My take on F4: First Steps
Okay so i just watched F4, and i wanna give my opinion on it.
Fans excuse me but i feel like i wasted 2h of my life i'm never getting back, nonetheless it was night time when i should be getting some sleep. The movie sucked for me.
First the cast:
who even told pedro pascal he could act? Seriously, i would like to meet the person who introduced him to hollywood or the one who casted him as a super genius scientist named "reed", he just doesn't have the vibes of a "reed richards", his acting skills are awfull, even seth rogen would make a better delivery than him, he's just not made for a superhero movie.
And vanessa kirby yelling "put down my son" felt like a familiar "i need you to give me the stone, what happened to it?" Energy. We just got our Gal gadot, congratulations. Don’t get me wrong she is a great actress but maybe the script didn't do her great, for example in that scene where she came out to give the speech it felt just off-putting and bizarre, it had no emotions, no sincerity, it felt awful and boring.
Joseph quinn felt like he was trying too much, which came out as awkward and unnatural and felt like acting, no immersion at all.
Ebon moss bachrach on the other hand was good acting, and the thing was very cool, but he had less screen time.
Overall the cast didn't have any chemistry between them, maybe the thing and johnny had some. But sue and reed felt awkward, sue and johnny was short lived and didn't feel like siblings. Most of the scenes between the 4 was johnny trying to say something and getting shut down by the rest of them or unecessary comedy quips that feels forced, you don't feel a humorous connection, chemistry or synergy between them.
The plot and pacing:
It felt rushed, wrongly executed and very fast paced.
So many plotholes and convient story telling moments, like shalla bala coming to warn earth didn't feel justified like with norrin radd, nor logical, it felt like she came just to conventionally let the plot happen, her timing (a long time before galactus would arrive), the way she warned them, the words she used, all felt like plot convenience.
reed felt like a super genius, an unexplained super genius who is just writing on a chalkboard, no realism, no stress, no mistakes and repeat, no doubt, no emotions unlike tony, banner or shuri who showed how genius they were and gave them scientifical depth.
They build multiples towers in idk how much time around the world which felt highly unrealistic even if their world is advanced, his science was pure trust me bro.
Space physics were slammed to the wall, the jumps, the speed of light field, the neutron star, how time works in space (which was disastrous to say the least), giving birth inside a moving space ship while floating in 2 min plot time.
using the neutron star energy to push themself was very cliché and unrealistic. nothing felt real or semantic in it.
johnny solving the language barrier and learning a whole planet story and her personal back story from just one sentence in an alien language nonetheless was the most lazy writing i've seen, the least they could have done was to try.
galactus and the silver surfur were pathetic, i mean is that a celestial? And a celestial level threat? really?! wanda wouldn't even give him a second, hell i'd say even ant man could beat him easily, he felt like a weird idiot who is easily fooled and lured, he took the bait faster than a fish. He felt like the usual villains you beat in the first 10 minutes of any superhero introduction, not threatening at all for a powerfull cosmic being. His few lines and dialogue felt so cliché, boring and unoriginal. Compare that to thanos or zemo or ultron or any past villain.
silver surfur sacrificing herself in the end felt so cliché and an "of course" moment.
the npc felt so cliché and stereotypical, like of course there will be a guy on tv saying they have to give up the child duh, that's like npc 101.
sue's speech to the public felt hollow and the public reaction was stupid and felt npc like.
Journalism, politics and the whole UN scenes felt like she hulk, unrealistic and far from politics real dynamic (what we've seen across the mcu mainly in CA trilogy which is very close to real world)
the world felt oddly utopian and unrealistic, the level of technology is stupid, unexplained and out of place there were no back story, no world building or introduction, no technologic realism like in wakanda, it felt like there was a huge gap between what they have and what they don’t.
the car scene where they were trying to attach the seatbelt felt out of place and just unecessary and the type of forced comedy and forced character dynamics they have been trying to do since it worked in ragnarok and gotg, they have failed miserably many times yet they keep trying to force it in every movie, they did it in endgame and it was slightly notoceable, then they went full power mode in love and thunder and redid it in she-hulk and now in F4.
the script and lines felt like the director turned on the camera went to the bathroom and told them to just not burn the place down and say whatever they want to the camera.
