why is marvel allergic to giving characters their main rival

like for example:

no iron man vs mandarin, and now the character with the most depth doesn’t have a single good villain

shitty thor vs malakith, and they fuck up gorr the god butcher super bad

i’ll give credit for cap vs red skull, but then they fuck up with zemo big time and in the process butchered civil war

no hulk vs red hulk or hulk vs leader and they give both those guys to sam wilson cap

they kill off t’challa so we don’t get the real black panther vs namor

hank pym is sidelined to an old guy so we don’t get nothing of him and ultron

doctor strange doesn’t get to duke it out with nightmare

even for captain marvel they waste the skrulls for possibly the worst marvel project since fant4stic

doomsday isn’t shaping up to be reed vs doom from what i’m hearing but ill wait for the movie to see

hell shang chi doesn’t even fight fu manchu

the closest thing we get to a good rivalry is spider-man vs goblin but even then it’s a goblin from another universe that belongs to a better spider-man from 20 years ago

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rubyschnees2026-01-17 19:05

comic fans in the mcu are the *worst*

Son_Tenaj2026-01-17 19:08

So people that read the source material are the worst for wanting what happens in the source material?? Lmao casual fans are the *worst*

Legal-Start94832026-01-17 19:13

You want movies to have the same vilain everytime knowing there's so many characters to introduce? Let's not forget the hundred millions to produce those movies... So yeah, we want creativity

TreyAdell2026-01-17 19:16

I mean but it’s like making Batman movies and not at some point getting to the Joker. Yea he’s got so many great villains but the audience wants to see The Joker lol.

Legal-Start94832026-01-17 19:21

Personnaly, If were a DC fan, I would prefer to get som diversity

TreyAdell2026-01-17 19:22

Maybe, but lots and lots of people simply just love seeing The joker

theunusualblackguy2026-01-17 19:21

my guy it’s a film franchise based off the most popular comic book company of all time

what the hell are you talking about

ybtlamlliw2026-01-17 19:08

Lol

sgtmajorcool2026-01-17 19:09

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I beg to differ on fucking up Zemo…

theunusualblackguy2026-01-17 19:20

a joke compared to comic zemo or earth’s mightiest heroes

BluegrassGeek2026-01-17 19:10

>they kill off t’challa

... seriously?

Jermz123452026-01-17 19:14

I love Chadwick Boseman as much as everyone, but it’s not necessary to kill off the character as well, despite the difficulty in finding an actor to live up to his performance

Christopher_Home2026-01-17 19:15

I think he means rather than recast, but yah, it just comes off as awful.

unplugged892026-01-17 19:12

This is the worst take I’ve seen on this sub.

dubs5422026-01-17 19:13

"They kill off T'challa" my guy, he DIED IRL and told next to no one about his condition. Tf were they supposed to do lol

theunusualblackguy2026-01-17 19:19

recast him, t’challa is too important of a character to just kill off even if chad died god rest his soul

chadwicks wishes from his family was for the character to be recast anyways

FerrusManlyManus2026-01-17 19:15

This post is pretty stank but there is some truth in here.

Every so often I ponder how much better Strange 2 would have been with the original director, Nightmare, and Wanda not being a villain at the start.

PraiseRao2026-01-17 19:15

Mandarin is very racist steroytype and at the time they were sucking the dick of china hard. There is even an extra scene in that movie that only Chinese theaters got. So they had to change him.

Zemo is one of the best adaptions he isn't one note villain like the comics. They leave a lot open for his return. They also have used him in other things. Zemo has the largest impact on the MCU as he splintered the Avengers which caused them to fight a war on multiple fronts against Thanos and lost.

Hulk has legal issues. So they use Hulk characters where they can. Was Cap 4 good no. Did it blunder Red Hulk yes but it's understandable because they can't do a standalone hulk.

They killed T'challa off because Chadwick died. Shuri also black panther in the comics but I mean you know comics right. As much as I would love Namor vs T'challa the reality is they had to make a decision one I do not agree with but they went with it and no recast.

Eh as much as an Ant-man fan I'm actually am and disappointed this happened it didn't hurt shit.

No arguments there they fucked the Skrulls.

We don't know yet and Doom is everyones villain in Secret Wars that is straight from the comics it's a united front that yes Reed in the end is the one to set things right which is probably going to happen anyway as Reed has to be set up as one of the central heroes going forward.

Marvel doesn't own the rights to Fu Manchu. Also very racist steroytype.

theunusualblackguy2026-01-17 19:25

for shang chi they just substituted a racist stereotype for another racist stereotype

the-National-Razor2026-01-17 19:16

Dr Strange faught Dormammu and defeate5 d him in the coolest final battle (imo). Dr. Strange, first movie, fights Dormammu and strikes an accord to save earth. What else do you seriously want from the first strange movie

Everything about this post is just awful.

LeopardComfortable992026-01-17 19:18

I do agree it's actually absurd the way the MCU has treated villains, they see that killing off villains to be the only real way to actually conclude the story of a movie. You don't have to kill them to be rid of them. Obadiah Stane could have been stopped and sent to prison. Malekith could have been somehow stopped and trapped in his own realm, given his characteristic scar at the conclusion of Dark World, with a potential build up for another future clash, further justification for his revenge being added.

Cancer technically killed off the real T'Challa, not the MCU. Doc Strange has only had two movies, so there's still time yet.