Loki S2 Ending – How is Loki physically holding timelines, and what does “outside space and time” actually mean?

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I’ve been thinking a lot about the ending of Loki Season 2 and had a few conceptual questions that I’m struggling to wrap my head around.

At the end, we see Loki sitting on a throne, holding what look like timelines/universes in the form of glowing strands or fabric-like wires.

so, my question,

\* How is that even possible? Is Loki meant to be physically bigger than entire universes, or is this meant to be a symbolic / higher-dimensional representation of timelines?

\* What exactly are those “threads” he’s holding? Are they actual universes, timelines, or just a visual metaphor for causality/time paths?

\* You can’t really hold time and space as objects — so what is Loki actually doing here? Anchoring them? Containing them?

\* The show says Loki is now “outside space and time.” What does that practically mean in MCU terms? Is he frozen relative to all timelines, like a fixed reference point, or something else?

\* How was Loki’s magic able to infuse life into dying timelines? Earlier we’re told timelines are collapsing and cannot survive — so what changed? Is his magic fundamentally different now, or is he channeling something deeper than standard Asgardian magic?

I get that some of this is mythological or symbolic rather than hard science, but I’m curious how others interpret the mechanics and meaning behind it. Would love to hear different takes.

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JKGie2026-01-21 10:25

Long answer:

I think the scene is just a physical representation of how we humans can perceive it, as him physically holding on to the different strands of timelines. In reality, he transcends dimensions and it's impossible for us to even visualize (like how a character in 2D space can never perceive the 3rd dimension even though we can see them).

Short answer:

The shot is dope af.

thisisRedHere2026-01-21 12:29

Makes sense.
and yes, the shot is dope!!

T0ADcmig2026-01-21 13:06

Everything is metaphor and symbolism, you the viewer already saw the time powers he developed and can come to proper conclusions.

He's god of stories now. We know he can reset time and groundhogs day any timeline. No consequences to his safety, as we have seen him die and reset at death. The visual of him holding on to everything is like saying he is doing that in all the multiverse all at once.

Mimirs_forehead2026-01-21 23:28

Yeah this was my thought watching the finale way back as well. I loved the reference to Yggdrasil and how he essentially centred himself at the “core” of what we know as the MCU now.

But honestly, him slowly walking towards his glorious purpose with the score playing, growing the horns out of the helmet, and then sitting down with that facial expression, knowing that this is his fate? The entire segment was visually stunning, one of my favourites in the entire franchise tbh.

AlexWhoLivesDowntown2026-01-22 15:34

I haven't seen it since the day it came out, and that image still lives rent free in my mind.

The shot is dope af.

Zabadaboom2026-01-21 10:25

Magic

lk792026-01-21 10:43

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thisisRedHere2026-01-21 12:33

✨💫 Ofcourse. 🙂

mklaus19842026-01-22 00:55

Well but also, Thor did mention to Jane Foster in his first movie that magic and science are one and the same.for Asgardians.

So Frigga did not simply tell him illusions. She taught him the science of how to do that. Sylvie did not simply learn how to use her innate magic to control and invade people's minds she came up with the science on how that works.

Loki had lifetimes to study time and how to manipulate it.

The question is rather: how is the TVA in a weird metaphysical state that allows the people who are there to perceive the timelines like that in the first place? And the answer is also science (the Kang's 31st century science) that is so advanced that it is indistinguishable from magic.

thisisRedHere2026-01-22 06:00

Brilliant!
well put. 👍🏽

Void_Warden2026-01-21 10:28

1. To me, the best way to understand this is that Loki has been taken out of a game (the timelines) and given access to the console holding the game (the loom). It's like taking a 2D character and giving them access to the third and fourth dimension. They're not "bigger" per se, they can simply manipulate their environment from "higher" dimensions.
2. Each thread is a specific timeline.
3. Loki is feeding and revitalizing them. I think we can say he's effectively holding space-time since, the same way a child holding a marble is holding an entire universe of atoms.
4. You're still trying to think in terms of geographic and reference points. Think of it more like a reader holding a book. He's "outside" the book. But he can go back to the first pages or skip to the last, he can tear out pages or add new content, he can erase and edit the words within.
5. "Magic" in the MCU is the channeling of energies. Those energies can be personal (life-force), universal (from their home dimension), and dimensional (from other dimensions). Loki is probably using one of those to feed the timelines. From the coloring, it could either imply it's his own personal life-force or he's directly fueling time energy from the TVA.

thisisRedHere2026-01-21 12:32

That was one J.A.R.V.I.S level answer. thanks.

