First time watching Xmen films to prepare for doomsday?

So, I just finished watching Xmen, X2, and Xmen final stand. I've actually seen Origins before, but I'm going to give it a rewatch.

After rewatching the xmen teaser, when do the sentinels come into play? i thought they would've been in the original trilogy.

So my to watch list now is:

Xmen first class

The wolverine

Xmen days of future past

xmen apocalypse

Logan (I've seen this one)

Dark Phoenix

And I guess rewatch deadpool movies to catch references I didn't understand

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RedHeadedSicilian522026-01-14 16:36

If the movie _requires_ you to have seen all these, then Marvel has a big problem.

CoolProfessor4492026-01-14 16:39

My friend told me I should watch them.

I've literally never seen the xmen trilogy, and I have to say I enjoyed them

FictionFantom2026-01-14 16:52

People overstate how important it is to watch *everything* in order to understand the MCU.

If it’s important to the plot, these movies *always* do some kind of recap through dialogue, flashback, etc.

joran2132026-01-14 18:20

>If it’s important to the plot, these movies *always* do some kind of recap through dialogue, flashback, etc.

Not always. I went to see deadpool and wolverine with a friend that had never seen the xmen films (he did see deadpool 1 & 2 tho). He did not understand a lot of the things that where going on. E.g. during their final confrontation with cassandra nova in the void, they where trying to talk her down by talking about charles and how much he would care for her. It was a rather important and emotional story beat, but my friend literally just asked "who tf is charles?"

suhhdude452026-01-14 16:40

It doesn’t require you, but if you want to know every bit of the backstory of the X-Men then it’s probably not a bad idea to have watched them.

I_AM_CR0W2026-01-14 17:21

It's not a requirement as the X-Men in Doomsday are a variant that we've never seen before, but it'll help with understanding why the actors were reused and to understand any past references they might mention.

Altego19992026-01-14 16:42

If you are watching it *only* to prepare for Doomsday then save your time.

The X-Men timeline has become so weird since 2017 that it is confusing.

Charles returns in Dr. Strange 2 (2022) despite *dying* in Logan (2017) and retiring from the X:Men in Dark PhoeniX (2019, based in 1992).

Deadpool and Wolverine takes place in 2024 (revised X-Men timeline) despite that being 5 years *before* Logan takes place so the OG Logan is technically *still alive* .

Academic_Composer9042026-01-14 17:24

The version of Charles in Dr Strange 2(2022) is not the same Charles as in Logan (2017) or Dark Phoenix (2019). That scene in Doctor Strange happens in a completely different universe than the other X-Men movies.

Altego19992026-01-14 18:10

Exactly, that's why it is pointless to watch the X-Men universe *solely* to prepare for Doomsday.

Most likely, the X-Men we see in Doomsday will be completely different from the X-Men we have seen since 2000 or *even* 2014.

You can watch Doomsday *without* watching a *single* X-Men film. That's my point.

ItsYaBoyBackAgain2026-01-14 18:43

You can but I'd still advise people to watch them to at least appreciate the characters and actors that play them. The actors reprising their roles will also more than likely be playing the same version we've seen on screen from one of the timelines.

Academic_Composer9042026-01-15 10:03

Dude, you seem really aggressive about this. It’s not “pointless” if they desire to have an understanding of the characters, even if we don’t know for sure, exactly what universe they are coming from. Watching the older movies will give the viewer a better understanding of what they’re watching in the upcoming films.

Obviously, you’re going to be able to watch Doomsday without seeing any of the X-Men films, but it’s more than likely that the more knowledge you have of the background films, the more enjoyment you’re going to get out of the upcoming films that reference or incorporate those older movies/characters.

I’m not a comic book person, and although I enjoy all of the Marvel media immensely, it’s obvious to me that there are things I miss or don’t get the full impact of because I’ve never read the comics. One of the reasons I enjoy sites like Reddit is because there’s plenty of people to explain things I’m missing or introduce me to comic runs I might want to check out just so I have a better background knowledge going in. The comics aren’t absolutely necessary to my enjoyment of the film, but they definitely enhance it, and I’m always glad when I have a broader knowledge like OP is looking for

Caciulacdlac2026-01-14 16:47

Don't need to watch Dark Phoenix

Altego19992026-01-14 18:07

Tell that to OP

NazzerDawk2026-01-14 20:50

...isn't that what they just did?

GoodDawgAug2026-01-15 01:06

Why? Not relevant? I feel like any obscure connection could be made in Doomsday. I haven’t seen it either, is it just terrible?

Chase_Analyst2026-01-14 16:49

They’re good films, and I doubt they’ll be required viewing - if you’re interested in the history and the original character before getting older then it’s definitely worth watching

CoolProfessor4492026-01-14 16:54

Yeah.

I genuinely felt sad when professor x died in last stand. I also had no idea mystique and night crawler existed. Felt like I learned alot watching the trilogy.

Altego19992026-01-14 18:13

Professor X was resurrected in the same movie when his sub-conscious took over his twin's body.

