Could Doom's motivation be the Steve Rogers Variant?

HEAR ME OUT!
(I KNOW THERE'S MANY MOTIVATIONS FOR THIS DUDE BUT!)

In Avengers: Endgame,
Steve returns the stones back to where they came from BUT INSTEAD OF COMING BACK AS THE *SAME* STEVE WHO LEFT...

HE CAME BACK
1. Not on the platform but on a bench
2. Older man
3. Someone who lived/chose a completely different life from what we have seen so far

SO THE OLD STEVE IN ENDGAME AND THE STEVE WE SEE DANCING WITH PEGGY ARE TWO DIFFERENT STEVES FROM TWO DIFFERENT TIMELINES...

So the Steve that stayed/chose life with Peggy somehow fucked up Tony Stark's reality by causing an incursion to have his happy ending.

This is the life Tony had always wanted AND GOT, a family, a house, a kid and a happy quiet retirement before they recruited him for Time Heist!

*I feel like this would be the perfect parallel to Doom's/Tony's Reality.*

*You mess with time, it tends to mess back. You'll see*

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MrMegaPhoenix2026-01-19 15:14

He didn’t “come back”

He stayed in the past and lived a full life

Walmart-tomholland2026-01-19 15:20

That’s not possible. If he stayed in the past, it would create a new branch timeline which couldn’t just become part of his prior future. That was the whole point of the movie’s time travel concept. He would have had to travel back to the present from his altered timeline in order to jump back to the main timeline

MrMegaPhoenix2026-01-19 15:22

something something “he didn’t mess with the future and stayed off grid and so he didn’t change future events”

He returned magic stones and so magically he was free from that being a problem

FerrusManlyManus2026-01-20 16:19

This argument basically takes a giant dump on Cap’s character and it is amazing any fan of Cap would ever seriously claim Cap is just gonna sit around and do nothing.

Especially when he was told he couldn’t change the past / traveled to branches to do the time heist.

Edboy7962026-01-19 15:28

The way I see it, Steve going to back to return the stones and staying in the past and showing up in the same movie to reunite with Sam sounds like the 616 itself became a branch timeline

juances192026-01-19 15:59

Or the main timeline always had 2 Steves all along, he was just hiding.

The old Steve we saw is technically from a previous loop, not "our Steve".

"our Steve" that travelled back in time will eventually become the Old Steve of a future loop and so on.

FerrusManlyManus2026-01-20 16:20

“Hiding Steve” basically takes a giant crap on Steve Rogers and tells me you have a fundamental misunderstanding of who Steve Rogers is.

AtomicGearworks12026-01-19 16:06

It's almost like a major purpose of Old Steve was to prove they were wrong about how it works. And pretty much everything we've learned about the multiverse and Sacred Timeline since then has proved they didn't fully understand.

Endgame isn't the end-all, be-all of information about how it works.

XboxDegenerate2026-01-20 05:33

But like, you’d expect the Ancient One to understand and not just be making random statements about it

FerrusManlyManus2026-01-20 16:18

The “Sacred Timeline” which is actually a bundle of related timelines, was a scam by Kang and not a real thing (beyond timelines Kang picked based on Kang’s own persona whims and own self hatred). Did *you* pay enough attention

XboxDegenerate2026-01-20 05:32

It’s because the time travel is poorly written in Endgame

Whether they do piggy back off that into Doomsday is a different story

FerrusManlyManus2026-01-20 15:59

It’s actually not. It’s all paradox free time travel because there are branching timelines.

The only minor issue is returning the stones. If we posit he visits those branches again, after him and his time traveling friends left them the first time, then there is no chance for paradoxes and everything is fine.

FerrusManlyManus2026-01-20 15:57

No, he grew old in a branch timeline and then used his tech / pym particles to come back to his original timeline later.

It’s literally the only way Endgame makes any sense at all.

MrMegaPhoenix2026-01-20 16:04

Source?

Im saying he was in the main timeline and it worked out cos the stones were ultimate magic tier and avoids any illogical problems

Hehe. But I mean, they will fit it how they want to, we don’t truly know yet how it’ll be handled. I don’t think we even know if old Steve is in the movie?

FerrusManlyManus2026-01-20 16:15

The Russo’s said he grew old in a branch timeline.

Also the movie doesn’t make sense if you say he grew old in the main timeline.

MrMegaPhoenix2026-01-20 16:19

The writers disagreed though

I think we won’t know for sure until the movie comes out

FerrusManlyManus2026-01-20 16:23

The writers aren’t in charge. The writers don’t edit the movie. They aren’t as involved in the reshoots. Which were extensive. And they themselves said it was up to Marvel (see quote below).

It would be incredibly, insanely dumb to have our Steve grow old in the main timeline rather than a branch. The whole movie is branching timelines.

“That's our opinion, to be fair, I think Joe and Anthony might have a different opinion, and it kind of depends on what Marvel wants to do going forward," McFeely said. "

"We like that idea, but we'll certainly wait to see how Marvel wants to move going forward."

May 15, 2019

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/avengers-endgame-time-travel-explained-back-to-the-future-130000217.html

MrMegaPhoenix2026-01-20 16:31

Yes, we will wait to see how marvel wants to move going forward

FerrusManlyManus2026-01-20 16:35

Well here’s hoping they went with something that doesn’t make a mockery out of Endgame or Steve Rogers.

MrMegaPhoenix2026-01-20 16:44

Maybe but what if he’s just coming back to be killed anyway cos it’ll make people sad ;(

FerrusManlyManus2026-01-20 15:56