F4 and Thunderbolts have consistently been in the Disney+ top 10 movies. Does that still mean that "nobody watched these movies"?

Marvel movies on the list:

**4. F4**

5. D&W

6. Across the Spiderverse

**7. Thunderbolts**

9. Endgame

Is Disney deceiving us or are these movies generally the most watched in the US at the moment? I hear a lot that "nobody watched Thunderbolts" for example. Seems like a contradiction.

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Joebranflakes2026-01-18 09:52

I’d say the caveat would be “No one watched Thunderbolts (In theatres).

Unique_Expression5742026-01-18 10:32

I did! In IMAX! It was rlly fun.

Theater was empty besides my group

reddit_hayden2026-01-18 10:33

i saw the standard version in cinemas but i wish i saw it in IMAX. i bet it was incredible.

BubblesZap2026-01-18 11:08

I saw it in IMAX for free for some reason so I'm not really helping I guess lol, but I talked about it online for them!!

Dragon_yum2026-01-18 11:44

Jfc… They didn’t mean it literally…

spidervenom6192026-01-18 11:13

I saw in theaters two time, the first was full so much that I had to go to a early morning screening of the film again on Saturday only to hear all of the lines of the film.

I truly believe that most of the people went for the first week and stop going afterwards.

Federal_Bicycle_78002026-01-18 14:01

no, people just didn't watch it. mcu reddit doesnt represent the general population's attitude towards the mcu, so just because you saw it and liked it doesnt meant everyone else was in the same boat

WallStreetWets2026-01-18 16:18

Saw it twice in theaters

CaptHayfever2026-01-18 18:57

It came *very* close to break-even, so clearly *somebody* watched it.

therealphilbo25302026-01-18 21:49

So that's what the asterisk meant

No-Communication30482026-01-19 04:38

I've seen Thunderbolts opening night, even got a keychain of Yelena

PickerPat2026-01-18 09:52

In cinemas, sure.

decitronal2026-01-18 09:54

The rhetoric that nobody watched Thunderbolts* and The First Steps mostly comes from their low box office return. I'd imagine they'll become a more consistent part of Disney+ charts as hype for Doomsday increases

PayneTrain1819992026-01-18 12:19

Also, the more people that don’t watch an MCU movie in theatres, the better that movie will do on Disney+ typically.

The Disney+ viewers were ones that said “I’m interested in seeing this but I’ll wait for streaming.”

bjwills72026-01-18 12:37

Exactly. People aren't as hyped to go to to the theaters as they used to be for marvel movies, doesn't mean they're not interested.

I just hope they market Doomsday well because Infinity War and End Game did so well because of the movies that came before them. Without that build up I'm not sure it'll get as much attention, hopefully Spider-Man does really well, that'll definitely help.

tacoorpizza2026-01-18 14:14

You could change that to “people aren’t as hyped to go to the theaters as they used to be for most movies” because after Covid there was a major decline in the domestic box office.

TelenorTheGNP2026-01-18 14:23

With the rise of streaming services, personal home theaters, piracy, and theater prices, it created a perfect environment for people to wait the short time it takes for the shift to digital and watch from home.

Not sure whom to blame, really. Did theaters get greedy? Or did they get pushed by licensing fees? I don't know how the whole thing works.

Sorge742026-01-18 16:28

I fully intended to go see fantastic four in the theaters, but we have a two now three year old and I don't know my wife wasn't very interested and it was a bother. Oh but guess what I know that it will be free for me to watch later.

Disney plus has definitely disincentivized me.

GreenGoblinNX2026-01-18 16:43

THeaters have been dying for years, even before COVID. The "theater experience" that so many directors and Hollywood-types hold up as being so integral is colored by the fact that they get private screenings and don't have to deal with loud annoying people, people on their phones during the whole movie, leftover messes from the last showing, etc.

