Dr. Doom's introduction needs to feel like something straight out of a horror movie

They've put a significant focus on the idea of death since Thor's trailer. When they inevitably tease Doom, he needs to have a presence that terrifies the audience to their core, the ambiance of a villain that brings out nothing but utter despair and someone that will have every one of these heroes praying for even a chance at survival, just as we see with Thor. As if an eldrich monster is coming that cannot be defeated, only delayed as it builds to the inevitable outcome.

Part of what made Ultron so terrifying in his teaser trailer was the ominous tension in his dialogue that truly made him feel like a threat unlike anything seen in Marvel at the time. If they do this right, the theme of death will be brought to the forefront in a way that shows the audience nobody is safe.

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Bigbigbigrock2026-01-12 04:54

I imagine there will be some really painful deaths to help sell what a bastard Doom is.

TheChickenMan4L2026-01-12 04:56

100%, they need to show all the dimensions of Doom that make him so terrifying and downright cruel, yet also in some twisted fucked up way make him so badass you can't help but love seeing his rise to god status

Bigbigbigrock2026-01-12 05:03

I think Doom wastes Ant-Man in a bad way to show his ruthlessness, especially if they're actually adapting pieces of Children's Crusade.

TheChickenMan4L2026-01-12 05:05

Ant-man would hurt, but yeah if anybody's gotta go it would be him. Also, dare I say Cap Marvel. We know she's not gonna get any more films with how bad they performed, so I could see her getting a surprise appearance just to get evicerated by him

The only ones I pray don't die are Thor, Loki and Sentry. Loki died in IW already so would be redundant and would be a cool twist to have him survive, Thor I'd love to see get his final hoorah as rune king in SW, and Sentry was just introduced no way they'll just get rid of him like that

Bigbigbigrock2026-01-12 05:14

Scott dying makes sense for a lot of reasons, the big ones being prolly no Ant-Man 4, Rudd is 55 (Cheadle is 61 for comparison), and it sets up his kid's narrative since he died in comics.

Carol I think may stick around, I could see her being partnered up with someone like Nova in a project to see how she does as more of a team up character.

Thor I'm fifty fifty on, I know he could die and there's comics about his time in Valhalla. Loki I think will be fine but I been wrong plenty before. Sentry I think will be fine, especially if they plan to do DoDC stuff which leads into more Government run Avengers later which he had a hand in. If the Thunderbolts and Sam's Avengers turn into one team by the end, the US Gov is gonna still want their own team on a leash.

Endgam2026-01-12 05:21

>Also, dare I say Cap Marvel. We know she's not gonna get any more films with how bad they performed

"They"? *Her first film made over $1 billion.*

TheChickenMan4L2026-01-12 05:22

Yeah I forgot the first film made that much cause of how bad the second one bombed 😅 but admittedly that money likely came due to it releasing between IW and Endgame and all the hype there was at the time moreso than the quality of the movie itself

TheFunkytownExpress2026-01-12 10:00

Her first film was in between IW and Endgame when the MCU hype was arguably at an all time high though too.

It wasn't a great movie either and they portrayal of her character was kind of off-putting n shit.

Plus that whole thing with Fury's scar was just... ugh

She was WAY more likeable in The Marvels and Endgame.

Playful-Artichoke-672026-01-12 14:23

The entire plot was her being kept suppressed by a man telling her to control herself. Then she defeats him by giving up all control. You could almost say it’s a metaphor for men telling women to relax. That movie was something else for sure

TheFunkytownExpress2026-01-12 22:50

Yeah I understood the plot. Sure it's a good message but the execution left much to be desired.

You could've done the same movie and made her more likeable.

The Carol Danvers from the comics is a little cocky, sure, but in a selfassured and confident kind of way that you can respect and makes her likeable. Plus shes a natural born leader. She's almost a female Captain America if he was more of a wiseass like Iron Man.

On screen in the CM movie they leaned into the cockiness and wiseass stuff a lil too much but forgot to make her likeable lol.

In Endgame and The Marvels she was much more down to Earth and relatable without seeming assholish like she did in CM.

