What do you think an MCU version of the Sinister Six would look like?

I imagine it would not include any of the characters from No Way Home.

So, working with just in universe characters:

1. Vulture (ignore Morbius)

2. Mysterio (faked death)

3. Scorpion (with suit)

4. Shocker (with suit)

5.

6.

Who should those last two slots go to?

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mikeweasy2026-01-20 00:09

I thought they were building to the Sinister Six in the third movie. I would have had Doctor Octopus, Vulture, Shocker, Mysterio, Kraven the Hunter, and Chameleon.

rasputin12026-01-20 00:11

we had 6, venom was just getting drunk

mikeweasy2026-01-20 00:37

Yeah he should have been in the proper movie!

Strict_Stranger_48012026-01-20 00:59

I think plans initially involved Venom being in the actual movie but Sony got cold feet on his inclusion

mmmasian2026-01-20 03:45

I’d actually bet on the opposite. After the Disney-Sony deal temporarily collapsed after Far From Home, I think that Venom being included in the post-credits for No Way Home was a condition of the deal renewal.

I’m guessing Sony fought for him to be in the film, Feige and Marvel pushed back, and this was their concession.

GypsyGold2026-01-20 00:18

I’d want to use characters that people legitimately care about. But if you look at what we got:

* Kraven (just ruined by Sony)
* Chameleon (just ruined by Sony)
* Rhino (ruined by Sony twice)

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So, if you omit Green Goblin, Doc Oct, Lizard, Sandman, and Electro from No Way Home that leads us with…

* Venom
* Carnage
* Hobgoblin

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Tom Hardy’s Venom seems like he’s coming to the MCU, and he just fought Carnage in his own film. So I guess those two are out.

Hobgoblin makes sense. It’s a good way to introduce Goblin Tech to MCU proper, and maybe eventually Ned becomes Hobgoblin down the line. I’m actually thinking Kingsley/Macendale can lead the Sinister Six. He can be the catalyst to getting the team together, maybe this version owns some sort of tech company, and Ned Leeds is his intern?

Still leaves one more left, and I want it to be an actual supervillain, so no Kingpin or Black Cat. The next two prominent henchman like supervillains would be Hydro-Man & Beetle.

Since they’re introducing Tombstone in the upcoming film, the Janice Lincoln version of Beetle makes a lot of sense. However, they did reference the Morris Bench version of Hydro Man in “Far From Home” so he works as well. Then there’s also The Prowler that got a cameo in homecoming, and in the Spider-Verse.

Personally I’d just introduce a comic accurate version of Rhino. But, that’s unrealistic.

**So I guess I’ll go with:**

* Hobgoblin (leader)
* Vulture
* Mysterio
* Shocker
* Scorpion
* Hydro-Man/Beetle/Prowler (just pick one)

Strict_Stranger_48012026-01-20 00:59

Hydro Man was one of Mysterio's illusions already. I suppose they could do a new, real, version of him though

GypsyGold2026-01-20 01:29

When discussing the illusion Flash mentions that it could be Morris Bench and recounts his origin, which shows that a real version does indeed already exist.

It was a throwaway easter egg, but they could work off of it.

Strict_Stranger_48012026-01-20 01:58

Oh huh, I missed that!

Edboy7962026-01-20 04:21

I'd almost hazard to say Donald Glover as a comic accurate (or matching the style of) Spiderverse was something they worked out independent of Sony pictures but idk if they'd have that version in the mcu even if it's the same actor as the same character by name

Obraxiss2026-01-20 00:28

Prowler was in Homecoming, so he could be included, maybe add The tinkerer as well?

GypsyGold2026-01-20 00:31

Tinkerer wouldn’t count. He could be the dude behind the scenes at the homebase repairing/upgrading their weapons, but he wouldn’t be out in the field.

Prowler is a good choice, I forgot about him

Obraxiss2026-01-20 00:42

Chameleon then maybe?, he was a minor character in far from home, (the bus driver who was working for Fury/Talos)

GypsyGold2026-01-20 01:31

Maybe. But Sony just used a comic accurate version of Chameleon so they might want to stay away from it.