Lord_Matisaro2026-01-22 06:56

As for "when" it is in the TVA the best way I have seen it put is that the TVA is our now unless we see Loki specifically in a different time then we are following him but for the most part the multiverse order of existence is MCU release order.

pigeonwiggle2026-01-22 22:19

except WE can rewatch Loki S1 and we know the TVA has it's own timeline since Loki in S2 is travelling within it.

so it's more like, levels. if we're level 1, maybe the MCU is like, level 20, and the TVA is level 15. (this gives spaces for future levels to be inserted for retcons)

Lord_Matisaro2026-01-23 03:14

Lokis time skipping was more like back to the future time travel it works very much different in the TVA. When I say our worlds time I mean because we stay with Loki the whole time and the efforts he made caused effects in the movies which came after. The fact they all occur after Loki became the god of stories but not before implies that our time flows the same or similar to Loki time.

pigeonwiggle2026-01-23 09:33

depends. i agree that mcu has a pre-loki and post-loki chronology. but that to me puts loki closer into to the MCU as far as chronology goes.

further, you can interpret Loki's effect on the timeline as happening in two places.

1. end of s1. timelines start to flow into each other prompting loki to begin his season 2 panic.
2. end of s2. Loki becomes the god of stories and allows timelines to flow safely.

we can PROBABLY surmise that Loki isn't forbidding timeline merging because we're still getting characters transferring multiverses after Loki's conclusion.

personally - until doomsday/secret wars potentially retcons this idea - i'm choosing to believe that both seasons of Loki are best watched simultaneously as ONE 12-episode season and that ALL the MCU multiversing is happening after all episodes of Loki.

although, as discussed, "after" is kind of a misnomer, bc again, the TVA exists outside of Time in the MCU. so when they see that there's a brief hiccup in Quantumania that resolves itself, it's from that perspective.

so you CAN watch loki s1 early and then "when everything is funky" assume that's the cause of all the shenanigans like in No Way Home... (maybe it wasn't Strange's spell being broken, but a larger force at work) and then watch Loki s2 after Quantumania... but... i think it means you're watching FAR too many other projects before returning to Loki.

best to tackle them both and assume the reason for all the multiversing is bc "The God of Stories" allows it.

but again -- it's entirely possible that Doomsday will see Loki come to the avengers with some bs that doesn't fit that narrative.

MirkwoodWanderer12026-01-21 16:33

>he can tear out pages or add new content, he can erase and correct the words within

Isn't that an assumption though? In the show he could just be a glorified battery which I think thematically is better.

>From the coloring, it could either imply it's his own personal life-force or he's directly fueling time energy from the TVA.

It's just a lot of energy to channel which came out of nowhere

Void_Warden2026-01-21 16:36

He could just stop feeding a timeline with energy if he desired. That would be the equivalent of tearing out a page.

As for editing, he can timeslip and change events. And he has an entire TVA dedicated to enacting his vision of freedom with no annihilation for the timelines

MirkwoodWanderer12026-01-21 16:37

>He could just stop feeding a timeline with energy if he desired. That would be the equivalent of tearing out a page

Yeah depowering would be possible.

>As for editing, he can timeslip and change events.

We don't know that. If he's stuck on the throne he can't move.

Void_Warden2026-01-21 16:41

We literally know that the TVA, with Sylvie, is enacting a new model of time maintenance. It's been shown in action twice. That's what I call "Loki's vision".

We also know he's actively watching and listening to his friends.

MirkwoodWanderer12026-01-21 17:21

He's watching and listening but we haven't seen him actively participating.

Everything else is just tva doing whatever the person in charge wants

LewisRyan2026-01-21 18:32

I think you’re missing the part that loki is the one in charge, Sylvie is a variant of him remember

MirkwoodWanderer12026-01-21 19:29

Sylvie is a variant but he's not in control of her. So the Loki holding the universes can either listen or let go but there's nothing, at the moment, that says whether he can will changes to happen or appear in the timelines etc

That can definitely change in doomsday but we haven't got confirmation either way on that.

I'd also like clearer confirmation on whether other universes existed outside the sacred timeline and so aren't being held by loki. The tv series seemed to maybe do a retcon on that.

Regardless, I think loki basically becoming an all powerful God who is able to appear or reappear in whatever universe he wants takes away from the finale as it doesn't seem like much of a burden.

No_Orchid_98972026-01-21 22:49

I think all these points are great answers.

Regarding point 5 - what would you then suggest 'the power cosmic' is as referenced in first steps?

BunPuncherExtreme2026-01-22 01:41

Power Cosmic is the innate ability to channel and manipulate the fundamental and primordial energies of the universe through force of will. Unlike magic, there's no skill, instruction, or talent involved; it's instinctive, intuitive, and limited only by the user's imagination.

Void_Warden2026-01-22 09:08

I'd suggest the same thing as BunPuncher honestly.

epic3122026-01-22 04:06

I also like to interpret this as Loki is coined as the God of Mischief & Chaos, but in this instance he’s not chaotic at all, in fact he’s holding everything together. He’s the God of Order.

nicolewk2026-01-22 05:28

Only to a point. He's not controlling what happens in all those timelines and that's kind of the point. If he was, (and wanted order over chaos) I don't think there would be incursions. The whole point was to allow people to have free will and not prune timelines that didn't behave the way Kang wanted. Unfortunately, that leads to the incursions.