Responsible_Egg75192026-01-12 05:43

Sentry can’t die from what we know so far. Val’s kill switch blew up his brain and the Void revived him. If that didn’t kill him idk what will

alenpetak112026-01-12 13:37

Kang: "you're Doom, have i kill you before?"

Doom: [rip the spine out of bastard]

Youngling_Hunt2026-01-12 04:55

I really hope they dont minimize existing deaths by bringing specific characters back from the dead. Even in secret wars I dont really want to see an RSJ iron man, scarjo black widow. That way the deaths that have happened still feel concrete in some way

MarvelMind2026-01-12 04:56

You will see everyone imaginable between Doomsday and Secret Wars.

Youngling_Hunt2026-01-12 04:57

Yeah thats my concern. I jusr wanna make sure they are reverent to what has happened at a minimum

MarvelMind2026-01-12 04:58

I understand just don’t think Disney will resist just throwing everybody at the screen. It will be two big event movies that audiences flock to but hopefully they have good ideas for the story as well.

TheChickenMan4L2026-01-12 04:58

I don't think anybody's safe in this film, but I just hope if they do die, there isn't suddenly a version of them brought back in Secret Wars. It would feel more concrete and like the ones who do survive are dealt with an almost unimaginable task

Sylar_Lives2026-01-12 04:59

Marvel has a consistent pattern of replacing dead characters with variants. Doesn’t undo the deaths, but still.

Youngling_Hunt2026-01-12 05:01

Yeah, i know hard-core fans will understand whats happening but more casual audiences would be very confused or upset that character deaths mean nothing

vishnusbasement2026-01-12 06:43

they’ve introduced the concept of magical characters escaping death by inhabiting a new body who has also recently died, but since Doom can time travel that gives him a lot of options. I’m betting he’s killed easily in the first act, reincarnates as Tony just after the snap, movie picks up from there.

Dear_Grapefruit_65082026-01-12 05:05

I disagree it should feel heroic. Very Iron Man-esque

Doomsday shouldn’t be a direct reference to Doom, but to what he is claiming to save them from.

TheChickenMan4L2026-01-12 05:08

I get that he should have that side of him that is a savior, and we should see exactly why he is in this twisted way the right guy to save the multiverse from imploding on itself, but to set the stage for how horrifying he can be to achieve those goals, introducing him as this terrifying force would be a good start

Dear_Grapefruit_65082026-01-12 05:10

That should be the end. And it should contrast directly with Peter Parker’s sacrifice which I think it will.

Edit: which will make it all the more devastating.

Sickey3452026-01-12 07:12

I think it’s waaaay more likely he comes across as an ally at first. Secret wars will show off his new powers and hopefully they take some scenes from the comic to show how strong he becomes.

In the comic he wants to help stop what’s going on and only really goes solo when the avengers refuse to let him help.

Gilded-Mongoose2026-01-12 05:29

That would feel like an elevated version of Mysterio then.

Dear_Grapefruit_65082026-01-12 05:32

Would that be bad?

“The only thing people love more than a hero is to watch them fail; die trying” - Green Goblin

Gilded-Mongoose2026-01-12 07:21

Redundant, but not bad. Would have preferred for Mysterio to not have been done that way and for Doom's deceit to feel more fresh.

AugustusKhan2026-01-12 18:20

Mysterio is all fake facade though.

Doom is Augustus, the cold ruthless winner, noo, survivor of an age of chaos and destruction whose victory lap is not personal riches, it’s creating Pax Dooma.

Most villains conquer for world domination, Dooms conquering and world domination is a means to an end, and end with humanity’s survival guaranteed.

Less-Tax56372026-01-12 05:38

lmao, so Doomsday should feel like propaganda in Doom’s favor? Marvel Editorial gonna send a job offer to your inbox

I’m here for it though since the dramatic irony is immense. Like we all know exactly who Victor von Doom is, so it should actually be kinda fun watching the whole MCU get jebaited by Green Iron Man.

This is kinda my consolation prize tho. Everything about the way Doom is getting introduced in general makes me sad.

