I am excited for all MCU projects except Avengers Doomsday.
I am not saying everyone should feel this way, and not hating on it. It’s just a strange feeling I have, so, am I the only one?
I really loved the Infinity Saga and even most of the Multiverse Saga. I am looking forward to all upcoming MCU movies and shows, except the next two Avengers movies.
My problem is that Doomsday doesn’t feel ORGANIC. It feels like Marvel is artificially creating hype through heavy fan service. Let me explain.
I liked the Spider-Man cameos in No Way Home because those were characters I already knew. That’s the same reason the cameos in Doctor Strange 2 felt odd. Those were “new” characters or variants. Still, it somehow worked because it was only one subplot in the story.
But that's also why I didn’t like Deadpool & Wolverine. One major issue was that this Wolverine wasn’t the one I knew, and the movie didn’t do a good job of making me care about him. I am not a comics nerd, so maybe that’s why being “comic-accurate” doesn’t work for me that much.
What I really enjoyed about the MCU was the storytelling and following characters in their journeys.
But just like in WWE, it always felt disappointing when a wrestler performed whole year, only for a bigger superstar to return for one month and steal the spotlight at WrestleMania. That’s exactly how the RDJ, Evans, and X-Men returns felt to me.
I loved them, but their "sudden" returns feel forced into the larger story. The marketing now revolves mostly around them, not the heroes we have been following for the last 4–5 years, except Thor, and with very little focus on Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four.
I know these new character are not that popular, but it was also Marvel's fault by not giving them sequels on time (Shang-Chi etc) or giving bad sequels (Captain Marvel etc.).
These big names (returns) will likely get most of the screen time, while the others (characters they were building) will be minor roles.
RDJ is a great actor, but now everything is about how his Doom is an Iron Man variant. The potential of Doom feels limited.
Chris Evans should have returned earlier (or maybe never retired) but now he is back, and the first teaser is on him, positioning him as a main player in the plot.
And just like Wolverine in D&W, if these X-Men turn out to be variants, that will make me even less excited. These variant stories feel so hollow. I was sad when heroes died in Infinity War, heroes I connected with. I don't know I will feel the same if anything happens in Doomsday, because hey, they are some other-world variants.
I think Marvel should have focused on building a New Avengers team (which seemed to be the original plan with The Kang Dynasty). Then, if they introduced these returns in Secret Wars, it would have felt like organic.
Instead, it feels like they don’t want to bet on new characters after a few failures. So they are bringing back the old favorites and chasing fans theories.
Fan theories are good on social media, but if Marvel had taken the same approach with Civil War, it would have been a completely different movie with 40-50 characters and a massive final battle. But that’s not what Captain America Civil War was. It focused primarily on the characters they had already developed.
I am not against fan service, but it should support the story, not replace it. Even if a "New Avengers" movie had been a risky bet with lower box-office potential, it would have tied the entire saga together. Then the returns could have been added as surprises.
I really loved the Infinity Saga and even most of the Multiverse Saga. I am looking forward to all upcoming MCU movies and shows, except the next two Avengers movies.
My problem is that Doomsday doesn’t feel ORGANIC. It feels like Marvel is artificially creating hype through heavy fan service. Let me explain.
I liked the Spider-Man cameos in No Way Home because those were characters I already knew. That’s the same reason the cameos in Doctor Strange 2 felt odd. Those were “new” characters or variants. Still, it somehow worked because it was only one subplot in the story.
But that's also why I didn’t like Deadpool & Wolverine. One major issue was that this Wolverine wasn’t the one I knew, and the movie didn’t do a good job of making me care about him. I am not a comics nerd, so maybe that’s why being “comic-accurate” doesn’t work for me that much.
What I really enjoyed about the MCU was the storytelling and following characters in their journeys.
But just like in WWE, it always felt disappointing when a wrestler performed whole year, only for a bigger superstar to return for one month and steal the spotlight at WrestleMania. That’s exactly how the RDJ, Evans, and X-Men returns felt to me.
I loved them, but their "sudden" returns feel forced into the larger story. The marketing now revolves mostly around them, not the heroes we have been following for the last 4–5 years, except Thor, and with very little focus on Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four.
I know these new character are not that popular, but it was also Marvel's fault by not giving them sequels on time (Shang-Chi etc) or giving bad sequels (Captain Marvel etc.).
These big names (returns) will likely get most of the screen time, while the others (characters they were building) will be minor roles.
RDJ is a great actor, but now everything is about how his Doom is an Iron Man variant. The potential of Doom feels limited.
Chris Evans should have returned earlier (or maybe never retired) but now he is back, and the first teaser is on him, positioning him as a main player in the plot.
And just like Wolverine in D&W, if these X-Men turn out to be variants, that will make me even less excited. These variant stories feel so hollow. I was sad when heroes died in Infinity War, heroes I connected with. I don't know I will feel the same if anything happens in Doomsday, because hey, they are some other-world variants.
I think Marvel should have focused on building a New Avengers team (which seemed to be the original plan with The Kang Dynasty). Then, if they introduced these returns in Secret Wars, it would have felt like organic.
Instead, it feels like they don’t want to bet on new characters after a few failures. So they are bringing back the old favorites and chasing fans theories.
Fan theories are good on social media, but if Marvel had taken the same approach with Civil War, it would have been a completely different movie with 40-50 characters and a massive final battle. But that’s not what Captain America Civil War was. It focused primarily on the characters they had already developed.
I am not against fan service, but it should support the story, not replace it. Even if a "New Avengers" movie had been a risky bet with lower box-office potential, it would have tied the entire saga together. Then the returns could have been added as surprises.
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Kinda dont want to see any characters from the pre mcu marvel movies except for like maybe 2 of them
So basically they need to be the exact same versions of the characters or you dont care. Okay... i guess.
Personally, I think considering the saga has been about dealing with loss and grief and moving forward, and then also exploring the multiverse and how different choices can have different outcomes, theyve actually been building to this really well. The saga isnt about a specific villain collecting some mcguffins, not this time. And it doesnt matter if you're a comic fan or not, there are things for those of us who are and things for those who aren't.
How does the marketing revolve around them when its been literally 1 teaser for the x-men and 1 for steve. We've also got a thor teaser and a black panther one. Not to mention that yknow what the fantastic four and thunderbolt teasers were? the end credits scenes of their fricken movies. both of which were shot for this film. Guess where doctor doom first appeared... yea.
Also im sorry no i gotta disagre, captain marvel got a good sequel that was superior to the first film in every way.
From a marketing perspective, I know there were post-credit scenes, but it still feels like they are selling it as an RD-Evans-X-Men movie. Maybe I will be wrong, but that’s how it comes across to me.
I think there's a reason they chose Steve, Thor, the Wakandans (and Ben) and the X-Men for the first sneak peeks. Partly because thunderbolts and fantastic four were very recent and the last things we saw from both were doomsday teasers of their own. But also i think we're gonna see specifically Reed but also the rest of the F4 and thunderbolts along with doom prominently in the main trailer.
I dont really see how theyre selling it as an RD-Evans-X-Men movie when the teasers have just as much if not more of Thor and the wakandans, compared to steve and the x-men and absolutely no doom whatsoever thus far.
I’d rather them do this than restart and plan out another 3 phases before a big Avengers movie again. Not saying that was the alternative but it’s what I fell would have been the only way to get a cohesive story in the all over the place way the multiverse saga has been told.