PanthersJB832026-01-22 06:41

So technically at this point his title would be closer to the God of Stories.

Melodic_Taste_7132026-01-27 08:49

he is actually The God of Stories.

GaryVantage2026-01-22 09:40

Thank you very much for this answer. I wish I had an award to give you.

shaithis2026-01-21 10:57

So, I vibed your points after glossing over them so I won't point by point a reply, however....

Due to Loki's ability to time skip, which I read as being able to slip through the story, as opposed to actual time travel, given he went back and forth for.... 50 thousand years or so (groundhog day was meant to be up to ten thousand years, so... Longer?) and during that time he learnt the science of how and why he could slip, what the timelines were etc...

Because asgardian technology is advanced enough to basically be called magic, but so is the phone or computer you are reading this on to an English farmer a thousand years ago, so he knew how to use a phone but then he learnt, through trial and error (and with a few smarter minds to bounce off of) how to build a phone, the internet, computers and all other tech that goes into it, from scratch in that time. (Essentially)

Now given what Loki is, he could do the magic essentially psychically, given what he'd learned, and as his goal was to hold it all together, I seem to remember initially so Sylvie could live, but over time he would have formed amazing bonds with his friends, he wasn't alone anymore... But, he finally understood that the only way to make it work was to... Stop being selfish and do what only he can do for the good of the multiverse.

So he did what he did, and to us, or in a visual way, and to dumb it down to understanding.... He slipped outside of time, of every story, and became the nexus that held it all together so that everything survives. He became the ruler of everything as he always wanted, while also needing to sacrifice everything he ever cared for...

So it is symbolic, and real and magic and metaphor and visual language, he isn't god, he has no power (maybe?) over any thread, branch, or being in any of the multiverse, but he is it's caretaker, he can never stop, he can never hand over the burden of his glorious purpose, that he always said he had.... (Seriously, 2012 he came, burdened with glorious purpose with the sceptre, holy hell that's some foreshadowing)

In short, most of your points can be answered with "it's not literal, it's a visual representation of Loki's knowledge, understanding and the outcome of it all that leaves the multiverse intact" I don't even think Loki is corporeal anymore, I don't know if he can become a being in a timeline again, but probably because comics/ movies.

chris_redz2026-01-21 11:13

>Due to Loki's ability to time skip, which I read as being able to slip through the story, as opposed to actual time travel

How is this not time travel?

shaithis2026-01-21 11:49

Because he could do it over and over and over without causing paradoxes, now maybe he was slipping between the multiverses, buuuut, even then, if he was doing that, he'd run into himself too, like rick and morty, especially with such focus on being at the tva. At first he met himself what, twice?

But once he got better at it, never again, so many iterations and tries at the same activity without multiple Loki's at the same time trying several different things at the same time, now that can be a cool storytelling device, for all the normal characters, all the sudden 2,000 Loki's are doing different things and then they all end up at the rifle having a pint until it all blows over. (Hi Shaun!) Even if it was different realities AND time travel since other Loki's doing the other things would still affect that reality, like that smashed floor from (something I don't remember) there'd be more than one Loki here and there..

But that doesn't happen, it's one Loki who can be in any place or time in his story, without changing the outcome irrevocably. At any time he can slip back, through, or around and try again, more like an editor than one of the characters per se. He has an impact, but if it's not the one aimed for, he can edit and try again, to try something else, learn something else and restart even when he as a being, is disintegrated many, many times. I don't think you can time travel after being unraveled from existence

That's not time travel as I understand it so it's... Not time travel? I heard he was the god of stories in the comics as season 2 was happening, and that's all it took for me to think "so not time travel, story travel" let alone accept his place at the end of the show

chris_redz2026-01-21 12:09

After they were all spaggetified he goes back in time and change the outcome

They never focused on the paradoxes but he is indeed traveling space time

Fuckedaroundoutfound2026-01-25 00:48

It’s not time travel because time travel is one person moving through time, start point end point, the story continues. So in time travel if he went back, there would be two of him. What he is doing is moving into his “spirit” into his body in time which I think is completely different to time travel.

We saw Capt fight him self when time travelling, and until Loki could master his new ability he also was time travelling until he wasn’t

chris_redz2026-01-25 01:07

You’re just making stuff up

thisisRedHere2026-01-21 12:39

No. it's not time travel. and thanks I didn't understand it when I first watched the show. your comment helped a lot. 👍🏽

thisisRedHere2026-01-21 12:37

yes, this is exactly how I initially thought it must be, it's a visual representation.

xyzsomething2026-01-21 11:16

It’s meaningless, it’s a plot device, don’t think too much about it, the MCU stopped making sense when they introduced time travel and multiverse, it is all a plot device so they can introduce characters and stories without caring how it all fits as they had to before.

thisisRedHere2026-01-21 12:41

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KineticForce472026-01-21 12:05

I tried to answer some of these questions in another post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/s/w9ne3HIOm5

Would love your view on if my answers hold up

thisisRedHere2026-01-21 12:27

Good Job. 👍🏽

ThePopeofHell2026-01-21 12:21

Can’t it just be a cool visual that doesn’t need extensive deep dives and fact checking?

thisisRedHere2026-01-21 12:47

ofcourse. and I'm okay with it. but then we get people like Scorcesse saying it's NOT cinema, and it's theme park or something he said I don't exactly remember. see, Marvel can ofcourse make "Fun" movies, like, just shut your brain off and watch. but at this point I think, Marvel is at the spot, where they can make a masterpiece (out of secret wars and doomsday).. then why just settle for a "Fun" movie. 🤷🏽 that's all. and I hope they make a masterpiece.