Dear_Grapefruit_65082026-01-12 05:43

Well Ok, I mean it’s Dooms whole thing so I don’t know what you expected

JamesLikesIt2026-01-12 06:41

Agreed actually, especially if the leaks and rumors are to be believed. Doom isn’t really an evil person per se, he believes he’s doing what is best, so it should be perceived to the audience that he is trying to help, only to have him go too far in the eyes of other heroes.

I actually like the idea that he may be seen as a good guy initially and maybe even convince some heroes to join him for a time. It’d be different to Thanos where he was a solo force of nature. I feel like we’ve done that, Doom could be something different, at least initially. Towards the end though, yeah he should become unstoppable leading into Secret Wars.

BartleBossy2026-01-12 15:57

> Doom isn’t really an evil person per se, he believes he’s doing what is best, so it should be perceived to the audience that he is trying to help, only to have him go too far in the eyes of other heroes.

THIS.

People need to understand Doom.

He is ego incarnate. He is the benevolent god that the *multiverse* has been waiting on.

BannedSvenhoek862026-01-12 18:39

https://arousinggrammar.com/2013/09/24/the-motivations-of-doctor-doom/

That should be the Doom they introduce. A Doom who looks at the magic of Dr Strange and says, "This exists, therefore it is measurable by science. And that means I can learn it." And then goes on to become as powerful as a Sorcerer Supreme through sheer will and knowledge. A Doom who doesn't just *believe* he is right, but has looked into the future and **KNOWS** he is right.

A Doom who will kill millions to save billions. And genuinely does it from a place of love and want for humanity to succeed. And not even a God that can see into the depths of his soul can deny his intentions and motives as pure.

If they do it right he'll be even more sympathetic than Killmonger and Thanos.

BartleBossy2026-01-12 18:43

> If they do it right he'll be even more sympathetic than Killmonger and Thanos.

Disney doesnt have the fucking balls

Mizerous2026-01-12 08:24

Doom is a wolf in sheep's clothing

Eject_The_Warp_Core2026-01-12 15:23

yep, he should come across as powerful and regal, but not as some kind of horror movie villain. I think initially he shouldn't be scary at all. I think later he should do something that demonstrates how cold and calculating he is (like sacrificing a hero), and when the full scope of what he has planned is revealed along with his almost certain power to achieve it, that's when he is scary like OP suggests

Writerhaha2026-01-12 15:52

The “liberation” of Latveria.

TheLiquor19462026-01-12 23:06

This!

JasonP272026-01-12 05:06

I'm not sure you're going to get what you want, especially if the rumours about him using looking like Tony Stark to garner trust are true. At least not immediately in the beginning.

That being said I feel that the entire movie is his introduction, and we *will* get that sometime before the third act of the movie to up the stakes.

TheChickenMan4L2026-01-12 05:10

I sure hope so cause they really can't do Doom justice without showing just how awful he can be. But at the same time, Doom really shouldn't have his mask off at all imo until like a certain point right near the end

FerrusManlyManus2026-01-12 05:15

Don’t you think it would be a nice turn of events if, he seems somewhat reasonable at first, basically cons some of the heroes, and is revealed to be a ruthless bastard later on?

This is going to be a much different movie than Infinity War.

Also, I wish everyone would accept that MCU Doom is going to show his face a decent chunk of the time, unlike comics Doom. There is no way they hired RDJ to have Doom masked 99% of the time.

TheChickenMan4L2026-01-12 05:18

I mean there are rumors of Tony Stark coming back somehow, so that could be where RDJ shows his face more. But honestly I just love the ambiguity of them not really knowing who he is and seeing its the face of the guy who saved the universe at the end could be quite the shock. Either way I trust the Russos will come up with a smart way to utilize the character, as long as they don't reduce him to a 'Tony Stark variant' which would be dumb af for Marvel's arguably best villain

eyebrows3602026-01-12 14:12

> rumors

These are not "rumours", these are just "people saying shit". There's no credence to any of it.