AsaTJ2026-01-18 19:57

The funny thing is this doesn't really happen anymore because fewer people are going to the theater. Unless you go to like the Friday night opening of Star Wars or a Pixar movie, you won't have that experience. I tend to go on a weekday around noon (I have odd days off) to see stuff that's been out for a week or more and often have the entire theater to myself. It's great.

TelenorTheGNP2026-01-23 13:37

Late night viewings a week out of release are pretty good for it.

DJanomaly2026-01-18 22:22

People have been complaining about theater prices for at least 20 years. It’s hardly new. And most theater chains can’t turn a profit so it’s really hard to make a case that there being greedy.

People are just becoming less social and that’s the real draw of theaters. I just read an article that this is happening for sit down restaurants as well. People order their food from them for pickup and they’re slammed from the orders, but the seating areas are ghost towns

spidervenom6192026-01-18 22:27

A film nowadays cost almost 5 dollars just for the ticket alone. If you are buying snacks you are paying almost 15 to 20 dollars for a Solo ticket.

I'm sorry but unless it's characters that I personally cared about I would rather stay at home, Order my Pizza and watch the film for either for free or much more cheaper and then use Disney+ to watch another Old Marvel Film afterwards or a ESPN game then bug my 70 year Mother to drive me to a theater and pay 5 to 20 dollars only for a solo ticket.

suss2it2026-01-18 23:09

I get why you would think that but at the same time 4 movies in 2025 crossed $1 billion, I think the most since Covid. And if you ignore the actual box office return and just look at the placements, Marvel Studios released three movies this year none of which are in the top 10 which is a first for them in well over a decade. So people seem to specifically be less interested in Marvel.

Supermite2026-01-18 15:08

It’s not just marvel movies. Theaters are just expensive as hell to go to. I’m in Canada, a night out to the movies is pushing $100 for me and my partner. That doesn’t include lining up childcare of some kind. The experience has only gotten worse too.

bjwills72026-01-18 15:16

Wait what? I payed like 25$ for 2 people in late 2025.

Where do you live???

DJanomaly2026-01-18 22:26

They’re quoting Canadian prices. It’s not that expensive in the US.

Doompatron30002026-01-18 15:30

People in general aren’t hyped to go see any movie in theaters anymore, since they know the movie will be streaming soon anyways. At some point Disney is going to notice this and stop putting new movies on Disney+ for at least a year after its theatrical run.

Sorge742026-01-18 16:29

Time was, if you didn't see a movie in theaters, you had to wait 6-12 months to rent or buy. Now it's far faster and for free.

Nightwing_in_a_Flash2026-01-18 17:50

It’ll be interesting to see how long the wait is before Avatar 3 is on Disney+

Doompatron30002026-01-18 18:17

It’s going to be the same length of time. If it wasn’t they would’ve announced it by now.

I think getting more content on Disney+ has out weighed more money in theaters, because there’s no way Disney hasn’t thought about the negatives of getting a new movie on Disney+ by now.

BlueWaterXXX2026-01-18 15:46

You are right bro, i know doomsday and secret wars would bangers

BLAGTIER2026-01-18 14:15

> Also, the more people that don’t watch an MCU movie in theatres, the better that movie will do on Disney+ typically.

The opposite. The better a movie does in theatres the better the movie does in all secondary markets. Which is just logical because a popular well liked movie is going to be a popular well liked movie when it hits streaming.

100100wayt2026-01-18 20:29

So many replies to this thread (excluding you here) are speaking out of their asses its crazy

BlueWaterXXX2026-01-18 15:45

Marvel is doing great

littletoyboat2026-01-18 17:28

> the more people that don’t watch an MCU movie in theatres, the better that movie will do on Disney+ typically.
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That's literally the opposite of the truth. Success is ancillary markets is proportional to success in the first run market. The more popular it is in theaters, the more popular it is in downstream. It's been like this since movies first started airing on TV in the 50s and 60s.

Curiouso_Giorgio2026-01-18 19:22

Casual Disney+ subscribers "I'm already paying those fuckers every month, fuck paying again to see it at a cinema."

