Post secret wars the MCU needs to drop the constant cameos or 'fan service'

There's been way too much of this shoe horned into the multiverse saga too please the audience instead of writing good stories and devolping their charcters, it was OK in no way home but there's been way too much of it, once the three universes merge together in secret wars (x men universe and the main mcu universe and the fantastic four universe), they should just focus on showing us the great charcters they have, and develop them further by having them interact with other characters in the MCU.

Part of what made the MCU so great in the first place was that they set up singular characters and we got too see them devolpe and grow by interacting with other MCU heros, now it seems like the plot is making the characters rather then the other way round if you understand me.

It's just a waste of time and not shocking and takes away from the time every time they shoe horned in random not needed charcters because they think MCU nerds like me will beat their meat all over these little things. It's insulting. It was OK once in a while with things like no way home but that's it it needs too stop. Keep everything in the new MCU (the 3 universes merging, the new X men universe, fantastic four universe and th3 main MCU universe).

That's partly how we got a brilliant film in things like infinity war or thunderbolts despite its 'bad' box office (although this kinda reflects most films post 2021 covid), also don’t go all game of thrones style, which seems to be in every show nowadays due to its influence, where you kill of half of the main characters that people fall in love with or give them 'bitter sweet endings', which are just bitter,

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Darrensucks2026-01-11 19:37

Or just do it better, lik the bucky reveal in winter soldier.

TipAdditional46252026-01-11 19:39

I wouldn't say thats a cameo or fan service

CulturalDragonfly6312026-01-11 19:42

Yeah, that was a major part of the plot.

Asn_Browser2026-01-11 19:49

And he developed into a major mcu fixture. It was also a huge comic storyline. I mean huge. For decades there 2 untouchable for resurrection. Uncle Ben and bucky. Now it is only uncle Ben.

Darrensucks2026-01-11 21:25

Didn't say it was, but I said you can do a cameo if it's high quality like that appearance. And another thing, it's irrelevant if down the road the suits choose to wear out bucky for cash grab, don't change the fact that the appearance was well done and an excellent model to reference all future appearances AND cameos. Game, set, match.

OrtizDupri2026-01-11 19:39

What do you mean

Own-Papaya-42642026-01-11 19:40

What else was there besides no way home and Deadpool 3? Really not that much. Plus all those guys were reintroduced to appear in doomsday/secret wars just like any other mcu character would be introduced

thedelisnack2026-01-11 19:51

Ralph Bohner in Wandavision, Daredevil in She-Hulk and Echo, Sharon Carter in FatWS, Wilson Fisk in Hawkeye. It almost never happens in the Disney+ projects and even then it’s barely noticeable. Post-credit scenes have been straight-up ridiculous for a while, though.

thrawn_is_king2026-01-11 20:25

Sharon Carter was not a cameo. She was part of the plot. Wilson Fisk was reestablishing his presence for future appearances.

thedelisnack2026-01-11 20:28

The power broker subplot never got mentioned again so it felt more like a cameo

thrawn_is_king2026-01-11 21:17

I mean, yeah, I'm definitely not defending the writing of the series.

Everyoneheresamoron2026-01-11 19:43

They usually do it when the movie itself isn't interesting enough to drive sales.

CommunityDragon1842026-01-11 19:46

Impossible_Quote_5052026-01-11 19:49

Yes like Harry Styles

ckal092026-01-11 19:51

Absolutely. Post-Endgame has been so much non-MCU nostalgia bait and the rest of everything suffered. It makes it even worse that they’ve completely and utterly squandered the multi-verse saga by not making any meaningful changes. This easily could’ve and should’ve been the time to do some recasting as or resurrections or reintroduction of a character with a different version. Just poor planing and execution.

cane-of-doom2026-01-11 19:51

I have clear memories that that what "made it so great" was that it was all connected, even though in reality it was much less conneceted than it could have been.

If anything, the Multiverse Saga goes to show that you need to maintain that connection for audiences to care. You need to keep reminding them that these characters exist.

Marvel has gone out of its way to not crossover characters that made sense for the sake of pleasing the "you need homework/it's all cameos" crowd.

StormCloudRaineeDay2026-01-11 19:52

I don't know what you mean by shoehorning. The whole point of all these characters being in the same universe is them interacting. And why wouldn't multiple characters be involved in a single event when many of them live close together?

chimatt7672026-01-11 19:52

They should allow absolutely nothing fun in any movies moving forward.

KUMA04152026-01-11 20:00

I agree with you

but its a weird thin line,

for one you have NWH, which is one of the biggest films of the decade, generating billions, built around cameos first, story second.

on the other side you have the Eternals, a standalone story briefly referencing the larger MCU, but still contained on its own, it freaking bombed at the box office and people kept complaining about it being boring af.