"I think Dr Doom will be played by a cat"

Oh no, there are "rumours" that Doom will be played by a cat!!!!!!!!1

TheChickenMan4L2026-01-12 14:31

Damn and here I was hoping he'd be an ostrich

PG20092026-01-12 18:09

Having him showing up and pretending to be Stark would be a great bit of dramatic irony for us audience members.

monekys2026-01-12 05:09

Watch them fodder hulk again like they did in infinity war

TheChickenMan4L2026-01-12 05:11

They better not disrespect my boy twice, I mean they had to have learned their lesson, right??

Also there's a chance he just straight up won't be in the movie if brand new day takes place concurrently

Giantrobby19962026-01-12 05:22

I’m imagining it taking some inspiration from the villain entrances in the other Avengers films. A magnificent, majestic sense of purpose just like Loki (maybe the cape does it), the cold genocidal aura reminiscent of Ultron’s introduction to the heroes, and the intimidating measure of power by being surrounded by dead bodies that we saw from Thanos, since the trailer leaks suggest >!he wipes out the Council of Kangs to symbolize that Doomsday replaced Kang Dynasty!<

TheChickenMan4L2026-01-12 05:25

I've actually been really wanting to see that, if they're not going to utilize that character anymore as a threat, they at least have to follow-up on that end-credit scene. There's no way you can just leave them lingering without a conclusion for why they won't be a threat in the film, so this would be a quick and satisfying way to get rid of em altogether

Imakemaps182026-01-12 08:45

It’s also a great way to have a Post Credits call back in 5 years showing a single Kang variant surviving who doesn’t look like Johnathan Majors.

Edboy7962026-01-12 13:28

How would it be if it was fully comic accurate and it's just some old white dude

EternalMage3212026-01-12 14:59

Albino Kang confirmed.

Imakemaps182026-01-13 14:22

I’m down with it, I wish Majors could have continued but ya know

Edboy7962026-01-13 14:25

Yeah, I was thinking in a way that wasn't exactly insulting to Majors after how his case turned out, but still aligned with the multiverse variants thing

catchthetams2026-01-12 14:09

Which end credits scene? Quantumania?

Varranis2026-01-12 13:17

Isn’t what you’re referencing just AI nonsense or was there a more official leak? Doesn’t seem like something that would be in a trailer.

Giantrobby19962026-01-12 15:33

The way the leaks have operated so far was somebody who’s seen the trailers used AI to recreate them as a way to circumvent copyright strikes. The last three trailers were leaked that way, then showed close similarities with the real trailers once they came out.

Varranis2026-01-12 15:52

There were a lot of fake ones too. Some were really obvious. This one was a lot more unique but I haven’t seen anything indicating it’s real.

CaptHayfever2026-01-12 16:03

If it's AI-generated, I'm going to presume it's absolute BS, no matter what they claim to be recreating.

NihilistKurtWarner2026-01-12 16:29

I mean, 99% of the time, yes. The past two have been nearly 1:1 recreations. Very strange.

alenpetak112026-01-12 13:36

Apropos of [spoiler], well the said persons can attack Tree and 828 too, then Doom use Darkhold like powers to find all variants and send them to Hell or something...

tindersamurai2026-01-12 14:21

MF DOOM plays when he kicks Kangs’ asses! Then he kills all variants of Captain America and says “just remember ALL CAPS when you spell the man name” 🎤

PM_ME_UR_RESPECT2026-01-12 17:07

Oh yeah. What I’ve been saying since Majors was given the boot is that you should have another Kang (or in this case, Doom) come from out of left field and pull what Cersei did with the Sept of Bailor in Game of Thrones.

Empire_New_Valyria2026-01-12 18:27

I'd like to see him fight and easily kill a team of avengers, X-Men, fantastic 4 etc.... maybe even cast fan favorites or people who were linked with the roles in the past.

It should mirror the Thanos scene at the start of Infinity War but be more brutal and just really show how powerful Doom is as he kills all these heroes before it's revealed they are from a different universe

Endgam2026-01-12 05:28

*An eldritch monster that cannot be defeated?!* Holy shit man.