OliviaElevenDunham2026-01-19 01:29

That seems likely especially after COVID.

AnOnlineHandle2026-01-18 12:53

Additionally what new main things are even being released on Disney+ except Marvel movies and a few other things like Avatar which are up there? If you still have a sub it's presumably to watch those things specifically.

I watched them and thought they were unfortunately overhyped by some on here, and if anything they've lessened any interest in the MCU even further as a former huge fan. Thunderbolts was okay, sort of like a so-so Agents of Shield episode, but FF was a downright bad movie for multiple reasons IMO, and I have no interest in seeing more of these boring superhero dictators from a silly dimension whose story as a team was entirely skipped over to the point where it feels like they're basically in retirement already.

mega5122026-01-18 13:16

This is a topic about streaming, bro. Go read the articles. The claim FF4 is a streaming failure.

OaSoaD2026-01-18 13:21

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Federal_Bicycle_78002026-01-18 13:57

well for its budget yes, it barely broke even

OaSoaD2026-01-18 14:16

Yea it’s crazy

Smart_Crab84722026-01-18 15:02

depends on the budget

N8CCRG2026-01-18 14:48

And that "low box office return" is really just relevant to people still expecting every Marvel movie to have Endgame numbers. For 2025, the three MCU movies landed 8th (F4), 11th (Cap4) and 13th (TB) domestically, and all in the top 20 worldwide.

Hoslinhezl2026-01-18 23:42

No its incredibly relevent as long as budgets are out of control. No MCU film this year can be described as properly financially successful. The MCU will not survive on the biggest film of the year maybe making 50 mill profit

N8CCRG2026-01-18 23:52

1) Budgets aren't "out of control," people just aren't accounting for inflation when comparing. [After adjusting for inflation, these are the MCU budgets in July 2025 dollars](https://i.imgur.com/cCmTvzB.png) (Avengers movies are not included, as they're special). Notice the last four movies all coming in rather low, but all of the movies are comparable to each other.

2) Disney makes a lot more money than just the box office. Like, a lot a lot. They spent $650 million dollars on Andor, and $250 million on Alien:Earth, and who knows how much else for tons of other shows that never sell a single ticket. These movies obviously want to maximize their box office returns, but they make bank on VOD, and licensing, and deals with other streaming services, and merch, and theme park attractions, and god knows what else, and then tons of folks keeping their subscriptions to Disney+ as well.

abellapa2026-01-18 21:02

F4 made profit

barimanlhs2026-01-18 21:24

It also seems like movie going in general has been suppressed by streaming services. Like there havent been a ton of MUST SEE movies in theaters...

I know personally Ive waited the 3+ months to finally see a movie out of the convenience of it. This has definitely been the case since 2020

jfk_472026-01-18 22:27

F4 is such a great watch with the kids.

pudgybunnybry2026-01-19 02:47

Agree. My kids aren't "stans" for MCU as some folks suggest is the reason for these movies being on the list, but mine have watched FF4 multiple times because they just loved it. Same with the Guardians movies.

jfk_472026-01-19 10:00

Literally just watched guardians 2 and my kids loved it so much. My son wants to watch 3 but I think it’s a bit intense for a 10 year old, plus there’s a lot of stuff he needs to see that leads up to that.

GraySonOfGotham242026-01-18 22:51

I also think there's a growing portion of the audience (and this goes for all movies) that are content to just wait for streaming. Movies are so expensive that unless a movie is appointment viewing people are fine just waiting.

pizzaporker12026-01-19 00:59

A mix of not having much money, not willing to give much of the new characters a chance & being stuck on the old ones....and knowing these movies would go on Disney plus in x amount of weeks. Along with rught wing YouTube grifters...plus more but yeah.

mitteinai2026-01-19 04:38

Why do you say "THE first steps"? It's just "First Steps".

mcon962026-01-20 22:45

FWIW, First Steps actually had a solid box office performance by the end of its run. It wasn’t a smash hit like some were expecting, but it was definitely not a flop or anything like that. A lot of the reports form the middle of its run were (baselessly) assuming that its week-to-week drops would be the same exact percentage, even though that’s not how it typically works, so the projections you may have seen were overly pessimistic. I’m sure Marvel wanted it to do better, but a ~2.9x multiplier is still decent. It definitely did better than Thunderbolts and nowhere near the box office catastrophe of something like The Marvels.