The music in almost every scene was awful. Not just “meh” actively off-putting and annoying. Wrong tone, wrong energy, wrong timing. It made already bad scenes feel even cheaper.
the cgi was awfull, the scene where ben meets his crush for the first time? He felt out of place, like he was a big toy put there or a ps4 scene in a CW show, galactus on earth too. It just felt like CGI. And before you come at me CGI is different than cinematic visuals and color grading, the visuals were great, not so great but great compared to other things in the movie.
Overally everything felt weird and cliché and stereotypical, even the shooting, because of course when sue comes back to life the camera would zoom in to her fingers moving, duh, classic.
the pacing of events, the scenes switching and passing of time was very awfully executed, it's like i was watching a youtube recap (i should have just watched that honestly), in one scene she's pregnant in the other she tells the group, in another she's 8 month pregnant, the baby is just born and suddenly in the next scene he's giggling and being old enough to be carried around. one moment thing has no beard in another moment he grew a full carpenter beard.
I don't know if this is the new marvel approach? because i picked a similar vibe in brave new world, or maybe i just got used to the slow burn of past movies? In the past, each scene was given its worth, each scene was allowed to breath to take its time, to mean something even if it's a random scene.
Personally i would rank it very low, just above brave new world and love and thunder. (I haven't watched the marvels yet).
the director and whoever wrote it and whoever casted the team should never write or cast or direct ever again.
I believe most of you who liked the movie are comparing it to 2015's fantastic four and the past phase 5 movies and disney+ productions, so this probably looks like an S tier movie. But just take a moment to remember phase 3 movies, then compare this movie to half an hour of CACW or GOTG 2 or ragnarok or black panther, or even dr strange.
Anyways that is my own opinion, i stand by it and i respect yours.
Fans excuse me but i feel like i wasted 2h of my life i'm never getting back, nonetheless it was night time when i should be getting some sleep. The movie sucked for me.
First the cast:
who even told pedro pascal he could act? Seriously, i would like to meet the person who introduced him to hollywood or the one who casted him as a super genius scientist named "reed", he just doesn't have the vibes of a "reed richards", his acting skills are awfull, even seth rogen would make a better delivery than him, he's just not made for a superhero movie.
And vanessa kirby yelling "put down my son" felt like a familiar "i need you to give me the stone, what happened to it?" Energy. We just got our Gal gadot, congratulations. Don’t get me wrong she is a great actress but maybe the script didn't do her great, for example in that scene where she came out to give the speech it felt just off-putting and bizarre, it had no emotions, no sincerity, it felt awful and boring.
Joseph quinn felt like he was trying too much, which came out as awkward and unnatural and felt like acting, no immersion at all.
Ebon moss bachrach on the other hand was good acting, and the thing was very cool, but he had less screen time.
Overall the cast didn't have any chemistry between them, maybe the thing and johnny had some. But sue and reed felt awkward, sue and johnny was short lived and didn't feel like siblings. Most of the scenes between the 4 was johnny trying to say something and getting shut down by the rest of them or unecessary comedy quips that feels forced, you don't feel a humorous connection, chemistry or synergy between them.
The plot and pacing:
It felt rushed, wrongly executed and very fast paced.
So many plotholes and convient story telling moments, like shalla bala coming to warn earth didn't feel justified like with norrin radd, nor logical, it felt like she came just to conventionally let the plot happen, her timing (a long time before galactus would arrive), the way she warned them, the words she used, all felt like plot convenience.
reed felt like a super genius, an unexplained super genius who is just writing on a chalkboard, no realism, no stress, no mistakes and repeat, no doubt, no emotions unlike tony, banner or shuri who showed how genius they were and gave them scientifical depth.
They build multiples towers in idk how much time around the world which felt highly unrealistic even if their world is advanced, his science was pure trust me bro.