*Doom literally allied with the heroes against Thanos when he had the Infinity* *~~Gems~~* *Stones. He's not that kind of villain.*

TheChickenMan4L2026-01-12 05:33

I mean monster in the sense of the lengths he's willing to go to achieve his goals, even if it means making the most cruel actions to get there. Maybe eldrich is a little far, but I was just emphasizing this almost sinister threat that the heroes will inevitably feel powerless against when all said n done

SchizoSophist2026-01-13 23:22

I think this is a different Doom with different stakes that span the multiverse

I think he’s

The Doom of Dooms

To kill incursion
Which I’m sure cost him something

Bro is gonna create singularity incursion

Battleworld
probably kill many who we know along the way

Magneto wouldn’t be talking about The End unless it was inevitable horizon

When days of future past

Becomes part of a now unified continuity

What happens when Doom strikes at Yggdrasil

Stitching together the pieces

Within

The timeless Void

To rule over as God-Emperor
What happens?

Who can stop him?

How is continuity restored?

Why was Cyclops open eyed unrestrained?

SchizoSophist2026-01-13 23:44

Rune King Thor mf

Gilded-Mongoose2026-01-12 05:28

I've said I'd like to see him creep into the forefront like a Multiversal Negan.

TheChickenMan4L2026-01-12 05:34

"This is your way of life now. The more you fight back, the harder it will be. So, if Doom knocks on your door... you let him in motherfucker."

Lmao

Bigbigbigrock2026-01-12 06:24

Unrelated, my buddy and I are in agreement Jeffrey Dean Morgan would be a badass Carter Slade/Ghost Rider.

"Turns out you had some fire in you after all."

morkman1002026-01-12 19:10

[You're not saving this world, ~~Rick~~ Thor. You're just getting it ready for me.](https://imgur.com/r5d1t4V)

Gilded-Mongoose2026-01-12 19:28

Holy shit that is sick af!

foxxgod2026-01-12 06:51

I called this happening.

https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/s/fckA5vcpbr

LittleBingo962026-01-12 07:26

Dr. Doom is a guy in a suit of armor. We've all seen him in countless comics, cartoons, and previous movies. How are you going to make him scary while keeping his character faithful to the comics? He's just too familiar.

Mizerous2026-01-12 08:27

Plus his goofy THIRD PERSON SPEAK

Spicyytamale2026-01-12 10:48

Hulk smash? Gambit never folds?

rycology2026-01-12 16:02

![gif](giphy|fxBZ0QknDHyNwrSidD)

CaptHayfever2026-01-12 16:04

Gambit, at least, isn't scary.

raisingcuban2026-01-12 07:29

> eldrich monster

You really don’t understand doom

TheChickenMan4L2026-01-12 07:30

I don't mean it literally, I explained my thoughts process to someone else on that

raisingcuban2026-01-12 15:58

Well, you should explain it in your main post if that’s not what you meant

TheChickenMan4L2026-01-12 15:59

Not that big a deal man, that's the point of comments to discuss this stuff further 🤷‍♂️ just easier if you find the other one since there aren't too many

raisingcuban2026-01-12 16:38

Ah gotcha. It’s all about what’s easier for you

Kaliisthesweethog2026-01-12 07:49

I just they remember that it's ALL CAPS WHEN YOU SPELL THE MAN'S NAME.

TheFunkytownExpress2026-01-12 10:02

That's a different kinda villain tho.

Kaliisthesweethog2026-01-12 10:21

A Madvillain, to be sure.

TheFunkytownExpress2026-01-12 10:39

Who got more soul than a sock wit a hole.

LetterOfTheLaw2026-01-12 07:56

I have been thinking this for a while... almost like Ghostface.. less is more, it's better if he doesn't talk.

alfonsobob2026-01-12 08:04

“Needs” is a little strong

usmannaeem2026-01-12 08:06

Marvel's horror is just R.

Wasteland_Mystic2026-01-12 08:15

The opening sequence I want to see: The movie opens on the Council of Kang stadium with thousands of dead Kangs. Rama-Tut, Immortus and Scarlet Centurion are alive looking fatigued and injured. Suddenly Scarlet Centurion is hit with an energy blast to the chest, killing him. Rama-Tut attempts to stand and is hit with a blast too. Doom approaches Immortus, lifts him up and rips his arm off and subsequently a wristband, like the one we saw on He Who Remains. Doom takes off a TVA style wristband and puts on Immortus’ wristband. He opens a timegate and the screen goes dark.

pinguin_skipper2026-01-12 08:23

I saw more and more rumours lately about opening sequence being Doom annihilating all Kang variants in that arena we saw in post credit scene of Antman. Not just killing them but all of Kangs screaming in fear and desperately trying to run.

