Highway to Doomsday (reorganized watching order for the Multiverse Saga)
I've just introduced my sister to the Infinity Saga (minus Far From Home, I consider that one to be part of the Multiverse Saga). She absolutely loved it, so now we're going to continue, hoping to finish everything before December, just in time for Doomsday. Anyway, since the Phases 4 and 5 films aren't that interconnected and dependant on each other, I came up with the following watching order, just to make it a little easier for my sister. I tried to connect plots and arcs a little better, while alternating between movies and shows and keeping the 2 phase format.
Phase 4:
1. Black Widow - Dealing with the loss of Natasha
2. WandaVision - Dealing with the loss of Vision
3. Spider-Man: Far From Home - Introduction to the concept of a multiverse and Tony's legacy
4. The Falcon and the Winter Soldier - Steve's legacy and the Dora Milaje storyline, because of which I'd have the next film be...
5. Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
6. Loki (Season 1)
7. Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings - The Abomination storyline connects nicely to...
8. She-Hulk: Attorney at Law - New Asgard gets mentioned, so the next one is...
9. Thor: Love and Thunder - Continuing the Gods' theme in....
10. Moon Knight
11. Spider-Man: No Way Home - In the final scene, Peter swings over the Christmas tree at Rockefeller Center, which gets revisited in...
12. Hawkeye - Followed by the other Christmas project...
13. Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special - Followed by the other GotG project...
14. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 - To end the phase on a high note
Phase 5:
1. Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania - This movie gets referenced at the end of...
2. Loki (Season 2) - Because of the TVA...
3. Deadpool and Wolverine
4. Secret Invasion
5. Ms. Marvel - These two previously mentioned series connect to...
6. The Marvels - Let's follow it up with the introduction of another Young Avenger in...
7. Ironheart - Because of the sorcerers...
8. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
9. Werewolf by Night
10. Agatha All Along - These last few projects could all pass as Halloween themed
11. Eternals - Because of Tiamut...
12. Captain America: Brave New World
13. Echo - Because of Kingpin...
14. Daredevil: Born Again
15. Thunderbolts\* - Its second post-credit scene connects directly to...
16. The Fantastic Four: First Steps - One more high note to cap it off
So, if you've spotted any continuity errors or other mistakes, please, point them out and feel free to suggest corrections and improvements. Thanks in advance, guys!
Phase 4:
1. Black Widow - Dealing with the loss of Natasha
2. WandaVision - Dealing with the loss of Vision
3. Spider-Man: Far From Home - Introduction to the concept of a multiverse and Tony's legacy
4. The Falcon and the Winter Soldier - Steve's legacy and the Dora Milaje storyline, because of which I'd have the next film be...
5. Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
6. Loki (Season 1)
7. Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings - The Abomination storyline connects nicely to...
8. She-Hulk: Attorney at Law - New Asgard gets mentioned, so the next one is...
9. Thor: Love and Thunder - Continuing the Gods' theme in....
10. Moon Knight
11. Spider-Man: No Way Home - In the final scene, Peter swings over the Christmas tree at Rockefeller Center, which gets revisited in...
12. Hawkeye - Followed by the other Christmas project...
13. Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special - Followed by the other GotG project...
14. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 - To end the phase on a high note
Phase 5:
1. Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania - This movie gets referenced at the end of...
2. Loki (Season 2) - Because of the TVA...
3. Deadpool and Wolverine
4. Secret Invasion
5. Ms. Marvel - These two previously mentioned series connect to...
6. The Marvels - Let's follow it up with the introduction of another Young Avenger in...
7. Ironheart - Because of the sorcerers...
8. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
9. Werewolf by Night
10. Agatha All Along - These last few projects could all pass as Halloween themed
11. Eternals - Because of Tiamut...
12. Captain America: Brave New World
13. Echo - Because of Kingpin...
14. Daredevil: Born Again
15. Thunderbolts\* - Its second post-credit scene connects directly to...
16. The Fantastic Four: First Steps - One more high note to cap it off
So, if you've spotted any continuity errors or other mistakes, please, point them out and feel free to suggest corrections and improvements. Thanks in advance, guys!
