What's the ideal lineup that you guys think Sam Wilson's Avengers team should have in Doomsday?

I think it should be:

- Sam Wilson (Captain America)
- Kamala Khan
- Captain Marvel
- Ironheart
- Billy Maximof
- She-Hulk
- Echo
- War Machine (Skrull)

And then their story should occur off-screen, so that we don't have to see any of them in Doomsday or Secret Wars.

I agree Shang chi is goated

Not a bad lineup- I would streamline to 6 or 7-

Sam- lead/ Captain America

Capt Marvel- co-lead

Wong- was setup as working with Carol in post credit of Shang Chi

Hulk- working with Wong and Carol

Shang chi- was recruited

Shuri- the T'challa spot

Thor- og, might be his psuedo swan song

Helpers- Falcon, Ant man, maybe She Hulk

I feel like his team is gonna be around 6 people to match the og avengers and the new avengers so my guess is:

Captain America as leader obviously

Falcon as caps sidekick

Shang-Chi as the most skilled fighter (also his rings make him really powerful)

War Machine hasn’t been doing much recently so it would be good and he’s trained military like Cap and Falcon (plus an iron man suit is useful and cool as hell)

Captain Marvel as the heavy hitter and cosmic member of the team (like Thor in the og team)

I feel like we won’t get Antman and wasp on the team but I think we’ll get one of them. Antman probably makes more sense because he’s always been the main shrinking superhero in the MCU but I hope it’s Wasp so she can get more of a spotlight. Also it would be fitting since Shes a founding member of the Avengers in the comics

I think that some of your choices may turn down or reject the opportunity to join Sam’s team. They may want to go on their own or start their own factions.

I like the idea of Captain Marvel on the team so the following can happen.

Sam and Carol see each other in the hall. As they walk past each other...

Sam - Captain
Carol - Captain

All you need is ant man.


Up the butt

If I was casting it just on entertainment value, I'd go:


Sam


Kate Bishop

She Hulk

Shuri

Namor

Antman

Starlord

I think captain marvel will not have a major role. The Marvels did not do well in earnings. Lot of hate against her as an actress, the caracter Captain Marvel and her movies.

Maybe she will show up for a small part, just like in Endgame.

I don’t think he’ll be leading an avengers team. It’ll focus on Thor, Steve, a couple of Xmen, Black Panther, F4 and the Hulk.

Cpt Marvel and Sam have had very poorly received movies from the wider audience, they’re spending hundreds of millions on this movie, it’s going to be spent on cast/characters that the wider audience want to see.

From the officially announced cast, it's likely to include Shang-Chi, Ant-Man, Falcon II and Thor. I thought maybe Shuri too but from the trailer it looks like she'll be doing her own thing with M'Baku and the F4.

With no limitations?

-Captain America (strategic and organization leader ala Iron Man)

-Captian Marvel (field leader ala Steve Rogers Cap)

-Antman

-Shang Chi

-She-Hulk

-War Machine

-Falcon

-Quake

-Black Panther could go either way

Reasons for my choices:

- No Hulk: we don't really know how he ends up in Brand New Day and it's fair to presume what happened will prevent him from Avenging since he's seemingly absent from Doomsday. Besides that, I think he's just kinda over being an Avenger and would rather stay behind the scenes - I could see him living *in* the Avengers base as a sort of supporting side member, helping with science and research and stuff but not being on the field team (unless absolutely necessary).

- No Hawkeye I: Clint's tried retiring so many times just to be pulled back. Let the poor man rest with his family already. I'm sure he would step up if the world was at stakes but I don't think he'd agree to be recruited as an official member. Have him pass the torch to Kate.

- No Thor: I don't think Sam should realistically be able to recruit him before Doomsday since he's in space with his daughter and is probably trying to give her a life of peace. I do 100% think he's gonna team up with the Avengers *during* Doomsday as a sort of unofficial member, like Strange and Spidey in Infinity War, and I think that's a good way to go about it.

- She-Hulk: I still think the team needs a pure muscle character like Hulk. She'd add good variety, especially with her personality - The other Avengers on my list are all mostly serious military agents, except for Antman, and these two have distinct, different personalities. it's important to have contrast within the team's personalities to have *something* for their interactions to bounce off of and be fun. Like throwing a pebble into a pond. I also think they should still aknowledge something from the Disney+ shows besides Loki, plus a Lawyer on the team could be used to hand-wave the Sokovia accords cuz we don't really need that plotline in the movie, and I guess also address the New Avengerz name lawsuit thing which I couldn't care less about (unless it connects to Sam and Bucky's bromance)

- War Machine and Falcon: I guess they could be the "smaller" members of the team like Falcon and Black Widow, I see War Machine in surprisingly few wishlists but for me he's a must-have, we *need* Phase 1 representation on the team. Plus he was the best friend of the man whose face is also used by the main villain of Doomsday. Couldn't care less about New Falcon and while I wouldn't personally be upset by his absence if he wasn't on the team, I think it would just be bad writing to set him up like they did and just pretend it didn't happen, which they definitely won't because he's already confirmed, but which they're most likely gonna do with War Machine and mayyyybe Captain Marvel due to budget and popularity reasons, even though those two have actually zero in-universe justification to *not* be recruited.