Also, I am happy you learned a lot......but it is completely unnecessary to watch the X-Men movies to prepare for Doomsday. Because it is most likely that the X-Men we see in Doomsday will be different from the X-Men we have seen since 2000 or even 2015.

DragonzordR2026-01-14 16:49

We don't know which X-Men universe will be in Doomsday. Could be one of the Fox versions or a completely new one with the same actors, like the Wolverine in D&W.

But if you want to know, the Sentinels are only important in DoFP. You can skip Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix if you want, as DoFP is something like "the true ending" of the FoX-Men, and those two movies are just extra stories with no relevance (and not very good if you ask me).

CoolProfessor4492026-01-14 16:52

Gotcha.

I heard it gets confusing. For example is Logan in Logan the same Logan from the OG trilogy or the rebooted universe days of future past for example

DragonzordR2026-01-14 17:01

Originally, Logan was officially an alternate timeline (according to some Marvel encyclopedia with every universe listed) although the director, James Mangold, said it was the same universe of DoFP.

But with D&W they decided to merge all FoX-Men universes into one for simplicity, even if a lot of things don't make any sense. So right now, until they change their minds again, the best thing you can do is to not care at all about inconsistencies between movies.

Academic_Composer9042026-01-15 10:09

I don’t know what you think you watched, but they did not “merge all the Fox X-men universes into one for simplicity“. They set much of the DP&W in the Void which allowed them to have characters from different media/timeline/universes interact, but none of that, other than the survival of Deadpool and Wolverine, impacts any other universe/timeline. It was all just extra-universal fun that will have minimal impact in the long-term other than making Hugh Jackman play Wolverine for eternity.

DragonzordR2026-01-15 13:52

You misunderstood me. I didn't mean they merged the universes in the plot of the movie, but IRL the writers did. Like I said, for example, the Logan movie was previously an alternate universe (Earth-17315), but in D&W they said it happened in Earth-10005 with all the others FoX-Men movies. So Logan originally didn't happen in the same timeline of DoFP, but it does right now.

metalmankam2026-01-14 20:23

No they confirmed it's earth 10005 where Monica ended up that's why they got the whole original cast. X-Men was the first marvel film Kevin Feige worked on so they're bringing it full circle.

moonknightcrawler2026-01-14 16:50

You’re welcome to watch them all, I watch bad movies on purpose all the time, but Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix are incredibly unnecessary if you’re just wanting context for the movie. First Class will introduce you to the main players from the younger timeline, and Days of Future Past will give you both sets of actors.

The other two are just the last gasping breaths of a dying universe

Ok-Bake-35172026-01-14 16:59

Sentinels only come in play in days of future past other then that they are never a threat in any before or after that movie. Which is crazy that they only used them once and no the danger room dont count

I_AM_CR0W2026-01-14 17:23

The Sentinels are really only in Days of Future Past. The original trilogy, First Class, and DoFP are likely the only titles you'll need to watch for Doomsday. As far as we know, the X-Men in Doomsday will be a completely new version we've never seen before outside of the old actors reprising their roles.

Meizas2026-01-14 17:30

Watch them in whatever order you want. They reset the timeline four thousand times and it makes no sense anyway. 😂 JK, watch in release order. You're in for a treat - these are what got me into Marvel. Obviously some are older, but they're awesome and iconic.

anonymous_meatbag2026-01-14 17:48

You got the watch order right. The timelines are inconsistent and confusing but they’re all pretty good movies IMHO

skhan172026-01-14 17:55

Tbh X-men: Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix ruin the continuity. So does X-men: Origins Wolverine. I recommend skipping all 3. You can watch Apocalypse if you really want but I don't recommend.
Haven't seen new Mutants yet.

ItsAProdigalReturn2026-01-14 17:57

I actually think flipping TW and FC is a better watch. The Wolverine comes pretty quickly after TLS, but there's a big time jump between it and DOFP. Inversely, the time jump from FC to the past stuff in DOFP is a lot less.

I'd also flip Logan and Dark Phoenix. Logan works really well as a coda to all of the Fox X-Men films. If you plan to watch Deadpool 1 & 2, I'd watch those before Logan too. D&P comes after Logan.

EDIT - You're technically missing New Mutants but that movie straight up has no recurring characters and it barely got a release. I'd skip that one.

Petrichor022026-01-14 18:01

If you want to watch them all, you just need to add in The New Mutants to your watch order. Either before Logan (timeline order) or after Dark Phoenix (release order).

Also when you're watching the Deadpool movies, make sure you do Origins first (if you're committed to rewatching it) then Deadpool then Logan and then Deadpool 2 since the original Deadpool makes several jokes at the expense of Origins, and Deadpool 2 jokes about/references/spoils the events of Logan a good bit.