Commentaires
I don’t think there’s anything “difficult to digest” just watching release order. There is nothing complicated about these movies.
For example, Eternals is an early Phase 4 project, as well as a fairly forgettable one. If I showed that movie to my sister now, she'd forget who Tiamut is by the time we got to Brave New World and saw Celestial Island, probably taking away from that film. In a similar way, losing track of such details could make Doomsday less enjoyable.
In other words, I just think that rearranging it all can improve the viewing experience.
Has she seen Deadpool, Logan and Deadpool 2? Those are pretty important to Deadpool & Wolverine
What about Daredevil Season 1, Daredevil Season 2, The Defenders and Daredevil Season 3? They are pretty important to Daredevil: Born Again.
As for your notes, she did watch both Deadpool movies, as well as Logan, I even showed her Days of Future Past (as a small intro to the X-Men). Actually, after all of that, we went to see Deadpool & Wolverine in the cinema, which then made her want to check out the rest of the MCU.
Unfortunately, I don't think that we'll have enough time for the Netflix shows, so I might have to just show her some recaps, summarize the important stuff, but we'll see...
Yea, definitely not worth it for Doomsday. Although I do think maybe you should wait until after Doomsday to watch Born Again (Seasons 1 and 2), The Punisher Special Presentation and Brand New Day. You'll basically have a whole year to watch the entire Netflix saga (all 161 episodes) before Secret Wars. If you watch one a day starting December 19, 2026 you'll be done by May 28, 2027. At that point, it's just 17 episodes of Born Again, the Punisher's Special Presentation and Brand New Day.
Brand New Day will mostly follow up on No Way Home, Punisher Special and maybe Born Again Season 2. It'll be otherwise self-contained and then the post-credit will probably include things like Peter encountering the piece of Symbiote that Eddie left behind at the end of No Way Home and being transported to Battleword (though we might not know it's Battleworld yet). I have a feeling they'll pay homage to the original Secret Wars from the 1980s and have Peter wearing the Symbiote for the first time during this event.
We will see him again in Secret Wars.
Getting a serious look at Punisher seems essential considering the new Spidey flick, and DD seasons 1 and 3 are easily top 20 and arguably top 10 Marvel projects.
I'm going to go ahead and add Falcon and Winter Soldier from the Phase 4 list as well - anyone's headcannon from the epilogue of Endgame is going to be better than what we got.
Agreed Secret Invasion is likely their worst project, competing only with Inhumans for that title.
Eternals is mostly frustrating with it's one good scene only aggravating things because it proves it could have been amazing...
Quantumania was decently entertaining in theatres but I absolutely can not rewatch it.
She-Hulk actually isn't the worst adaptation considering the comics, but the court scenes and disrespect to Hulk and DD really sank it for me...
Okay, Marvel's rant incoming:
Marvel's came across as poorly written, with no character development or worse some actual character assassinatio, a floppy plot, another boring/meaningless villain, a big set piece that totally didn't work, the main character actual was the deus ex machina all along which is just atrocious writing the point of insulting the audience... there are basically two good scenes: the parents kerfuffle and the cat scene, but both were comedic in an otherwise not-a-comedy film so it kind of eats itself in a "what was the point/purpose of this" kind of way... hmmmm... one of the worst lines in all the MCU, reminding me of epically terrible lines in later GOT or the like... I kind of wish it was good cause it had a few things on paper that gave it potential, I wanted to see Brie get a good script/part in the MCU, and I love the Kree in the comics, but just like in GotG they are totally underwritten, undersold and underwhelming on screen... Anyway, thats about the gist of it for me, another "too bad" waste of potential and a LOT of money for a studio that used to be remarkably consistent.