TheChickenMan4L2026-01-12 13:59

I could see him taking advantage of immortus' ability to call all the kangs to one place like he did in the post credit scene, no better way to get rid of the threat than to have one place you can wipe em all out

PanthersJB832026-01-12 09:55

I know it isn't going to happen, but I want the X-Men to be the openers and Doom shows up with doombot colored sentinels and ruins their shit. To the point Scott is like the lone survivor who somehow then gets swept into the 616 universe

TheChickenMan4L2026-01-12 14:01

I feel like there's gonna be a lot of x-men initially that aren't on the listed roster who die when the sentinels do show up, like in the one snippet we see of cyclops with him and the others they announced being the only survivors that meet 616

PanthersJB832026-01-12 14:12

As much as I love the character of Nightcrawler, and as good of an actor as Alan Cummings is... I really don't want a 60+ yr old Nightcrawler running around the whole film...

POOTDISPENSER2026-01-12 10:31

“No resurrections this time.”

Androecian2026-01-12 10:56

The most horrifying Dr. Doom I've ever seen woke up in the hospital and people's heads started exploding.

I REALLY hope RDJ tops that. Somehow.

distilledwill2026-01-12 10:57

With Thanos they often emphasised the fact that he's kinda *just a guy*. Like, aside from his underlings who kinda hyped him up - he was usually all about his purpose, and he never had any desire to rule the universe (shown by farmer Thanos at the start of Endgame).

Doom, however, must be completely convinced of his primacy, his absolute and unwavering right to rule.

Darth_Queso_2026-01-12 11:15

It needs to be like thanos' in the beginning of infinity war, but like dialed to 11

LostEsco2026-01-12 11:25

He’ll show up nd kill off the fox x-men for the umpteenth time to show “oh dis is a WEAL thweat, it gets sewious”

worm78902026-01-12 11:59

I feel like it’s going to be the scene where he pulls Thanos’ skull and spinal cord out that they realize he’s not here to save them, but to rule them.

Wonderful-Ad-43022026-01-12 12:05

LOL!!! Its a marvel movie. He'll be wise cracking and making puns ie *you are all doomed*

TheChickenMan4L2026-01-12 14:04

Nahhhh ik they did that to ultron but that was joss wheedon in control, but thanos' maintained that serious intimidating nature, I think the Russos will keep that consistent in Doomsday too

Besides after RDJ's Oppenheimer performance, no better way to see a truly serious and intense role to show off his range

Prize_Instance_14162026-01-12 12:08

If they don’t make it more serious and plot related, it will be the death of superhero movies for many years. The genre can’t take a 300 million dollar flop. Keep the endless one liners away.

transformerslover2_02026-01-12 12:29

My theory is that F4 Dr Doom is actually some random actor. He starts talking to Sue about politics, then all of a sudden a hand goes through him, and reveals RDJ Doom from a multiverse portal or something. Not gonna be the case, but it’s funny to think about…

ChurchBrimmer2026-01-12 12:58

I'm still holding that Doomsday is actually gonna loosely adapt Time Runs Out, if they do then Doom actually won't be a directly antagonistic force gor a lot of the movie but will still be able to show him Dooming it up.

Affectionate_Rub_6382026-01-12 13:00

Dude, it's Disney. They have to appeal to widest audience possible

MisterGoldiloxx2026-01-12 13:13

Doom will invite the heroes out for shawarma...but it will be poisoned!

TheChickenMan4L2026-01-12 14:05

At Steve's house: Shalooooom Steve shalooom

Gold-Judgment-67122026-01-12 13:19

But I assume this version will be done after two movies. I'm more interested in how they will introduce the real deal.

