Marvel fans, assemble 🛡️ What’s your wildest theory about Doomsday?

I am very existed to hear all of them!!

My theory: Doctor Doom believes a Kang variant has control of the Time Variance Authority, so he confronts him to eliminate the threat at its source. The Kang variant is confident, claiming time itself answers to him until Doom cuts off every escape and kills him decisively. In his final moments, Kang reveals the truth: the TVA isn’t under Kang’s control at all… it’s being held together by Loki.

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Beautiful-Year54922026-01-19 14:03

Black Panther vs Doctor Doom
Two kings. Two visions.
Technology, legacy, and leadership collide.

tomophilia2026-01-19 14:06

Doom isolated Reed Richards to a single universe so he could dominate the multiverse.

The TVA is just as much about containing Reed Richards as it is controlling the multiverse.

Lastly, this could’ve easily been Kang’s had they not pivoted away.

BehindTheGem2026-01-19 14:08

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tomophilia2026-01-19 14:10

I’m not sure what you mean.

I believe it will be ‘revealed’ that Doom did all this. Not that it is particularly laid out plot wise.

Beautiful-Year54922026-01-19 14:16

yes. they can connect it directly from Fantastic 4.

CrumptownCrips2026-01-19 15:07

We've seen two Reed Richards already though, one in MoM and the other in F4

tomophilia2026-01-19 16:21

Yes and MOM was largely about incursions and then DaW furthered the idea of a crumbling multiverse.

PaintAccomplished5152026-01-19 14:08

Nothing. Never set any expectations on any movie based on what you would do if you were making it. Because no movie in the world that have ever existed would be better than the one you've made in your mind with infinite budget.

No movie in the world has been tailor made to your precise wants and needs than the movie in your mind. Therefore you will only find disappointments in a movie made by others.

Beautiful-Year54922026-01-19 14:11

Fair point and I agree expectations can ruin enjoyment. For me, theories like this are just a fun way to engage with the story before it’s told, not a checklist for the movie to follow. I’m totally fine if Marvel goes in a completely different direction, this is just speculation for discussion, not expectation.

Darpa1812026-01-19 14:14

Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who will do exactly that. Then they'll be grossly disappointed because it doesn't meet what they've set in their heads.

hesitantly-correct2026-01-19 15:52

I didn't learn this lesson with The Matrix Reloaded. I mostly learned this lesson with Star Wars 9.

Gorrium2026-01-19 14:11

They will allude to Namor/Sue, it won't be serious but it will be noticeable.

I don't like it but I think it's going to happen.

Beautiful-Year54922026-01-19 14:14

Yeah, I can see Marvel nodding to it as an Easter egg rather than making it a major plot point. The Namor–Sue dynamic works more as subtext in the comics anyway, so a light allusion makes sense without distracting from Doom or the larger Secret Wars stakes.

EdisonTheTurtle2026-01-19 15:19

They did a very subtle nod to Carol-Rhodey in endgame so this is happening for sure

Pheonyx19742026-01-19 16:02

Sorry, not happening, Rhodes was a Skrull by then.

ChaoticCaptain1772026-01-19 16:12

Yeah I'm thinking Namor will at least have respect for Sue

therealmonkyking2026-01-19 16:27

They'll for sure have a scene where he tries flirting but Sue will shut him down and that'll be the end of it. I actually wouldn't mind that, and I absolutely despise the dynamic in the comics.

Maximus3612026-01-19 14:20

The absolute wildest theory is to simply wait until the movie comes out and then watch it. 😲Speculating accomplishes exactly nothing. I love MCU movies, but I’ve never understood why people hype them up before hand. Creating preconceived expectations doesn’t change the actual movie. I even purposely avoid trailers if I can help it. I like to watch movies without any idea of what will happen.

Yqb131532026-01-19 14:26

Thought your response was awfully... Weird for just a fun post someone wants to make, had to check the history.

Was not disappointed, [oof](https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/s/ThMa7VWTyg)

Edit: [mega oof](https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/s/htwelGthvy)

Maximus3612026-01-19 14:46

Same with your “weird response”, but I didn’t have to go back 22 days like you did. One hour ago was enough. You actually proved the point of my comment you linked. Talk about self burn!😂

Edit: “oof” all you want to, but I’m 100% correct. Btw, how does this relate to the MCU?