Also, I disagree with the other commenters in the thread saying to skip Apocalypse. It solves the Cerebro plot hole that First Class created (where we're told that Magneto knows how Cerebro works because he helped build it), and is one of the best movies as far as the X-Men working as a team rather than just one or two of the mutants getting the spotlight is concerned. Yes, it does have its flaws; it has a little bit of tonal whiplash in one particular scene, its version of Apocalypse is disappointing if you're familiar with the character from the comics or cartoons, and it redoes some of Magneto's arc from previous movies, but it's my favorite in the franchise, and I find all of those faults pretty forgiveable. It also concludes Days of Future Past's post-credit scene and acts as a full conclusion to the prequel era characters (with Days of Future Past acting as a full conclusion to the main era characters).

I do agree with the commenters who say you can skip Dark Phoenix without missing anything unless you just want to be a completionist and watch it all. The New Mutants, while more enjoyable than Dark Phoenix, IMO, also falls into this boat.

crimsonf1sh2026-01-14 18:08

I would watch The Wolverine next since it jumps right off of Last Stand, then First Class right before Days of Future Past since Days of Future Past is a sequel to First Class more than it is to The Wolverine.

On a more extreme note, I’d skip Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix entirely.

crimsonf1sh2026-01-14 18:09

Also, to answer your question — the Sentinels are just in Days of Future Past (but FYI their design is a bit different than what you glimpsed in the Doomsday trailer).

pje11282026-01-14 18:31

The Sentinels come into play in Days of Future Past, which will also probably be where Doomsday picks up from if I had to guess.

Enjoy the series! It's very good overall. Even the ones that are typically regarded poorly (like Origins, Apocalypse, and Dark Phoenix) still have some entertainment value imo.

BiscuitsAndMilk02026-01-14 18:37

The sentinels only appear in Days of Future Past but it appears that the ones in Doomsday are gonna be very different to the ones we see in Days. They'll likely have a different origin and probably not as powerful. You'll understand why after seeing Days.

GAnda1fthe3wh1t32026-01-14 18:50

Don’t bother rewatching origins as it’s no longer canon

RihoSucks2026-01-14 18:59

While i agree with most of the comments that this is mostly unnecessary for doomsday hey youre coming up on first class and days of future past which are two of the best fox xmen movies so enjoy!

KB_Sez2026-01-14 19:42

Oh, I would have told you to skip X3. It's a piece of crap

AppleTStudio2026-01-14 19:44

Here’s what I think will be necessary, based on what we’ve learned:

X-Men

X2

X-Men The Last Stand

The Wolverine

X-Men: First Class

Days of Future Past

X-Men: Apocalypse

Deadpool

Logan

Deadpool 2

Deadpool and Wolverine

FragrantGearHead2026-01-14 19:52

Days of Future Past, when it was released, seemed to properly link First Class to the original trilogy, because the dystopian future with the Sentinels is a continuation of the original trilogy timeline.

And it’s made clear in DoFP that the versions of the characters in First Class are just the younger versions of the characters in the OT.

But then DoFP changes the path of history, Logan is no longer in that timeline that leads to the dystopian 2023 (the one that has the OT, plus The Wolverine), so when his consciousness jumps back to 2023 it is a version of 2023 where the original trilogy never existed (it’s now another strand of Multiverse).

So Jean has never possessed by the Phoenix Force, Xavier was never killed by Jean, and Logan never needed to kill Jean to save the world from the Phoenix Force.

And then Fox ballsed it all up by having the Prequel cast redo the whole Dark Phoenix storyline 🤦‍♂️

metalmankam2026-01-14 20:20

There are sentinels in the original X-Men franchise, they just changed them. We haven't been told anything about what's going on with the X-Men in doomsday. As for why there are comic accurate sentinels in doomsday we have no idea. Just like you we only have that 3 second clip.

flippergoalie2026-01-14 20:21

My order is X1, X2, Last Stand, Origins, The Wolverine, FC, DoFP (Rogue Cut), Apocalypse, Dark Pheonix, Logan, Deapool films

SpankyDomingo2026-01-14 20:54

IMO no need to watch Apocalypse or Dark Phoenix. And at least add in Deadpool vs. Wolverine. I’d also add in at least the first X-Men movie and maybe X2. X3’s casting of Kelsey Grammar as Beast is fantastic put most of the rest of the movie sucks.

mercy_death2026-01-14 21:36

Tbf you wont really need to rewatch Xmen as the first trilogy is essentially erased so those events contribute basically nothing to what comes next.

Turbulent-Spirit-5682026-01-14 21:53

The Sentinels only appears in Days of future Past during the present day sections of the film but they do make various appearances in Xmen The Animated Series

Brave_Classic_11502026-01-15 01:14

Everyone is rightly pooping on Dark Phoenix…….. but I think Apocalypse is definitely worth a watch as it helps cement the work of the first 2 films. And also gives arguably the 2nd best composition of super speed and music in a movie.
Actually it also gives Magneto a good character arc and shows his struggles.

Besides the ending, there’s some really good elements of Apocalypse

everyday952692026-01-15 02:31

"McAvoy or Stewart? These timelines can get so confusing.”