Wonder Man Episode 4 - Discussion Thread
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|Episode 4: Doorman|[James Ponsoldt](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Ponsoldt)|Zeke Nicholson|January 27, 2026|\--||
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I actually got to meet Byron Bowers last week at one of his stand up shows, and I gave him my Doorman heroclix figure from my personal Great Lakes Avengers collection. He was *super* nice, and I'm really happy he got his own whole episode! Very impressed! Especially after what they did with my favorite marvel character Mr. Immortal in She-Hulk.
Wish they would've mentioned Milwaukee or anything about the other members of the GLA though.
Great episode!
edit: >!There it is, he just ate a guy!<
Then I am stupid haha I didnt know
WAIT! Roxxon was a big part of that show, wasn’t it?? Also showed up in Echo and Loki too
I'm crying 😭
Edit: a literally live reaction of me watching the show 🤣
Glenn Howerton would make an amazing Flat Man
(Heated rivalry, and now this)
1. Nightcrawler
2. Cloak
3. Doorman
4. Eldrac
Also snowman techno is not something I knew I needed in my life.
it’s a Twilight Zone episode
honestly what a genius/terrifying way to introduce an obscure Great Lakes Avengers member and using him to push the plot forward
also i find it fucking hilarious how Josh Gad is now canonically…uh…not in the mcu anymore…
Why did they waste an entire episode on the backstory of a minor thing brought up in the first episode? The episode length is already short enough, and it’s only 8 episodes. I can’t see the finale wrapping everything up nicely
The throwaway gag at the end of Phase 11 when the GLA finally assembles will be peak.
We love our home team!
Next up - Big Bertha in *Daredevil* and Flatman in *Doomsday*
What a way to potentially go. Getting eaten by Doorman's powers. He's probably still alive in the darkfore dimension but Im guessing he wishes he was dead.
Comics are weird
To clarify, Doorman is one of literally three Darkforce users in all of mainline Marvel Comics, notably other than Cloak also received his abilities through apparent Roxxon residual waste related incidents, explored in the Hulu series (now on D+). Crazy to see Roxxon still producing these experiments all these years later and totally *opens the door* for a C&D return!
That is awesome, and I hope he comes back
Also, I think he vomited up the substance that he originally absorbed, losing his powers.
*
Could be, wasn't he drunk? Reminds me of the boys, when that dude did drugs & well ya know...(idk if you do tbh) he exploded.
IN SUMMMERRRRRRRRR
Bad choice of words!
Thank you!
Also like how they cast Jeffrey Dean Morgan to be the dad in Supernatural. His age was right for the distant prologue, but then when he appears later in the show, they just give him some Grey in his hair and beard despite being pretty close in age to the actors playing his sons.
Also give me a Great Lakes Avengers dang it!
How does this make Cloak and Dagger canon?
C&D getting their powers from Roxxon was new for the show as Roxxon dont usually dabble with the darkforce and lightforce in the comics, so for this show to continue that trend makes it pretty likely that the show could be connected to the greater MCU.
* Came from Roxxon chemicals
* Teleportation via entering his body
* Connection to the Darkforce dimension
Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but I can’t find any example of Roxxon working with Darkforce in the comics, while there’s a clear throughline from Agent Carter to AoS to Cloak & Dagger of Roxxon doing just that in the MCU.
Haven’t seen cloak and dagger but heard that name in Daredevil S2
Roxxon is low key the most evil corporation in all of Marvel.
Fisk Industries and OsCorp got nothing on Roxxon.
It's extra hilarious though, because Hailee Steinfeld was on Arcane, and Imagine Dragons has done music for League of Legends, including the Arcane theme song lol
"Better to have no cookie than a disappointing cookie, know what I'm sayin'?"
This is literally more adult than Kingpin crushing a dude's skull in
Edit: Wow, reading the comments I feel like an outlier. I didn't care for this episode one bit but apparently that's a super hot take...
Probably because you admitted that you skipped "a good chunk" of the episode and therefore didn't actually see it to judge it.
Your 'take' has the same energy of someone who rushes through an RPG video game, skipping all dialogue and cutscenes and then complains that the story sucked and the game was too short.
>Your 'take' has the same energy of someone who rushes through an RPG video game, skipping all dialogue and cutscenes and then complains that the story sucked and the game was too short.
Terrible analogy on all accounts. More like if I've been playing through an RPG, got through all the story beats, watching the cutscenes. But the story started to get boring and started to drag on for too long, so I speed-ran the final area to get to the final boss so I could finish this needlessly long-ass game with a predictable narrative outcome.
The analogy may not be perfect, but that's the vibe people would get from your earlier post. I did. Changing that "a good chunk of" to "a coulpe minutes of" would probably have changed the opinion of most people reading of your post, it makes all the difference to me if I reread it that way.
Personally, I loved the episode a lot, and felt strongly for the hapless Doorman. He was clearly just a regular, good guy who was happy where he was, and success ruined him. It's an all-too-common Hollywood story, not everyone can deal with, or even want the stress of fame.
I appreciate not everyone would enjoy the same kinds of stories, though. That you found it boring may not be the most popular view to take here where the show is basically getting rave reviews.
Had to stop but willing to bet Josh Gad shows up again by the end... or at least hoping cause FUCK what a dark ending for Olaf otherwise.
Hoping and praying that this makes the cloak and dagger series canon 😭🙏
Josh Gad after returning from the tummy
Nice to see them also keeping up the running Disney songs within MCU projects gag. Is there a thread listing of them all somewhere?
As small as it is in the world of Marvel, no one would want to be known as the cause for a similar type of incident.
I can't believe they actually made a full episode about the history of perhaps marvels most obscure hero; and it was really engaging, like you actually cared... It just shows how much they can breathe life into characters with the right retexturing of them within universe.
Also I live a good capsule episode.
He's definitely D-list, but nowhere near to "most obscure". That would be someone with a single appearance.
Think Hawk Tua. One meme, or one random day made him famous. He never wanted to act, he was happy to be a doorman.
But his popularity got to his head and he ended up blowing all his money on the same thing that got him famous. And instead of diverting and trying something new. He just kept up the same joke until it got tired.
It's fairly hard in Hollywood to break a cycle, he never could and now he's blacklisted and being surveillanced
This was way better than expected. I'm kind of glad we don't have a lot of spectacle and large scale action scenes even though I love that stuff, but it just feels so refreshing to focus on characters and their relationships in a more grounded setting.
Anyone else loving these kinds of smaller-scale stories?
It's why I'm also liking A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms on HBO because it's also focused on two characters, but at a jousting festival within the GoT universe. You really get to the know characters, and show has a more cozy feel.
He’s barely appeared in 50 comics since 1989, you’re just being an asshole.
The only thing that would tie it to any race is the fact that doorman “ruined” acting for other people with powers and it’s more difficult for them to get cast but I found the episode more to be about the dangers of Hollywood in general and the fear of being typecast.
It also plays a bit into Simon’s constant anxiety of having to know the backstory of characters so to get the backstory of a man who causes him so much anxiety was interesting.
I mean it literally has roxxon that give doorman a power similar to cloak, I could even mistake him for cloak if he doesn't wear the comic accurate mask and had different name.
He seems has similar power with cloak.
There is also darkforce dimension user in Agents of SHIELD that I think had connection with roxxon as well.
The tweet of “tell me when his 15 minutes are up” reminded me too much of wreck it Ralph 2 where he sees the mean messages about himself like “just a worthless bum alone on a pile of bricks” like I can’t take it seriously when we KNOW what mfs actually say about someone on twitter lmfao