Peechez2026-01-21 15:28

Nobody knows what it means but it's provocative, it gets the people going

Aromatic-Cupcake48022026-01-21 12:47

Christopher Nolan said to feel his movies rather than understand them. Or it can be up to your own interpretation. I don’t think the writer/producers knew the physics of everything happening in that scene. The Russos will have to follow up on this and give a more streamlined multiverse logic.

thisisRedHere2026-01-21 12:59

Exactly. Like when Tony invented Time Travel in Endgame, he said "Make a Mobius strip".. and I don't what that means 😅 he said something about Plank Scale also, and ofcourse I don't know what that means.. the answer or reason doesn't have to be "scientifically accurate".. it can be fun. like you said, Russows can give their own logic. Like, Peter getting bitten by a radioactive spider... doesn't make sense.. Not possible... BUT the fact they put forth, was somehow solid and trustworthy.. so we fans enjoyed it more. instead something like "oh, he just did it with magic", doesn't sound that much...... good. 🙂 to me atleast 🙏🏽

Peevesie2026-01-21 18:05

A mobius strip is a 3 d object with only one side. Take a strip of paper, make a single twist and stick the ends together. Then try to trace only one side of the paper.

The google drive logo for example is a mobius strip.

My understanding of Planck scale is where all things like speed, gravity become so large that they breakdown into a black hole. Don’t ask me why and how. From what I understand you need a masters in physics to begin to understand it. Or I might be stupid .

But möbius strips make for fun infinity scarf projects

thisisRedHere2026-01-21 18:23

You're not stupid. you explained it all well. I understood it 🫡👍🏽 Thanks.

GIlCAnjos2026-01-22 01:56

Yeah, some people don't realize that they're putting more thought into the story than the actual writers did when writing it

thisisRedHere2026-01-22 06:17

but I think writers "should be" putting in some thoughts, if they're getting those big money.. and when people refuse to accept anything and everything, no matter if it's nonsense, they're forced to write and make better movies.

leuno2026-01-21 13:59

The questions you ask are beyond us. The answer, therefore, is that the show’s interpretation of those things is as valid as any other. Maybe he is physically larger than the universe. Maybe it’s a metaphor. Maybe timelines can be outside of the universe it represents.

All that matters is that the audience understands what’s happening to some degree, and that it looks cool

thisisRedHere2026-01-21 14:19

yes, that's what crossed my mind at a certain point.. mayyybe, maybe when you get outside of "space and time" as they call it, maybe it just looks like that.. threads! and maybe you can hold them! who knows. and even if it's metaphorical, we accept 🤷🏽🙂. I was just wishing a bit more clarity on it, that's all. you know there are people like that, people who make theories and have read all the comics and always have an eye on what's going around with Marvel and maybe have a YouTube channel😎.. so maybe such people can clarify all that for me and others. but it looks like we're all just guessing. and I hope atleast Marvel is not as confused as us.

Tgirl02026-01-21 14:31

I think those, who were able to explain about Loki being able to affect the timelines with his magic, were good.

So, I'm just going to thoroughly expand on "outside of time".

The TVA (+ Void and HWR's castle) exist outside of time. So, anyone in these areas don't age even if they're human. They exist in some kind of perpetual zone where time doesn't work like normal. You can live eternally outside of time, because of the fact that you can't age.

That's how all the Kang variants were able to fight their multiversal war. When they were able to make it to outside of time, it was easier for them to try to manipulate the multiverse (raw energy) that way. In Quantamania's post credit scene: >! the Council of Kangs, in their space ship, were outside of time. !<

"Inside of time" means, as you know, the Sacred Timeline a.k.a. the multiverse, itself. So, anyone living within the multiverse will age like normal. They will die like normal if they have reached their maximum health span or become sick with something serious/fatal that's incurable.

Going back to Loki, he simply took over HWR's throne (/giant chair) so he's pretty much stuck there until Doomsday. He sacrificed his freedom to give life/energy to the multiverse, let the branches grow and know that his friends are alright.

thisisRedHere2026-01-21 15:19

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Yup! but about "Time", I think in season one they said Time doesn't exist at TVA (if I'm not wrong), and then in season 2 when Loki started time slipping, OB said it's not possible, and none of them could figure out until the end of season that how exactly time works at the TVA. perhaps they'll explain it in Doomsday. maybe time works differently in TVA "AND" differently in different universes. I mean the rules are different. because time travel worked differently in Avengers movies and X-Men/Deadpool movies. so let's see.... how they manage it.

