What shows are necessary for the the MCU post secret wars and in the next 2 avengers films and to understand the plot and all characters and cameos ?
What shows are necessary for the the MCU post secret wars and in the next 2 avengers films and to understand Doom and the plot as a character ?
'Ive seen all the films apart from the marvels
And ive seen wanda-vision,loki,cap and falcon,hawkeye and moonkight and ms marvels in terms of MCU shows
I have also seen all the OG xmen films and blade and the rest of the non spiderman films (spiderman 1, spider man 2, spiderman 3 and the amazing spiderman and blade, x men 1, xmen 2, xmen 3, x men days of the future past, x men apocalypse, x men first class, x men orgins wolverine, the wolverine and logan)
I've also seen some of the old animated spiderman cartoons on YouTube when I was young, I remember the one with the man bad thing and the other one where the hydro man or wate dude or whatever his name is comes back with marry jane
'Ive seen all the films apart from the marvels
And ive seen wanda-vision,loki,cap and falcon,hawkeye and moonkight and ms marvels in terms of MCU shows
I have also seen all the OG xmen films and blade and the rest of the non spiderman films (spiderman 1, spider man 2, spiderman 3 and the amazing spiderman and blade, x men 1, xmen 2, xmen 3, x men days of the future past, x men apocalypse, x men first class, x men orgins wolverine, the wolverine and logan)
I've also seen some of the old animated spiderman cartoons on YouTube when I was young, I remember the one with the man bad thing and the other one where the hydro man or wate dude or whatever his name is comes back with marry jane
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The Marvels post credit scene seems very important to the plot of the next movies, make sure to watch it.
Beyond that, I dont think any of the shows are necessary. Though WandaVision in my favorite, it irrelevant here unless Wanda is in the movie
You only need to see Loki tbh, I doubt the others will be that relevant
I am not quite sure why people act like watching the shows was a burden and they had to have some filter for what to watch (well, except for Secret Invasion which is simply an atrocity).
If you have a subscription with Disney+ you will probably find the time to watch all of the shows...
Phase 4 had 2 distinct themes: Legacy and the Metaphysics of the Multiverse. The later includes both timelines but also alternate dimensions and realms inside those universes and usually the often god like entities that either reside in these or created these.
If we take for example WandaVision: with almost god like powers Wanda creates her own world inside a pocket within "our" world.
Falcon and the Winter Soldier: Legacy.
Loki: alternate realities and eventually again god-like beings.
What if: both themes
Hawkeye: Legacy
Moon Knight: god-like beings and eventually realms
Ms. Marvel: Legacy and eventually dimensions
She-Hulk: Legacy... a bit.
Phase 5 was more of a mixed bag. Obviously Loki and Agatha All Along directly add to the first season/WandaVision qith the latter also adding the Legacy element.
Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man explores the timelines again. And Ironheart was supposed to pick up the Legacy element but poorly does so. The main thing she has that is similar to her idol Tony Stark is the hubris. In the finale there is of course a slight ditch into the god-like beings theme.
Secret Invasion, Echo, Daredevil: Born Again all pretty much ignore the themes.
People keep acting as if the Netflix/Defenders shows are now part of the "sacred timeline"/main MCU but it is actually kinda unclear whether they represent an alternate reality Matt Murdock.
Phase Six so far brought us Eyes of Wakanda which is in itself a Legacy story. And Marvel Zombies although started from the alternate reality show What If is also a lot about Legacy but eventually also again about god-like beings.
So yeah. A lot of these feature into the presumed plotlines of Doomsday. Not only when you consider that we should have gotten a Kang storyline instead but also due to >!the creation of Battleworld!<.
Especially the >!Thor!< trailer should also highlight the Legacy element again. >!Love and Thunder ended with "Love" being trained to become an Asgardian/Viking fighter but here Thor wishes her a different life.!<
Which in turn leads to the assumption that the other trailers >!are equally about the respective kids. Steve's unknown baby child, Cyclops breaking down after being robbed of his child (probably Cable), and Shuri talks about her duty. As the Black Panther this should involve protecting the king and Wakanda itself but she probably also talks about Toussaint who should be someone who matters to her.!<
So yeah. A lot of the shows will hold smaller or.larger puzzle pieces to understand the various character arcs of the movie installment... if rhey do it right.
I feel like they’re gonna make the movies the more important thing with Doomsday. Hence why they’ve announced Shang Chi for the film, we know the thunderbolts and the f4 and Namor play a role, whereas outside of Loki doesn’t feel like they’ve announced any characters explicitly tied to the shows. No mention of the Wanda family even.
I do think Wanda will at least play some sort of role in Secret Wars and in that case I’d recommend watching the Agatha show (essentially WandaVision pt2) and the upcoming Vision Quest show (which will be the final part of the WandaVision trilogy) that will probably have the family reunite in time for Secret Wars
Also we know Punisher is in this year’s Spider-Man, after his role in Daredevil Born Again, and Born Again directly follows Netflix Daredevil (and Punisher was in s2 of that as well). So might be worth doing Netflix Daredevil s1-3, Jessica Jones s1 (since she’s confirmed to be returning in Born Again s2) and maybe the Defenders (unlike those seasons this one kinda sucks BUT it’s an important bridge between Daredevil s2 and s3). I omit the Punisher show just because I don’t think it’s worth it and his character being introduced in Daredevil and his role in that show was far better than his series (hes more just like a CIA-asset in that show instead of a Punisher, also season 2 was when the Netflix stuff got canceled so they crammed two seasons worth into one and kind of messed it up). And then of course Daredevil Born Again (which gets its second season soon). People saying rumours that Daredevil could be in Secret Wars also but who knows. Random warning that Netflix daredevil is more violent than normal mcu, mostly in that first season once DeKnight takes over as showrunner from ep4 so just keep in mind lol.
.... We'll literally only know AFTER we get to see *Secret Wars*.
> to understand Doom
.... You will literally see him properly for the first time in *Doomsday* (not counting *First Steps*'s five seconds appearance that tells you nothing)
Doomsday/Secret Wars itself would be very important to the next saga with the Russos calling it a beginning story rather than an ending. No idea what shows would be necessary post Swcret Wars