Strict_Stranger_48012026-01-20 01:02

The 4 you mentioned (I've always been on the Mysterio is Alive train), along with a Goblin (Green or Hob variety) and a new villain we havent seen. Black Cat? Jackal? Mister Negative?

Or have Fisk be in the movie as the leader of the team

Or use Prowler, as a soft intro to Miles in live action

GypsyGold2026-01-20 03:39

Fisk as the leader could work. He doesn’t take the field, but maybe operates some sort of Spider-Slayer from homebase?

Pretty_Inspector80362026-01-20 01:16

Medusa?

robertluke2026-01-20 01:26

It would look like Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, Electro, Sandman, Lizard, and Venom but Venom is drinking at a bar the whole time.

No-You45942026-01-20 01:29

Rhino
Venom

GypsyGold2026-01-20 01:34

Rhino’s been ruined. I’d love to see an MCU comic accurate version, and I’d actually use him as such in my own version if I were in charge…but MCU is never going to actually do it.

thebeast_962026-01-20 01:58

Mr Negative

GypsyGold2026-01-20 03:44

I don’t think he works as a field grunt.

I know that they did it in the game, but realistically is the person behind a criminal organization, and without some sort of goofy supervillain costume really going to be taking to the streets to fight along side The Shocker & Mysterio?

He could be the guy who organized the team and calls the shots, but i can’t see him working together with the rest of the villains as a cohesive team

hell20_2026-01-20 05:46

Doesn't really need to be "taking to the streets" as he can just be recruited by Fisk to beat Spider Man

GypsyGold2026-01-20 02:11

**Basic Structure**

So I would have The Sinister Six finally show up on the 6th film. Hobgoblin would be introduced in that film, but Kingsley & Macendale can be introduced earlier in the 5th or 4th film with Kingsley portraying the owner of a tech company, with political aspirations. Essentially an Elon Musk type villain. Meanwhile Macendale would be his head of security (and personal assasin). I’d also have Ned Leeds be an intern for this company, that eventually becomes a personal assistant.

I want the six to be structured so that all the previous members (but Hobgoblin) are well established. So, Homecoming gave us Vulture, and uncostumed versions of Shocker, Scorpion, and Prowler. Far From Home gave us Mysterio, and a prelude to Hydro-Man. This 4th film is going to give us costumed versions of Scorpion & Shocker while introducing several mob bosses including Tombstone. I would expect Janice Lincoln to be introduced as well.

So the 5th film needs to establish whomever that final villain is going to be. If the rumors are true then Spider-Man will have the black suit for the 5th film. So I would have him and his internal struggle as the main focus of the film, while having him battle lesser known villains on the side. With one villain having a central role to overarching plot of the film.

I would like that villain to be Macendale as the Jack-O-Lantern (using proto goblin tech) commiting political assassinations on behalf of Kingsley. This would bring Peter into conflict with Ned. The other villains can be Prowler, Hydro-Man, and Beetle. I would have Black Suit Peter absolutely body all of them one on one within the first hour of the film. Leading to all four team up at some point by pure happenstance (meaning it’s not planned) join forces and fight together in order to give Black Suit Spidey some trouble.

But the symbiote would go into business for itself, and kill all of them but one that escapes. I’d active have this done by having Tom Hardy’s Eddie Brock stranded in Peter’s universe after Secret Wars, but without the symbiote. I’d have him find Peter and try to convince him to get rid of the suit, but his symbiote actually chooses to hop from Peter to Eddie — creating a comicbook accurate Venom. This Venom kills the villains, and then becomes the primary antagonist of the film for the second half of the movie.

Whomever escapes that massacre is going to be the final member in the 6th film. It can be anyone but Macendale, who had to die to motivate Kingsley to perfect the Goblin tech and form the team.

Kingsley’s thought process in forming the team would be that Spider-Man was an unstoppable force, bodying the villains one-on-one, but when they all fought together they gave Spider-Man (in his upgraded state) some trouble. So a coordinated team, should be able to down a regular powered Spidey.

At this point Peter knows Kingsley is dirty, and having been freed from the corruption of the black suit, he wants to free Ned from the corruption of Kingsley. Ned still had no knowledge of Peter’s existence.