Tgirl02026-01-21 16:31

Time doesn't exist at the TVA, because the TVA exists outside of time in its own reality. Very simple to grasp if you don't think too hard on it. (Understandably, I know some people make it more complicated than it should be. 😅)

The multiverse's flow of time exists in its own bubble. TVA's own flow of non-existent time exists in their own bubble. Both bubbles still have a past, present and future. However, the TVA's bubble doesn't allow any branches and everyone can live eternally like being on Peter Pan's Neverland.

Loki's own time slipping was caused by Loki going back in "time" in the TVA. That affected Loki's own temporal soul, which is why the events of S2E1 had to happen. O.B. never saw anything like that before until Loki showed up before him. So, he didn't think it was possible, but Loki became the possibility for him.

thisisRedHere2026-01-21 18:15

ahaa! 😄
Now I get it. thanks 👍🏽
are you a teacher btw?

Tgirl02026-01-21 18:43

😆 Yay. Excellent. :D Glad you got it, and you're welcome.

No, I'm not a teacher, but I do have a literature degree. So, I often use some literary analytical techniques on films, TV shows, games, manga, webtoons, and novels.

There were certain concepts of the Loki show that I was able to easily pick up just from my first viewings of both seasons. Then, when talking about it with fellow Redditors, I can see that some people could not grasp some of the story's "show but don't tell" concepts.

The creators did leave things for the viewers to figure things out, but I get it with some viewers still being confused. That's why me, and some other Redditors, have tried to help confused viewers on the LokiTV subreddit. We did our best. We've ran into some stubborn users, who think some of our answers are speculation/theories. Understandably, the show isn't perfect as there are some things that were left vague as well that we can't easily answer. But, I feel like those things are very minor compared to the ones that were actually answered in the show, but people didn't understand them. 🫠

thisisRedHere2026-01-22 05:38

wow. a literature degree, that's freaking cool 🤩. and using it to analyse films to games to novels (Man, I see you're a man of culture as well 😎✌🏽) is an absolute great use of it. I like and follow people like you a lot. there's this channel on YouTube, called NewRockstars, and I think they're really good at it, you know analysing from different perspectives. rather than dismissing a show or a movie after a watch, as mere entertainment.

and yes, Loki kept a lot of concepts unexplained, and some of you Redditters are doing a big task, helping people understand them. That is exactly why I made the post, hoping some leaned member would come and answer a few questions (or perhaps "Try" to answer) that are still stuck in our heads. So, when Doomsday comes, we are well prepared, and enjoy it completely in theaters.. instead of turning to our fellow movie-goer for help and explanation, just to find they're equally confused 😅.

😅😁 People find it particularly absurd though. someone thinking that way. 🤷🏽
but a man of culture has to do certain things. 😎♥️

Tgirl02026-01-22 06:25

Oh yes, NewRockstars. I've watched them for a bit of time (esp., during the Mephisto guessing game era). There are so many different Youtubers out there covering similar and different aspects of the MCU. I also take breaks from them from time to time, because sometimes, they can over-hype or get some things off. Understandably, that's their roles as Youtubers. They do it out of passion, but gotta keep the hype going. :)

Good that you made this thread to help you further your understanding of the Loki show. Glad it really helped you, and possibly, others who may still be confused.

One of my favorite film/show analysis team is Cinema Therapy. I recommend them if you haven't seen them yet. They're half therapy and half character analysis. So, they can see the deeper aspects of different shows/film. (They did a lot on Loki, impressively.)

I like what you said here:

>you know analysing from different perspectives. rather than dismissing a show or a movie after a watch, as mere entertainment.

Because, even the silliest shows/movies can have some kind of meaning. Take the Minecraft film for example. Yes, it is mostly all silliness, game references, easter eggs, and fun.... (Sorry for any minor Minecraft spoilers here.) >! However, underneath that veil of comedy/Jack Black, you got a story of a young adult having to take care of her younger brother, while moving to a new environment. This young adult had to grow up fast and take up a lot of responsibility. !< That, to me, felt a bit deep. The general audience will look at "chicken jockey", but I try to see beyond it. :D

Indeed, man of culture helps in reading into things like that.