Cynfreh2026-01-19 14:25

It's going to be a fun party it's Doom's day! We get to see all the presents people bring him and there's going to be a clown making balloon animals.

Beautiful-Year54922026-01-19 14:58

what?

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chaot72026-01-19 15:01

It starts with Doom having a really crumby day. A car splashes water on him as he crosses the street, he meets a cashier and says ‘DOOM demands your presence at Fiesta Zone Roller Rink this Thursday’ but she snubs him. He sighs and wipes a small tear. ‘At DOOM knows that DOOM’s DOOMBots will always love DOOM….’

He goes home and all the heroes jump out. No one called him because it was a surprise party

killbolaggins2026-01-19 15:03

I got more of a Babe 2: Pig in The City & Baby’s Day Out feel

DoomsdayThor2026-01-19 14:27

Thor actually kills Doom, but Doom immediately resurrects himself with Franklin and becomes unkillable

CharacterOld86912026-01-19 14:30

I would like to see Doom escape to Hell, and end up meeting Mephisto.

Beautiful-Year54922026-01-19 14:47

And we still are waiting for Mephisto😅

Beautiful-Year54922026-01-19 14:31

That tracks. Killing Doctor Doom is rarely the endgame—especially if Franklin Richards is involved. At that point it stops being a strength contest and becomes a reality-level stalemate, even for Thor.

evapotranspire2026-01-20 00:08

I would get flashbacks to Infinity War if that's how it plays out

Gorguf622026-01-19 14:30

It will begin and it will end.

Maximus3612026-01-19 15:36

Exactly! Why bother speculating with theories of what the movie will be about? It won’t change the content of the movie at all!🤷

JadedEggplant98312026-01-19 14:32

Doom is from the F4 universe, but he was confirmed ‘dead’ by Latveria for almost 20 years, after an experiment gone wrong (insert Doom’s comic backstory here)

In that time:
- he discovered the multiverse
- he discovered a decay in the multiverse
- plans to use incursions to break down the multiverse into its ‘essential parts’, reimagining the multiverse into one Battleworld, Latverion

anyone who attempts to stop him is met with the force of Doom
(he sends Doom-Bot Sentinels to the X-Men universe)

and Doom only takes Franklin to utilise his power cosmic

Beautiful-Year54922026-01-19 14:56

That wasn’t Doom’s bots or Sentinels on the X-Men planet. They were already at war long before. You can clearly see gunshot-type damage inside the X-Mansion, which suggests conventional weapons were used. As far as we know, Doctor Doom doesn’t rely on firearms—his tech and magic leave very different signatures. That detail alone points away from Doom being responsible.

JadedEggplant98312026-01-19 16:36

welp it’s just a theory

Shieldlegacyknight2026-01-19 14:34

Hawkeye will be the only original Avenger. We will see variants of the Avengers assemble to stop Doom but they will fail. Someone will tie.

Fawqueue2026-01-19 14:36

That the only thing remotely interesting will be seeing non-MCU characters from 26 years ago.

ItsMeBenedickArnold2026-01-19 14:49

Robert Downey Jr and Chris Evans will be playing multiverse versions of Ironman and Captain America on top of Doom and Cap.

Beautiful-Year54922026-01-19 14:52

yeah. yeah. but they will be killed in first 10 minutes.

rdp31862026-01-19 15:02

Doom is not a Stark variant nor actually looks like Stark.

He uses Franklin to give him the physical appearance of Stark so that he can trick and coerce people in other multi universes to do whatever his overall plan his.

His disguise will deteriorate over time and by the end of Secret Wars he will revert fully back to his disfigured form.

Thats why the creators are saying RDJ playing Doom is vital to the film. Its the simplest explanation without doing a lot of weird retconning. This also gives the opportunity to recast the role after secret wars without having to start the character over.

Tomaly2026-01-19 15:45

I really like this idea

DustyRhodesSplotch2026-01-19 15:16

Dr. Doom, realizing he in in tax trouble, has to find an expert in tax law. He scours the multi-verse where he finds She-Hulk Attorney at Law. He wins his case and has a Twerk off with Megan Thee Stallion .

prepjack2026-01-19 16:47

Dang, I was just about to post this!

