making Beast CGI: one is that it helped reinvent Grammer’s portrayal to be visually closer to the comics & animated series. The facial structure, larger build and perhaps more agile movement would be harder to do with practical effects, and would also be lot easier for the actor.
If characters like Chiklis’ Thing & Ferrigno’s Hulk ever returned, I don’t think there’s a need to smother the actors with heavy makeup, especially if it’s just a brief cameo. I just wonder if their appearances would need to be slightly modified and upgraded to fit better among the other cast of heroes—for example: making Ferrigno a little bigger and monstrous so that he looks less like a regular sized bodybuilder in green makeup, or updating Chiklis with a more detailed and realistic rocky texture to better match up with his CGI’ed MCU counterpart. How much can you visually change before they are unrecognizable to audiences and become disconnected from their original portrayal?
Why I’d love to see Michael Chiklis’ Ben Grimm/Thing (2004/2008 Fantastic Four films), and Lou Ferrigno’s Hulk (The Incredible Hulk TV series from 1978-1982) return:
Two visually distinct and iconic figures that each represent very different eras of Marvel in live-action. In my personal opinion, the way their monstrous forms were adapted—despite the lack of technological advancements and refinements, greatly exemplified Marvel’s willingness to dip their toes into the more fantastical and obscure nature of the comics.
I think there’s a lot of reasons behind making Beast CGI: one is that it helped reinvent Grammer’s portrayal to be visually closer to the comics & animated series. The facial structure, larger build and perhaps more agile movement would be harder to do with practical effects, and would also be lot easier for the actor.
If characters like Chiklis’ Thing & Ferrigno’s Hulk ever returned, I don’t think there’s a need to smother the actors with heavy makeup, especially if it’s just a brief cameo. I just wonder if their appearances would need to be slightly modified and upgraded to fit better among the other cast of heroes—for example: making Ferrigno a little bigger and monstrous so that he looks less like a regular sized bodybuilder in green makeup, or updating Chiklis with a more detailed and realistic rocky texture to better match up with his CGI’ed MCU counterpart. How much can you visually change before they are unrecognizable to audiences and become disconnected from their original portrayal?
Why I’d love to see Michael Chiklis’ Ben Grimm/Thing (2004/2008 Fantastic Four films), and Lou Ferrigno’s Hulk (The Incredible Hulk TV series from 1978-1982) return:
Two visually distinct and iconic figures that each represent very different eras of Marvel in live-action. In my personal opinion, the way their monstrous forms were adapted—despite the lack of technological advancements and refinements, greatly exemplified Marvel’s willingness to dip their toes into the more fantastical and obscure nature of the comics.
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Also Lou Ferrigno returning as Hulk (possibly Maestro) would be cool.
Star Trek The Original Series was one they had a lot of problems with, the uniforms had coffee stains, some episodes the actors didn't bother shaving, the sets had a lot of material showing through, they had to do a huge amount of work when they tried to upgrade it to 1080p because SD hid the stuff behind blurriness.