-Quake: The team could really use a surprise character like this. It'd make sense for Sam to ask Fury for help with recruiting Avengers, and it'd be nice to have SHIELD representation on the team without Hawkeye and Black Widow. Almost all of the team members have powers that are different combinations and variations of Flight, Super-Strength and Projectiles, which was always a problem with the MCU Avengers imo. It needs more gimmick, specialty powers with unique usecases, Antman's the only member with those. And yeah, I understand the timeline implications of confirming Agents of SHIELD as canon, but honestly I don't think it matters much because we're probably getting a timeline "readjustment" after Secret Wars anyway, so just say 'fuck it' and go all out. I didn't even watch AoS, but it's clearly something a lot of people really want, and Quake being recruited is something that would make sense for the characters and would only bring upsides to the team.

- Shuri - I'm torn on her 50/50 because: On one hand it's logicially reasonable for Sam to recruit her because since the end of Walanda Forever she's been outside of Wakanda traveling the world, presumanly America too, and she could be the exposition scientist character in the Avengers base since we don't really have one to fill those shoes other than Hulk. But on the other hand she might see working under an American Figurehead as beneath her since she's the leader of a different, better country, and right now her goal is to use Wakanda's resources to help people *all* around the world, and assuming Aam's Avengers will be funded by the American Government (since it was Ross' idea), she wouldn't really see working for them as productive to her goals, UNLESS their base is not in America (It should be Celestial Island if Marvel locked in). I'm leaning towards the latter actually happening because Doomsday marketing portrays Wakanda as a distinct faction from the Avengers. In that case she would team up with the Avengers during the movie itself just like what I said about Thor.

- Shoutout to Moon Knight and Sersi, neither of which could actually be on the team right now due to Story reasons. Moon Knight doesn't necessarily have Power Diversity but his personality and visuals would add *so* much diversity to the team and make it much more interesting. He's just really awesome. Probably only gonna see him in Midnight Sons. Sersi's powers are super cool and unique and we need to see more of the Eternals, honestly any Eternal on the team would be a massive win for me, I'll take what I can get. Even if they decided to not make a sequel I had an idea for how they could've used her in Brave New World to set up Doomsday: Instead of the Leader inexplicitly knowing about the Multiverse, Sam visits Celestial Island, perhaps to turn it into an Avengers base, and Sersi is there - "I'm the representative of Earth in a Cosmic Trial deciding its fate. However, the Celestial Powers responsible have postponed their judgement, as they foresaw your Planet will soon have a crucial role in preserving this Universe's existence." After this you don't even need to explain how she's on the team at the start of Doomsday. Obviously it wouldn't be nearly as satisfying as a *proper* follow-up to Eternals but I'll take anything with them at this point. Sucks that that ship has sailed. They *could* technically make a scene like this in Doomsday and give her a similar role to what I said about Thor and Shuri, but they 100% won't, only chance of us seeing any Eternal again is in Secret Wars.

I think Capt. Marvel, Thor and probably Dr. Strange are more like honorary members and are usually busy with off world stuff and join in with the Avengers when it's critical.

Unrelated, it'd be cool if they got Layla from Moon Knight in there. Like if one of the opening scenes is Sam recruiting her to The Avengers. But I guess that would just piss people off even more about Moon Knight's absence.

Cap & Falcon,
War Machine & Shang-Chi,
Ant-Man & Wasp

These would be my 6. The New Avengers can stay in NYC, but these would reside in either California(with the latter 3 already from there) or DC(could be a cool base for Captain America)

Not Cap Marvel, Hulk, Black Panther, or Thor as they’re either too powerful or too busy in space/wakanda. But they can certainly be some heavy hitters that swoop in to save the day every now & then

I would agree with you mostly but ngl we do not need she hulk to come back and I would be fine if we just didn’t have captain marvel come back either. I like ms marvel and rambeou way more as characters. Rambeou already has a tie in as well. She has potential to be cool guys I’m telling you.

Sam, Shang-Chi, Wong, Shuri, Hulk, and Rhodey. When things get really bad, Thor and Strange are the aces. When they get really, really bad, they call Carol.

Sam in the Steve role

as much as I would love War Machine having the Co-lead as Iron Man had, I don't see them giving him a big role so I bet on Shuri's Black Panther

Cap Marvel should have the role of Thor, heavy hitter that goes on a side mission so the movie doesn't have a 5min run time.

AntMan and Wasp can fill the Clint/Natasha roles

New Falcon can fill the role of old Falcon, just being there to the side.

he’s doing the face behind the mask

Anthony mackie still looking like he knows something