PiperPeriwinkle2026-01-19 20:36

And the most important part, make sure to call anyone who doesnt want this a bigot.

Spicyytamale2026-01-19 15:30

We will see black suit spider-man and miles morales.

thainfamouzjay2026-01-19 15:38

I think he's going after all the kids. Steve rodgers son, love from thor, Franklin, baby panther, and one more(maybe wiccan?). I do think secret wars is gonna start with everyone in battleworld not remembering what happened and a team of young avengers wake everyone up one by one.

FerrusManlyManus2026-01-19 15:42

This is definitely a wild and poorly thought out theory. Like Marvel saw all of the Thor 4 Gorr backlash and they thought yeah, let’s have the bad guy be a babysitter of a bunch of children again!

speed_phreak2026-01-19 15:41

Doctor Doom toots as he pleases!

Pheonyx19742026-01-19 16:01

Tony was a variant of Doom, adopted by the Starks after the death of their firstborn. Tony was a stolen child but no one knew that.

MrxWalrhizonkey2026-01-19 16:06

My theory is that RDJ will only be DOOM for the first 90% of Doomsday, it'll turn out that DOOM used some power to change his appearance to that of Tony Stark to build trust with the Avengers and trick them. Then during the 3rd act DOOM will reveal what he actually looks like, and it'll be the actor who will be playing DOOM for the foreseeable future. This also clears the way for an actual Tony Stark variant to be in Secret Wars for the inevitable Avengers reunion.

No shot they're gonna make DOOM a 1 and done thing, he should be popping up through the next few phases. There is also no way theyre gonna pay RDJ to come back multiple times (yet). Dump trucks of money can only get so big.

FreebirdSST2026-01-19 16:10

RDJ will only be in the last two minutes of the movie (always leave them wanting more).

RaZkOL952026-01-19 16:20

It’s not a wild theory. Doom is a version of Tony Stark from a different dimension. Probably adopted which is why he has a different name. Same genius still. Builds his suits which gives him the powers still ( obviously looking Doom like, not Ironman…. Which is where we will get his Doom bots btw, like he did in Avengers age of ultron with the patrol bots ) and eventually iron man from a different multiverse will come back and help fight Doom. And then he will die fighting his twin. Kind of cathartic in a way. Iron Man sacrifices himself all the time and all that….In between all that we will get all these new characters brought in so they can spin off the next batch of MCU movies ( X-men, new avengers, etc….). The end. ( or I’m completely wrong and none of that will happen 😂)

ChaoticCaptain1772026-01-19 16:20

Doom will kill the council of kangs

therealmonkyking2026-01-19 16:30

We'll actually get an explanation for why the X-Men and Fantastic Four aren't native to the Sacred Timeline: He Who Remains specifically excluded the F4 because of Doom being too big a threat, and the X-Men because they were too difficult or powerful to control.

BehindTheGem2026-01-19 16:39

That would instantly raise Doom’s stakes. If even He Who Remains planned around him, that says everything about how dangerous he’s meant to be.

colderstates2026-01-19 16:44

The film is actually going to be fairly straightforward (the multiverse is collapsing, everyone is trying to stop this in their own way, Doom probably succeeds because he is more ruthless) and won’t involve

(i) Kangs

(ii) kidnapped children “that shouldn’t exist”

(iii) anchor beings

(iv) hidden codes in the teaser trailers; and

(v) any general scifi mumbo jumbo.

Captriker2026-01-19 16:49

The world will end at the end of the movie.

evapotranspire2026-01-20 00:09

Doom might not actually be a villain after all. In the comic storylines, Doom runs the gamut from "Unhinged cackling villain" to "Intelligent leader who wants the best for the world, though his methods are harsh." This movie could lean hard into the latter intepreretation of Doom.

Therefore, the plot might end up not being *Doom vs. the heroes*, but rather *Doom AND the heroes* vs. *the forces of nature* (the Multiverse collapsing). We, the viewers, may end up feeling admiration and empathy for Doom, because he may end up being right.

Ivotedforher2026-01-20 03:19

It will be Crisis on Infinite Earths but in the Marvel Universe.