Jenkes_of_Wolverton2026-01-18 09:55

I usually wait till the DVD is available, because my local Cineworld shut during COVID lockdown and never reopened.

CaptHayfever2026-01-18 19:00

That's a bummer. Do you know if anyone else is talking about opening a theater? What size of a town do you live in?

Rollin24152026-01-18 10:39

Sure more people have watched it since it’s gone on Disney + but Disney+ is not the “US”. What else are they competing with on the platform?

AsherthonX2026-01-18 10:50

If watched the FF in theater and once more on D+
It will probably take a while for me to watch it again. For some reason
I’ve seen Deadpool 1 3 times in cinema

icorrectpettydetails2026-01-18 10:52

The definition of 'nobody watched x' varies wildly depending on what narrative the person wants to push.

firedforthatblunder2026-01-18 11:27

When it comes to Thunderbolts, saying that nobody watched it is just an exaggeration of its poor box office performance. As in, nobody watched it _in theaters_.

There’s no narrative to be pushed, it being one of the lowest grossing MCU movies is quite literally a fact.

icorrectpettydetails2026-01-18 12:53

You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true. In this case you're defining 'nobody watched X' as being 'nobody watched X *in theatres*'. If someone wanted to push the idea that Movie X shouldn't get a sequel, for whatever reason of their own, they could take that fact and prove it. But, say Movie X was the number one most viewed movie on streaming ever (hypothetically) someone could use *that* literally fact to prove otherwise. Both arguments are based on completely true statements, but come to opposite conclusions.

kulitchipon2026-01-18 10:57

This might be a stupid question, but aside from subscription, how else would Disney profit from people constantly rewatching shows on D+?

MrCuddable2026-01-18 14:16

Ad revenue

Menessy272026-01-18 14:17

Ads

BLAGTIER2026-01-18 14:26

The subscription is how. If a subscriber finds their subscription is worth it they will keep it. Worth it being defined by things to watch. Rewatching something is probably less valuable to a person than a first watch but it still has value to people.

And kids are a special group as they tend to value rewatches more and more.

TotallyNotAMarvelSpy2026-01-18 17:02

Lets do napkin math for a second here.

131.6m people subscribe to D+, at a minimum cost of 11.99 a month. Just in subscribership alone, you're looking at $1,5778,840 if people are on the minimum tier, which we know that no everyone subscribes to the minimum but lets keep the math easy.

So Disney is clearing a 1.58bn a month plus ad revenue. Now we don't know what that value is, or if it's tiered for stuff like new releases vs old movies, or anything like that.

But we know that they're making about a Zootopia 2's box office every month, guaranteed.

131 million people watching stuff with ads is a metric fuck ton of revenue, even if the rate for the ads were paltry. This is *revenue* not profit, but Disney also did front-load the expenditure for D+ to get built, and their operating costs can't be that massive, so they're definitely making money hand over fist with D+.

naphomci2026-01-18 17:26

This is an ad tier on disney+. Additionally, merchandise. Another is getting people attached to the characters so that future movies do well (Moana 2 made ~60% more than the first one, and a large part of that was likely because the first is one of the most streamed movies)

eagc72026-01-18 21:43

Ad Tier, That's actually one of the reasons Streaming services are trying to make their prices very high, so you go to the one with ads since that's the tier that will actually let the services turn a profit

spidervenom6192026-01-18 11:14

For whatever reason streaming films don't count even though most people nowadays wait for it to come out on Streaming to watch them. This ain't like 2016 to 2019 in which theaters are pack and films nowadays cost a arm and leg to see.