Space physics were slammed to the wall, the jumps, the speed of light field, the neutron star, how time works in space (which was disastrous to say the least), giving birth inside a moving space ship while floating in 2 min plot time.
using the neutron star energy to push themself was very cliché and unrealistic. nothing felt real or semantic in it.
johnny solving the language barrier and learning a whole planet story and her personal back story from just one sentence in an alien language nonetheless was the most lazy writing i've seen, the least they could have done was to try.
galactus and the silver surfur were pathetic, i mean is that a celestial? And a celestial level threat? really?! wanda wouldn't even give him a second, hell i'd say even ant man could beat him easily, he felt like a weird idiot who is easily fooled and lured, he took the bait faster than a fish. He felt like the usual villains you beat in the first 10 minutes of any superhero introduction, not threatening at all for a powerfull cosmic being. His few lines and dialogue felt so cliché, boring and unoriginal. Compare that to thanos or zemo or ultron or any past villain.
silver surfur sacrificing herself in the end felt so cliché and an "of course" moment.
the npc felt so cliché and stereotypical, like of course there will be a guy on tv saying they have to give up the child duh, that's like npc 101.
sue's speech to the public felt hollow and the public reaction was stupid and felt npc like.
Journalism, politics and the whole UN scenes felt like she hulk, unrealistic and far from politics real dynamic (what we've seen across the mcu mainly in CA trilogy which is very close to real world)
the world felt oddly utopian and unrealistic, the level of technology is stupid, unexplained and out of place there were no back story, no world building or introduction, no technologic realism like in wakanda, it felt like there was a huge gap between what they have and what they don’t.
the car scene where they were trying to attach the seatbelt felt out of place and just unecessary and the type of forced comedy and forced character dynamics they have been trying to do since it worked in ragnarok and gotg, they have failed miserably many times yet they keep trying to force it in every movie, they did it in endgame and it was slightly notoceable, then they went full power mode in love and thunder and redid it in she-hulk and now in F4.
the script and lines felt like the director turned on the camera went to the bathroom and told them to just not burn the place down and say whatever they want to the camera.
The music in almost every scene was awful. Not just “meh” actively off-putting and annoying. Wrong tone, wrong energy, wrong timing. It made already bad scenes feel even cheaper.
the cgi was awfull, the scene where ben meets his crush for the first time? He felt out of place, like he was a big toy put there or a ps4 scene in a CW show, galactus on earth too. It just felt like CGI. And before you come at me CGI is different than cinematic visuals and color grading, the visuals were great, not so great but great compared to other things in the movie.
Overally everything felt weird and cliché and stereotypical, even the shooting, because of course when sue comes back to life the camera would zoom in to her fingers moving, duh, classic.
the pacing of events, the scenes switching and passing of time was very awfully executed, it's like i was watching a youtube recap (i should have just watched that honestly), in one scene she's pregnant in the other she tells the group, in another she's 8 month pregnant, the baby is just born and suddenly in the next scene he's giggling and being old enough to be carried around. one moment thing has no beard in another moment he grew a full carpenter beard.
I don't know if this is the new marvel approach? because i picked a similar vibe in brave new world, or maybe i just got used to the slow burn of past movies? In the past, each scene was given its worth, each scene was allowed to breath to take its time, to mean something even if it's a random scene.
Personally i would rank it very low, just above brave new world and love and thunder. (I haven't watched the marvels yet).
the director and whoever wrote it and whoever casted the team should never write or cast or direct ever again.
I believe most of you who liked the movie are comparing it to 2015's fantastic four and the past phase 5 movies and disney+ productions, so this probably looks like an S tier movie. But just take a moment to remember phase 3 movies, then compare this movie to half an hour of CACW or GOTG 2 or ragnarok or black panther, or even dr strange.
Anyways that is my own opinion, i stand by it and i respect yours.
Commentaires
Typing all this and filling it with film criticism buzzwords while having no idea what they mean while still managing to give no insight at all.
You can not like a movie. But please stop trying to make your disliking it sound more informed or analytical than this hollow rant could possibly be.
You can hate some parts the movie
To our write say you hate everythint about it shows the problem is you not the movies