Minor minor correction, I would be a "woman of culture", in that case? Haha... :) I'm a "she". Not a "he". No worries. Bottom line is everyone can be of culture, regardless. It makes watching films/shows fun. ...... In terms of the MCU, I just couldn't do it for Secret Invasion, sadly. \*weeps\*

thisisRedHere2026-01-22 10:16

oh yes, Cinema Therapy, 😄 I know them, I love their videos.
and Movies/shows/Books are meant to have a meaning. you referred to Minecraft movie, how you were able to see beyond the popularly opinionated sillynesss of the movie. you said "it felt a bit deep", which it should. not many people could see or feel that.
All this shapes you as a person and we we hope it's for the better. Like take Lion King (Animated), we have all seen it, but one scene strikes me the most, when Rafiki inspires Simba to look into a pond, and he (Simba) sees his father's reflection in his own, feeling Mufasa's long yearned presence.. that scene just moves me everytime. people can argue that it's just a movie for kids and such deep, thought provoking scene needed not to be there, kids won't get it anyway, but I think it gave that movie the "feel". because I was a kid when I watched it first, I might not have realised the depth of the scene at that time but as I grew older I could really feel that scene. I think all kids should watch such movies, Lion King, Harry Potter or even some Marvel ones. Great inspiration some films are.

and I didn't realise you are a girl 🙏🏽😅 sorry about that. I'm actually new over here on Reddit. and I don't quite understand it, I'm just old I think 🙃. I remember the time when for social media, we had Orkut (I don't know if you know this thing). and our generation thought of ourselves as geniuses because we could "use" it 😅. but Reddit! my god, this thing is something else. I don't understand people's usernames here, let alone Reddit's other functionality 🤷🏽.

and I prefer pretending that Secret Invasion never really happened 😭.

Tgirl02026-01-22 15:58

Lion King is definitely a good example. On the surface, as you said, some people will assume it's just a children's animated film, but forget that it's really made for the general audience. Meaning, there are things for adults in the film as well. It has its sad parts that can make someone cry at any age. Your example of Rafiki showing Simba that his father "lives in him" is definitely a good pick of showing how deep the movie can get. (The stage musical version of that scene is powerful.)

Definitely agree with you that kids should definitely watch a lot of those films, that we grew up on, and see how their brains develop from watching them. On top of that, reading as well. I think many of the current young generation are too glued on their phones/tablets watching short videos that help shorten their attention spans.

😅 I thought my avatar may give something away, but that's ok. Also, very understandable since you are new to Reddit. It explains why your own avatar is at the default visual image. You have the option to change your avatar if you want, or leave it like that. Completely optional.

I don't think I've heard of Orkut, but I do get it on the being on the old side of things when it comes to social media and the internet in general. I've also been around the internet long enough to see how things have changed over time and how people adapt to them.

😊 As for you getting use to Reddit, you can take your sweet time going through all of its functions or not use most of them. Much like other public forums, the more you post here, you get rewarded with achievements and some perks. Even new clothing options for your avatar. I, unintentionally, earned money here, which I still have no idea how or why. Reddit isn't perfect either, and has some subreddits that you should definitely stay far away from, but overall, it can be a fun place to be in as long as you follow each subreddit's rules.

You'll be ok. :) 👍

And yesss! Same! I also try to pretend Secret Invasion didn't exist or it was a branch timeline that was allowed to keep on growing.

thisisRedHere2026-01-22 17:33

they call it Avatar‽, yes, I think I read it somewhere in the settings. and I realised that your "Avatar" is a girl... oh she has long hairrr (I realised)... it's right there 🤦🏽😅. the problem was they all looked the same to me, toys with antenna/lamp on their head. but now I'll make sure I look at them pictures carefully and devlope a keen eye. 👍🏽

Internet hasn't aged well, I don't have a very positive review of it. I speak hours about it to people, and many of them get bored as well sometimes. The good thing about it I'd say, the reach has become global and big. like a simple reddit post is read by thousands if not millions. but a part of it is, people are gathering together (online), but not to make or share something good but it's mostly toxic and fake unfortunately.
and Reddit is definitely unlocking achievements, it's notifying me. and I figured out it's good if they're calling it "achievements".. I think I'll be able to buy a hoodie or atleast a Cowboy hat for my Avatar. thanks for your suggestion. they're really helpful. I didn't know all that. and if you're earning money, if you ask me - after all that we've talked - I think you deserve it. you're a good girl. you talk sincerely. and are knowledgeable. if there's one thing I learnt on reddit, is that people are not so friendly over here, mostly harsh with the tone.

Keep going. keep earning. keep helping. I wish you all the best. 🙂

Edboy7962026-01-21 14:36

He's powerful af

thisisRedHere2026-01-21 15:20

![gif](giphy|LSvB8JdEf4yascdXf1)

Dude is literally powering the whole multiverse.

anrwlias2026-01-21 16:15

It's time for the Mystery Science Theater mantra.

bangarang902102026-01-21 16:24

My man, are you asking us to explain the physics of the show? The explanation doesn’t exist. It’s like asking the physics in the Bible works. Loki is a god, so he can do godly things.

Dragon_yum2026-01-21 16:26

It’s not important kid, dont worry about.

thisisRedHere2026-01-21 16:55

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well ofcourse, I mean, it's not the first time right?.. 😅 we have seen Godzilla fighting Kong and Cars flying into space 😬 so 🤷🏽....

MirkwoodWanderer12026-01-21 16:34

I don't think they explained it well.