Obviously we get to have our own opinions, but it makes sense for Marvel to keep pushing fan-service (i.e Deadpool 3) rather than Eternals, correct?

but i think it’s just moderation, do it too many times it loses its effect, do it just proper, its smooth sailing.

slavelabor522026-01-11 20:25

The Eternals never should have been introduced as a movie. Makes no sense to me that in the phase where they really start ramping up Marvel TV shows they didn't just make an Eternals TV show. We're talking about 10 characters being jammed into a 2 hour and 36 minute runtime movie. That's 15 minutes and 36 seconds per character. It would have been so much better to take our time with each character and have like a 10 episode season 1 with an episode focusing on each Eternal's journey through human history. Then do an Avengers/Eternals crossover movie with the Emergence plotline.

Loose_Concentrate3322026-01-11 20:07

It's two movies that were ENTIRELY based on the multiverse. That was the point.

Otherwise, it's really just the TV shows, and it works there.

You make it sound like the last 5 years has been nothing but cameos, which is not the case

YodaWattsLee2026-01-11 20:08

Can you give examples of which ones bothered you?

Just looking through the Multiverse Saga at the returning character appearances in movies/shows where they weren’t the lead characters, and the only times I can think of this happening were all Matt Murdoch.

> She-Hulk didn’t need Matt Murdoch.

>No Way Home cameos were very relevant to the plot, except Matt Murdoch.

>Echo didn’t need Matt Murdoch.

The rest of the cameos and fan service were at least relevant to the plot.

>MoM’s cameos were definitely fan service, but they were also relevant to the plot.

>Love & Thunder has the Guardians, but that was a continuation from Endgame.

>Deadpool & Wolverine cameos were definitely fan service, but they were also relevant to the plot.

>Hawkeye and Echo had Kingpin, who was relevant to both plots.

It more seems like you’re just tired of the multiverse, and I think most people (including Marvel themselves) would agree that they need to end this saga and focus on one universe again.

Hedgewitch2502026-01-11 20:25

The problem was they lost direction in the multiverse saga. During the infinity saga cameos linked directly to coming projects like the winter solider having Wanda and pietro who were prominent in age of ultron. Now they keep throwing cameos when the installment of work they’re coming in isn’t even in the roadmap like Hercules. They need aim smaller and follow through like the constant reshoots messed them up. They didn’t have as much faith in themselves as the first saga and it reflected. Hopefully they understand slow and steady wins the race cause they don’t have to chase an overarching story just build into a crescendo even if it’s something small like an annihilation event with only cosmic heroes

throwtheclownaway202026-01-11 20:27

People are making way too big a deal about the Fox cameos, especially since they're exclusively appearing in the ***MULTIVERSE*** Saga. It seems excessive, but it really isn't. Let's go down the list:

- Evan Peters wasn't actually playing the character of Quicksilver on WandaVision (it was an Easter egg/joke), but I'll count it

- Beast showed up in the alternate universe in the end credits of The Marvels

- Wolverine, X-23, Elektra, Blade, Gambit, etc. showed up in Deadpool & Wolverine because the entire movie was a giant meta joke about the FoX movies being decanonized now that Disney owned the studio.

- Prof. X and Jim-Reed showed up in Multiverse Of Madness because, again, it's driving home the point that they're in a different universe

- Tobey & Andrew, and their villains, showed up in No Way Home because, once again, it's supposed to be a multiverse movie.

So, yeah, that seems like a lot, right? Especially in DP&W where they had, like, 40 characters from the Fox movies show up. However, we didn't get a single "multiverse cameo" at all in:

- Moon Knight
- She-Hulk
- Black Panther 2
- Black Widow
- Shang-Chi
- Ironheart
- Falcon & The Winter Soldier
- Loki, both seasons
- What If?, all 3 seasons
- Hawkeye
- The Eternals
- Ms. Marvel
- Thor: Love & Thunder
- Guardians 3
- The Guardians Christmas Special
- I Am Groot
- Werewolf By Night
- Ant-Man & Wasp: Quantumania
- Secret Invasion
- Agatha All Along
- Echo
- Daredevil: Born Again, both seasons
- Captain America: Brave New World
- Thunderbolts
- Fantastic Four
- Marvel Zombies

Doomsday, Secret Wars, the Punisher one-shot, & Spider-Man: Brand New Day are all counted as in the Multiverse Saga, too, but it can be safely assumed from leaks that Punisher & Spidey's projects won't have anything to do with the Fox characters. So, in all, *7 projects out of 39* actually had these multiverse cameos everyone's saying are "too much". That means that only about 18% of the Multiverse Saga was actually related to the multiverse!

What's funny is that this is actually par for the course for the MCU. If you go back and look at Phases 1-3, only 8 of those 23 movies dealt directly with the plot of the Infinity Stones at all.

Wooden-Radish-90082026-01-12 02:16

This should be the top comment