I’d actually have Kingsley parish in battle due to circumstances of his own choosing — like he accidentally blows himself up or something. Then Ned dawns the Hobgoblin outfit, and takes his place as the leader of the Sinister Six without anyone on the team knowing. As he cosplays as Kingsley under the mask the entire rest of the film.

As for the Sinister Six, I’d have Kingsley use his wealth, power, and political influence to gather them together, and give them a base of operations at one of his facilities. So essentially the super villains get their own lair, and The Tinkerer will be there to help them build, repair, and upgrade their weapons.

MethodFantastic46292026-01-20 05:03

Donald Glover Prowler and Chameleon

Apprehensive_Egg66562026-01-20 05:54

Mr. Negative and Prowler

DarthGamer20042026-01-20 06:48

Think they’ll do black suit in Spider-Man 5 against Kingpin, maybe introduce Eddie Brock in that movie as well. Then do a Spider-Man 6 finale with Venom and Sinister Six. I believe it’ll consist of Venom, Vulture, Scorpion, Shocker, Rhino and maybe Tombstone?

ChaoticCaptain1772026-01-20 07:24

I agree with those four, the two slots should go to Hobgoblin and Mr Negative for if they actually get introduced in the MCU

GypsyGold2026-01-20 08:48

Hobgoblin is a must, and the easy way out for introducing goblin tech since Oscorp doesn’t exist. Also with Ned being Pete’s best friend (who no longer remembers him), it would make way too much sense to have him involved with the Hobgoblin story.

That last one is up for grabs. Mr Negative would probably sell the most tickets, but also make the least amount of sense. He’s a crumb boss, not a goofy costumer super villain.

InevitableWeight3142026-01-20 08:08

Probably a mcu Doc Ock (he was mostly a good guy in nwh, I assume so that they could set up a different version of him), Hobgoblin, Scorpion, Vulture, Shocker, and Mr Negative.

Soulwarfare422026-01-20 12:22

If a Sinister Six was to happen in the MCU, it would need to happen in Tom's final film as Spider-Man, so the 6th film (ironic). It also needs to be villains already introduced in previous Tom films so that they don't have to build them up because they were already introduced.

By that point, there would be enough villains in Tom Holland's Spider-Man portfolio

1. Vulture (you do have to ignore him being randomly transported to another universe in Morbius though. I do see him becoming an ally by the end eventually though)

2. Scorpion (he is returning in BND and will hopefully get the suit)

3. Shocker (Bokeem Woodbine hopefully returns with the suit)

4. Prowler (Miles Morales is definitely getting introduced somewhere down the line in Tom's new trilogy, plus casting Donald in homecoming needs payoff. We already see him with the Prowler suit in Across the Spider-verse so it will defo happen)

5. Tombstone (he is reportedly being introduced in BND so I can see him being there)

6. Rhino (Sony is reportedly more open to letting Marvel use their characters so hopefully a proper Rhino down the line for Tom)

I didn't add Mysterio because honestly, I think he is dead even though his team is alive. I didn't add Kraven even though I do think he is likely to be a main villain for Tom's Spider-Man in a potential next entry. Kingpin I think will also happen, heck he could be the person who organises the Sinister Six

GypsyGold2026-01-20 19:44

It’s Mysterio — he can come back at any time and people will just shrug and accept it because he’s Mysterio.

NamelessGamer_12026-01-20 16:35

You can't have Shocker out of all villains in Sinister Six lol

GypsyGold2026-01-20 19:22

Wat?

Universal_Watcher2026-01-20 22:38

Prowler should be there considering Donald Glover's appearance in Across the Spider-Verse as a variant meant to be from the MCU (reference in concept art). And we know from Homecoming that Miles exists in the MCU, so his inclusion is great for setting up Miles.

Either Mr. Negative or Doc Ock should round out the team. Mr. Negative for his seemingly implied inclusion in Brand New Day and F.E.A.S.T. appearing in No Way Home. Doc Ock for his classic leadership of the Sinister Six and a great twist opportunity. I've heard a theory explaining that Peter would view an MCU Otto as a good person because he encountered a variant who was good and the arms had just taken control. The twist would be that MCU Otto is a bad person from the start and he just became more dangerous with the arms.

So Prowler for sure, but we have great choices for the last slot.

JE1632026-01-21 05:59

I'd say Rhino and Hob Goblin