We're just expected to believe he suddenly has the power to power a whole multiverse.

We don't know where it came from, what powers he has whilst holding it, or even if it covers every universe or if there are other universes outside the tree he's holding

CaptHayfever2026-01-21 17:33

> We don't know where it came from

That part is very strongly implied: It was imbued on him when he was shoved through time, & then stabilized when he was yanked through the loom, & then refined when he practiced using it over & over for thousands of iterations, & then strengthened even more when he took a bunch of blasts of time energy at the end.

thisisRedHere2026-01-21 18:05

Spot-on! 👍🏽

MirkwoodWanderer12026-01-21 18:24

Taking energy blasts means he has the power to be a battery for a multiverse? Like that is a massive powerscale.

richard-5642026-01-23 15:51

It's also bc he already knew magic. Had Frigga not trained him, I doubt he would be able to do what he does. It's basically he was lucky to have the skills, and also had so many time related things happen to him, that he became the only person with the knowledge and power to do what he does, at least that we have met yet.

MirkwoodWanderer12026-01-23 16:01

Personally I still feel that's a big leap. The time waves would kill anyone but instead loki happens to take the brunt of them and they give him enough power to be a battery for a multiverse?

Too much of a deus ex machina and makes the ending seem too easy and out of nowhere

thisisRedHere2026-01-21 18:02

Exactly. thanks.

Araanim2026-01-21 16:37

in the course of the show we SEE that the timelines are some sort of physical energy strand in the TVA space that can be acted upon physically (the big braiding machine thing). so in the TVA dimension (or whatever you want to call it) he can physically grab those strands of spacetime. *shrug*

thisisRedHere2026-01-21 18:00

I can only agree.! at this point, after reading all the comments, I won't be surprised if someone comes and says, "You won't get it dude, it's Nanotechnology 🤏🏽" 🤷🏽

DoktorFreedom2026-01-21 17:01

His cardio routine is no joke.

servetheale2026-01-21 17:14

He's doing it by serving his glorious purpose.

Jk but you've raised some interesting questions.

juances192026-01-21 19:09

We only know that the timelines were made physical with the time loom, they originally didn't take this shape but now that process cannot be undone and that's why Loki essentially became the new loom.

How that technology works? dunno, it's sci-fi fantasy.

thisisRedHere2026-01-22 05:43

Yea, after reading a few inputs, I realised that the Time Loom doesn't only contain the timelines but it also gives them a physical form. I missed that part when I watched the show, because it's not explicitly mentioned, to best of my knowledge.
thanks.

Ethenil_Myr2026-01-21 19:09

Honestly my main question is how does this relate to how the Watcher perceives te multiverse; or what the relationship between the Watcher, the TVA and Loki even is.

thisisRedHere2026-01-22 05:46

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AmaterasuWolf212026-01-21 19:27

Don't let the "It's not that deep" discourage you from engaging in your fav shows, I liked some responses 💞

thisisRedHere2026-01-22 05:49

Encouragement from people like you outweighs and dispels the discouragement from other people. 🙂 Thanks a lot. ♥️

Little_Christopher_D2026-01-21 20:04

I found the entire season 2 of Loki to not make any sense at all, so it's best to just ignore it and say it's not canon

First_Routine_45292026-01-22 00:23

Bro you are gonna be dissapointed when the whole plot of doomsday is Dr. doom trying to retrieve Franklin to reach Loki to kill him.

thisisRedHere2026-01-22 05:50

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haha 😅 👍🏽👍🏽

JosephBeuyz2Men2026-01-22 00:30

It’s a metaphor. The tree is held together by Loki’s character journey across the two seasons as a way to defy the reasons we were told that before the loom was required to make the coiled rope. Pruning timelines to prevent Kangs was the was the internal logic but the visual and emotional metaphors slightly override the hard time travel logic, which didn’t really make internal sense at the TVA anyway

thisisRedHere2026-01-22 05:58

Yup! it's a valid take 😑👍🏽. and I see a lot of people hold that view.
Thanks.

romafa2026-01-22 01:57

Idk but this is my most anticipated follow up in Doom. I can’t wait to find out how they intersect.

thisisRedHere2026-01-22 06:02

yes it definitely does make one more excited for Doomsday.

Grbj82026-01-22 02:23

What I think people often forget is that the events of the MCU play in the same Marvel multiverse that includes not just other movies and TV shows, but also the comics, cartoons, videogames and so on. The Loki series actually only deals with the MCU's "sacred timeline" and its offshoots. Loki is holding those together, not the entirety of the Marvel multiverse. That's the Web of Life and Destiny. So, the characters we saw from previous non-MCU movies, like Raimi's Spider-Man and Webb's Spider-Man are in their own unconnected universes, but they are still out there.

thisisRedHere2026-01-22 06:05

aha! 😅 that makes sense. maybe some part of Marvel is out of Loki's reach.