Unoriginal_Pseudonym2026-01-18 14:59

The streaming services are usually tight-lipped on numbers for individual films. I'm assuming it has to do with how they negotiate rights for properties that they didn't produce.

k0fi962026-01-18 18:30

It probably has to do with the numbers not being that high. Netflix puts out numbers for their stuff because the numbers sound impressive.

Kalelisagod2026-01-18 15:18

I hate the theaters. Don’t go nearly as often as I did in 2010ish. People are loud, cell phones everywhere. Getting up and down all movie. I have a nice Tv and sound system. I have a pause button. I can wait for it to release now and be far happier. So yeah I get this

usernaame0012026-01-18 11:34

I think also because Disney+ just doesnt have many movies. The library isn't as big as Netflix's.

CaptHayfever2026-01-18 19:01

...They have Disney's & Fox's entire back catalogs.

Endgam2026-01-19 00:07

Not as many, but has more movies that people actually care about.

Netflix keeps on losing everything. They just lost a LOT of bigger movies at the end of the year.

TheKocsis2026-01-18 12:09

It mostly tells me how thin the D+ catalogue is

BlargerJarger2026-01-18 12:17

These are the movies people watch multiple times.

RvD0002026-01-18 12:19

I can only find the 'Top 10 in Germany Today', which includes movies and series, and the only Marvel movie in there is Spider-Man No Way Home

1. Tron Ares
2. Percy Jackson (series)
3. Avatar - The Way of Water
4. Avatar
5. Tell Me Lies (series)
6. Inside Out 2
7. Pole to Pole (series)
8. Spider-Man No Way Home
9. Count of Monte Christo (series)
10. Ratatouille

So maybe the movies are doing pretty well in the US, but it does not seem to be the case everywhere.

mitvh23112026-01-18 13:23

Australia only has F4 FS at 6. No other Marvel in there

BLAGTIER2026-01-18 14:28

With the except of big releases the regional top 10s tend to be fairly different.

mitvh23112026-01-18 14:29

It's interesting how it works regionally and seeing the differences. Like RIO from 2011 is 8th

Th35h4d0w2026-01-19 05:53

All right, another Percy Jackson W!

Stormik2026-01-19 08:33

Tron Ares and Percy Jackson show top 2? Yikes. I guess it does make sense.

Gotta love the random Ratatouille though.

Terflog2026-01-18 12:32

I just dont even trust those top 10 watched pages of streaming sites

firedforthatblunder2026-01-18 12:47

Yeah, I don’t know why people give any merit to these kind of things. Disney controls it and can put whatever they want in there to get more eyes on it.

Terflog2026-01-18 12:49

Netflix randomly pushing boliwood films into the list really got me skeptical actually

Upper-Major88542026-01-18 13:13

You do realise India is the most populated country in the world, which will naturally make perfect sense why Indian movies are the most watched.

Terflog2026-01-18 13:13

They definitely pick and choose when to include regions in their top picks.

Dino_Spaceman2026-01-18 12:32

I would also remember that we have zero idea the metrics behind this list. It is a safe bet it is not strict viewer count but a mix of multiple metrics. Including promotional spots dedicated to their current top marketed movie.

Note they very specifically do not say “most watched”. Just “top”.

Not saying it isn’t incredibly popular. Just that this list can’t be taken as a literal view count metric.

k0fi962026-01-18 18:29

Yeah people don't understand this at all. Just because something is in the top 10 doesn't mean a ton of people watched it. If the raw numbers were impressive they would use that. They are intentionally obfuscating how popular something is. Box office and DVD sales provided concrete numbers about how popular something is. Now every studio can say their movie is number 1 on streaming and nobody can verify that claim.

AmaterasuWolf212026-01-18 12:43

This sounds as butthurt

Low_Interview_57692026-01-18 12:46

When it comes to blockbusters, streaming has never been the barometer though.

Ragnarok_6192026-01-18 13:00

Wasn't there a pretty accurate report that Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four debuted to record low numbers in Streaming?