EKomadori2026-01-12 13:53

See, I think what Doom needs is the opposite. He should feel somewhat familiar. They have RDJ playing him, and that's perfect for playing him up as a counterpart to the MCU's Tony Stark (and Reed Richards).

A man who thinks he knows what is best and will do whatever it takes to protect his people. He has a suit of armor around himself, has extended it to his nation and wants to extend it further to his world.

eyebrows3602026-01-12 14:09

So basically *not* the little switcheroo they did with Ultron where he was all dark and brooding and terrifying in the trailers, but actually a quip machine in the actual film.

TheChickenMan4L2026-01-12 17:57

Exactly. Thanos was menacing in the trailers and thats exactly what we got in the movies. I trust the Russos to give us exactly the tone of the character we see in the trailers and not pull sum joss wheedon bs

eyebrows3602026-01-12 18:09

Amen to that!

I've since warmed to Ultron and love it dearly, but yeah at the time that was quite the surprise.

00Laser2026-01-12 14:10

Now that you said that and considering the huge cast I wouldn't be surprised if Doom kills a few heroes very early in the movie.

EternalMage3212026-01-12 14:58

If that was the plan, it would be cool if they got Raimi to come in for the intro. That guy does horror really well.

ItWasInTheScript2026-01-12 16:23

does it

FDVP2026-01-12 17:07

Nope. His introduction should be delicate. He’s appearing as an ally. The time and frame of reference should be off-putting in a familiar way but not threatening, at first. Doom is right, the audience must understand that. The characters must have no way to disagree with him.

TheChickenMan4L2026-01-12 18:00

The problem too, is how do they make a guy who's literal name is Victor Von Doom, seem like a character who totally isnt going to backstab the heroes? Especially if they establish his connection with Reed, it'll bring up serious red flags for them early on. Idk we'll have to see ig

pagerussell2026-01-12 17:49

No thanks. We tried horror in the MCU and it was so incredibly bad.

Chron_bomb2026-01-12 17:56

They’re just going to mimic infinity war/endgame. He’s going to come in and devastate everyone in doomsday and then the hero’s will fix it all in secret wars. So imo he’s going to pull off something equivalent to or greater than Thanos snap. Something like erasing realities like he did in the comics.

PG20092026-01-12 18:15

Doom is very intelligent, well-read, extremely wealthy, charismatic when he wants to be, and completely ruthless.

The comics show this by presenting Doom as a threat, then presenting an even bigger threat (Galactus, Beyonder, etc.) and having Doom provide a solution that is seen as "yeah, he's a prick, but this is actually a decent solution to our shared problem, so let's swallow our pride and agree to it"

...then Doom betrays everyone and tries to take over.

Degan7472026-01-12 18:22

That’s not who Doom is at all

Ckhurana2026-01-12 19:36

Maybe a core avenger dies in the first 15 minutes.... Who knows...? Total bummer but that is probably something which makes " shit hit the fan" pretty quickly!

TheLiquor19462026-01-12 23:06

I feel like a lot of fans on this sub don't know/understand Doom or have ever read a comic with him in it.

SnooDucks77622026-01-15 05:34

They don't

Planet_Kolbasz3832026-01-12 23:18

Is the movie in two parts? If it is the first movie needs to be black and white and 7 hours long, like a Béla Tarr movie, and completely in Latverian. No English. No subtitles.

DeeZee-K2026-01-13 00:23

You all never read anything with Dr Doom in it and IT SHOWS

Pods062026-01-13 02:03

Several characters gotta die within the first 20 minutes

akgiant2026-01-13 02:15

DOOM'S arrival should feel like hopelessness.

The multiverse saga has leaned into themes of legacy and parentage a lot. With the teasers even showing >! Cap with a kid!<

I'm pretty sure Doom will be >!some form of a Tony variant (or vice versa) but one who lost his child, Morgan.!<

SirRichardLove2026-01-13 03:19

I want to see him kill marvel heroes. Just straight up murder them and keep walking. He needs to be 10 times more frightening than Thanos.

smakson112026-01-13 10:14

nooooooooooo

Sir__Will2026-01-13 16:52

No thanks.