Grbj82026-01-22 15:29

The fast majority, actually. Just watch Deadpool & Wolverine and all the Earths he visits to find a Wolverine. Talking about X-Men, that franchise alone has a bunch of universes.
- Earth-10005: X-Men, X-Men 2, The Last Stand, Origins: Wolverine, The Wolverine, Days of Future Past (original timeline) and X-Men: First Class, Days of Future Past, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Deadpool, Deadpool 2, New Mutants (revised timeline, which is my guess for the X-Men Earth in Avengers: Doomsday)
- Earth-17315: Logan (possibly already destroyed by an Incursion, because of X-23/Laura's appearance in D&W)
- Earth-17372: The Gifted
- Earth-17040: Legion
- Earth-700029: Generation X
- Earth-704509: Mutant X
- Earth-838: Home of the Illuminati seen in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness

And then the host of animated and game universes.

Funny enough, with Doom being the big bad in the next Avengers movies, there's a chance that the current multiverse war between Dooms in videogame Marvel Rivals is connected. I doubt it'll get referenced, but it's possible.

thisisRedHere2026-01-22 17:03

wow, that's crazy amount of data to be able to remember and process. but I think, isn't it, "us", the fans that are saying some parts of Multi-universe is connected and the rest is not.? whereas it will be Marvel, that'll decide creatively what to make canon and not depending upon how they want to tell the story. Like, Legion, for example, fans absolutely love that show but I don't think Marvel EVER even made a reference about it or will do it in future. which is different from Universe 838 and Logan's 17315, which were literally visited by MCU characters.

Grbj82026-01-23 10:24

Marvel decides what's involved in the story they want to tell. Everything is basically canon to their own universe and takes place somewhere in the multiverse. The MCU is just one universe among it all, but is the focus. However, Marvel has done a couple of things that have had an effect on everything, if it was noticeable or not. At the end of Jonathan Hickman's Avengers run the multiverse was destroyed and only Secret Wars (2015)'s Battleworld was left. The MCU therefore was technically erased for a bit. That was all fixed by the Fantastic Four and nobody remembers it happened. Another thing is that there are a couple of things that are singular, meaning there aren't variants of it throughout the multiverse. Otherworld and the Captain Britain Corps only have one version. This means that if it's shown in the MCU it should be the same thing we've seen in the concurrent comics. This makes doing Captain Britain in the MCU a bit tricky. It's also the Corps that give realities designations. (If not in a comic, then by other Marvel Comics published literature.) So if they say Earth-616 is the mainstream comic universe, then that's the correct designation. The MCU can call itself 616 all they like, they're actually 199999.

But anyway, this is all stuff that's not really necessary for any movies or TV shows to be enjoyable. It's all just a bit of fun. And if Marvel Studios take it a bit into account that would be nice.

thisisRedHere2026-01-24 07:18

Damn, that’s a serious amount of Marvel knowledge 😅 respect.
Genuinely impressed, a lot of what you mentioned (especially the Hickman/Secret Wars implications and the whole singular elements thing) was new to me. You’re clearly deep into this stuff. why aren't you already working for Marvel? 😅
And honestly, we need more fans like you.

Grbj82026-01-24 21:02

Haha! You're too kind! Working for Marvel would be great! But I guess they already have some people keeping track of this. (Although, they had clear errors in their official MCU timeline. But anyway.) I have to note that what I mentioned is what I currently have read. I'm not up to date with Marvel comics. Usually I'm a couple of years behind. Makes it easier reading with TPBs and such. Hickman's stuff I can definitely recommend giving a read. His Fantastic Four, Secret Warriors, Avengers, and X-Men are great, if you ask me.

thisisRedHere2026-01-25 18:11

oh 😑 I just wish my kindness could make any difference in the world someday, even if just a little. and I think some of you fans are doing better job than people working at Marvel 😅. don't want to sound too critical... but I think sometimes it's like a maze, when you're inside of it, you get no idea where you're leading. but you're outside of it, it's easier to find a way out, or a mistake in this case. maybe that's why those working IN Marvel couldn't figure out what we fans started noticing right after Eternals.
and keep reading comics... nothing like being behind or ahead, as long as you enjoy it.
also, thanks for the recommendations. yes, many people have praised Hickman's work.

splickety-lit2026-01-22 09:19

Mathematically, he's not bigger than any of the timelines. A string of infinite length has infinite size, and his size is finite.

But I like to think of it as a good physical representation of something that our minds couldn't conceive of. Like higher dimensions.

shehulud2026-01-23 06:49

Someone tell me Loki will be okay in Doomsday.

GoodDawgAug2026-01-24 04:03

Don’t do it. Don’t try to think about it. Just accept the absurd. Seriously. It’s a plethora of movies and shows based on comic books. Agree. Disagree. Like. Dislike. But trying to make sense of it…no fruit there, sorry.

thisisRedHere2026-01-24 07:20

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GoodDawgAug2026-01-24 13:53

Lmao

thisisRedHere2026-01-25 19:24

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