Showing this is like that scene in The Dictator where Aladeen won against everyone by shooting them

NinetyYears2026-01-18 18:07

Maybe translate for those who haven't seen the dictator.

Ragnarok_6192026-01-18 18:14

I said it in my parent comment itself. But here's the [youtube link](https://youtube.com/watch?v=7C-aB09i30E&t=0m21s)

matty_nice2026-01-18 18:38

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/movies/articles/fantastic-four-records-worst-disney-091802837.html

Fantastic Four Records Worst Disney+ Debut in MCU History

Ragnarok_6192026-01-18 18:42

Thank you. The dictator analogy was apt

mega5122026-01-18 13:15

Ratings people think it millions aren't watching as soon as it's released then it's a failure. There is so much to stream now that sometimes it takes me years to get to things.

N8CCRG2026-01-18 13:58

I'm surprised Deadpool & Wolverine is so high. I've found it to be the least rewatchable movie. Once you know all of the cameos and similar fan service surprises, there's not much else to it.

BLAGTIER2026-01-18 14:29

> I'm surprised Deadpool & Wolverine is so high.

You shouldn't be. It is a very popular movie.

CaptHayfever2026-01-18 19:06

Wade & Logan have interesting emotional journeys, & the action pieces are fun.

AccomplishedWonder12026-01-18 14:11

Impressive to see & both deserve the love

sector113742652026-01-18 14:18

unrelated, but hype as hell to see Pirates up there after all these years. I recently rewatched the first three movies and they’re metal as hell.

blodyn__tatws2026-01-18 14:22

Yeah, it's a little harsh to base everything on box office returns. A lot of people prefer to watch at home because of audio levels and not having to deal with other people ruining the experience by talking or being on their phones.

AnonymousFriend802026-01-18 14:44

Maybe you don't know how words work ...

You could be the #1 most viewed thing ever and still have abysmal viewership if all the numbers are low.

To go along with that, you can have extremely high viewership and still be considered to have a disappointing viewership if the projected viewership was much higher.

Smkingbowls2026-01-18 15:04

This dumb, "look at all these Disney movies in Disney's own top ten list"

Jimmy2tx2026-01-18 15:17

These top tens are BS… basically whatever the company needs to advertise or sell.

Ffs we are all fked

NinetyYears2026-01-18 18:08

It's going to be okay bro.

BlueWaterXXX2026-01-18 15:44

Marvel isn't dead

alenpetak112026-01-18 16:51

Marvel is Doomed rn.

Whirblewind2026-01-18 16:42

If you have a point, don't kneecap it with a strawman.

SetonAlandel2026-01-18 16:57

Honestly? I kind of expect the algorithm for these dynamic displays to be weighted a bit. Maybe I'm just jaded from so much targeted advertising though.

RebirthGhost2026-01-18 17:13

I am not contradicting your intent but do you really expect us to believe that TRON ARES is the #1 movie in Disney+?

NinetyYears2026-01-18 17:56

Not too much of a stretch since the movie was newly added not long ago I imagine.

How long it stays there is the question.

CaptHayfever2026-01-18 19:04

It just hit streaming a week & a half ago.

Endgam2026-01-19 00:10

*Morbius* was in the top 10 movies on Netflix as soon as it came out just because people wanted to see if it really was that bad.

So why wouldn't a highly promoted newly added movie *with the same actor* not have people watching it at first?

Powerofx12026-01-18 17:41

Crazy how the three movies that set Doomsday are in the top 10 for a while

alex4942026-01-18 18:11

They probably mean "in cinemas" specifically.

CaptHayfever2026-01-18 19:04

I've personally seen people say "on streaming".

Fart_BWAP2026-01-18 18:23

Yes.

NinetyYears2026-01-18 18:45

Thanks Fart. Looks like people are watching these movies after all.

Fart_BWAP2026-01-18 18:49

I can’t believe anyone saw these giant quarter-of-a-billion-dollar movies widely released by the world’s biggest entertainment company.

