why can’t marvel give us any good solo movies

the last one that was universally praised was black panther 8 years ago, now shang chi and wakanda forever was solid but both those movies do get hate, im talking about where the general consensus is that the movie is good

and also when i mean solo movies i mean like solo, no teams so gotg 3, thunderbolts\* or f4 don’t count, and no team ups so none of the spider-mans count and neither does deadpool & wolverine

it feels like marvel is so focused on the big crossover events rather than the solo stories that people revisit more

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firedforthatblunder2026-01-17 18:50

>it feels like marvel is so focused on the big crossover events

After multiple flops and their first outright bomb, Marvel (Disney) is focused on making money.

The big crossover events make money.

dpittnet2026-01-17 18:51

The general consensus is that Shang-Chi is good

clothy2026-01-17 18:52

It was okay. Not as memorable as a lot of what came before though.

suhhdude452026-01-17 18:53

Shang-Chi was a lot better than a lot of solo projects that came before it.

liambell16062026-01-17 19:04

I had zero hype or enthusiasm when going to the cinema to watch Shang-Chi. I went with my daughter because that’s what we do- go watch new Marvel films on opening night- and it felt wrong to choose to miss one.

I think it’s my favourite solo film.

suhhdude452026-01-17 19:09

It’s so good. The story and cinematography were great.

theunusualblackguy2026-01-17 19:14

but majority people only call it good because all the other shit is garbage, me personally i think it’s good

Segwaye2026-01-17 18:51

I feel you

On the crossover thing, I think we are too late. There is not enough time in a year (or phase) to get all the recurring characters into projects while doing mostly solo stuff.

Also, I don’t think I’ve seen hate on Shang-Chi. Maybe the final kaiju fight. But after seeing the movie like 5 times I’ve learned to love it haha

Kronman5902026-01-17 18:51

Why do you care so much about other opinions

Shangchi was *good* full stop

KaraBowdit2026-01-17 18:52

I’ve assumed it’s a lack of confidence in a lot of the new characters. As I am always saying, Shang-Chi could have been another Cap or Thor is they just backed him like they did the chrises.

suhhdude452026-01-17 18:53

Lucky for you, Spider-Man: Brand New Day is gonna likely be a solo film this year

Operator_Starlight2026-01-17 18:59

It features Punisher, Hulk, Yelena, and Sadie Sink in a mystery role. But sure...solo.

suhhdude452026-01-17 19:01

Forgot about those lol Sadie Sink as a mystery role doesn’t tip the scale imo.

theunusualblackguy2026-01-17 19:12

if she’s potentially jean grey then yes it does, it does majorly

suhhdude452026-01-17 19:30

That’s a big IF

BasedAustralhungary2026-01-17 18:53

"Hey Fred, gimme a Marvel Studios Movie"

"A movie?"

"And hold the team of heroes"

"Hold the teams?"

"And hold secondary characters"

"Hold the secondary characters? Hey Kevin, gimme a Marvel Studios movie with nuthin"

Nawzays_2026-01-17 18:53

I dont think anyone was hating on shangchi.. if there are hate it's the minority, which is normal

Buhos_En_Pantelones2026-01-17 18:55

I dig what you're saying, but what exactly are you looking for? By standalone movie do you just mean a film that doesn't need to be viewed in a broader context? That's not 100% what you're going to get from this franchise.

Sylar_Lives2026-01-17 18:57

I’ve personally enjoyed them all. These are big budget b movies at best and should be viewed through that standard.

Caciulacdlac2026-01-17 18:58

Why Spider-Man movies don't count, but Black Panther: Wakanda Forever does?

theunusualblackguy2026-01-17 19:10

because wakanda forever doesn’t feature any other major superhero characters and instead is predominately the black panther and it’s cast of characters

meanwhile the spider-man trilogy features iron man, nick fury and maria hill, doctor strange, 2 spider-men from different franchises, and now brand new day is gonne have hulk, punisher, yelena, and sadie sink as a mutant potentially being jean grey

RoyalCod32026-01-17 18:58

Why can't the group of hateful fans stop hating, create bandwagoning between each other and criticise every single thing that is different than the old superheroes?

You want MCU to continue, you have to expect different and new characteristics, attitudes and powers of future superheroes.

theunusualblackguy2026-01-17 19:13

my guy i never said nothing of that, simply said i want good solo stories instead of it always being nostalgia crossover hype train stuff thats good

Knautical_J2026-01-17 18:59

It’s hard to introduce a new character who’s going to immediately plug and play into the bigger picture.

rubyschnees2026-01-17 18:59

> the last one that was universally praised

nothing is universally praised, ever

also if you need other people to praise something for you to enjoy it, then you've got bigger problems

theunusualblackguy2026-01-17 19:11

im not saying that, i love shang chi and wakanda forever, i simply said marvel should give us good solo movies again

max10012026-01-17 19:01

Shang chi got hate?

GenGaara252026-01-17 19:18

By your strict definition, we've only had six solo films since Black Panther.

* Captain Marvel
* Black Widow
* Shang-Chi
* Doctor Strange 2
* Thor 4
* Cap 4

Of which I'd say two were panned (Thor 4 and Cap 4), 2 were met with mediocre reviews (Cap Marvel and Black Widow), and 2 were received fairly well (Shang-Chi and Doc Strange 2).

Seems about the same hit rate as pre Black Panther.

theunusualblackguy2026-01-17 19:27

i probably should’ve mentioned that this has been a problem since they started in 2008

Gorguf622026-01-17 19:22

If you have to give a very narrow definition of a solo movie to try and make a point, your point is probably wrong.

matty_nice2026-01-17 19:22

It's gonna be interesting to see what their strategy is post SW when it comes to solo movies featuring new characters. We can safely assume we will continue to get sequels of popular characters like Captain America, Thor, Dr Strange, etc. And we will get the team movies like Avengers, X-Men, Midnight Sons.

But what are they gonna do for new solo movies? Who are the possible options? We've heard of Blade, but that movie has had a lot of problems and I think it's best to just put him in a Midnight Sons film. Wolverine seems a given.

I don't see a lot of other options. They used the D+ shows to introduce a few solo characters, but that didn't work. Nova would make sense as a solo film, but they apparently want that to be a tv show.

Just seems likt a bad situation.