Brees5042026-01-18 18:56

Being among the most watched movies in a list of otherwise old movies doesn’t actually tell you anything about how well they are doing

The_Reddit_Guy_22026-01-18 19:33

Spider-Verse on Disney???

Senators_19922026-01-18 19:45

It could also be something as simple as Disney not having released any other films to streaming in a while, meaning those existing films are going to remain in those positions until something comes along to bump them off the chart.

ExultantSandwich2026-01-18 19:56

No, now we can just say that no one paid actual money to see those movies, they waited for Disney+

Pleasant_Night_6522026-01-18 20:06

I honestly think that a lot of movies failing at the box office is also due to people waiting for them to be released on D+

Goliath_TL2026-01-18 20:33

Notice, that lost doesn't say, Most Watched' but rather "Top Ten."

Top Ten of what kind of list. No idea, but those 10 are at the top.

Is the assumption that it's Top 10 Most Watched? Sure. But that doesn't mean it is.

Mr_CoCoNutss2026-01-18 20:39

That includes PVOD and DVDS. Thing is if you saw and like a Disney movie you have a subscription yet for some of these movies they had the top ten in dvd sales as well. All those movies even flops like The Marvels made money in thr long run.

ChrundleMcDonald2026-01-18 20:47

I'm not saying that "nobody has watched" those movies, but you don't think that the "Top Movies" are actually the ones the most people are watching, do you? These streaming services just pick whatever movies they want to encourage you to watch

beatrailblazer2026-01-18 20:56

No, it means that kids and MCU stans just watch them on repeat

jonny5isalive12026-01-18 21:12

I didn’t watch thunderbolts until it came on Disney+ and I loved it. Wish I would’ve seen it on the big screen.

havewelost63882026-01-18 21:26

Unfortunately not *enough* people watched in the theatre for them to make a profit, because they both cost too damn much to make.

turkeygiant2026-01-18 22:01

While I think its hard to see it as a bad thing that they seem to have been streamed a lot, I do think there are situations where studios overemphasize the impact of streaming views and fans fall for the company line. First of all streaming views in general just dont make that much money these days, the per view profit of ads is not what it once was. I'd also note that every subscription platform needs to make the distinction between high quality and low quality views. You are getting high quality views if something is driving people to subscribe to your service or keeping them locked in to their subscription vs. low quality views where people are just watching something because it is there and they said "why not I guess?". I think a great example of a low quality view would be something like the Rock feature Red One over on Prime, sure it got 50 million views, but I would venture to guess that a very small number of those viewers subscribed to Prime just to see it, or considered it a factor when appraising the value/quality of that sub vs others. If they are like me they slapped it on just because it was there and they thought "eh why not, how bad could it be?".

Victoria_Crow2026-01-18 22:02

I just think folks don't go to the movies as much anymore post pandemic. There really isn't any movie that is going to make those numbers anymore.

aravena2026-01-18 23:52

Finally watched F4 and it was way better than I thought it was going to be. Ben's voice is meh and I cannot get behind Pedro as Reed but going with it, everything else was solid.

Automatic-Heart49602026-01-19 03:47

I watched Thunderbolts and loved it.

Ralph--Hinkley2026-01-19 04:37

I missed it in the movies, and I'm kicking myself for it. Best MCU movie of last year. I've watched it probably six more times since it's been on D+.

Automatic-Heart49602026-01-19 04:49

I saw it in the theater. It was the first movie I’ve seen in a long time.
I bought the Blu-ray set as well.
It’s just such a great movie. One of my top MCU favorites for sure.

Shantotto112026-01-19 05:19

It means Disney+ is ass and all of their movies aren’t being watched. /semi-sarcasm

Secksualinnuendo2026-01-19 08:13

It's not that no one watched them, it's that no one watched them in the theaters. Studios not seeing the direct payoff of box office numbers makes it harder to justify spending hundreds of millions on production and marketing.