What If?…The MCU was reimagined after the Infinity Saga
MCU Reimagined
W/Black Widow in 2019 during Phase 3, Captain Marvel is moved to Phase Four plus a new version of Phase 4-6\*\*\*
PHASE ONE
1. Iron Man (2008)
2. The Incredible Hulk (2008)
3. Iron Man 2 (2010)
4. Thor (2011)
5. Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)
6. The Avengers (2012)
PHASE TWO
1. Iron Man 3 (2013)
2. Thor: The Dark World (2013)
3. Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)
4. Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)
5. Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015)
6. Ant-Man (2015)
PHASE THREE
1. Captain America: Civil War (2016)
2. Doctor Strange (2016)
3. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017)
4. Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017)
5. Thor: Ragnarok (2017)
6. Black Panther (2018)
7. Avengers: Infinity War (2018)
8. Ant-Man and the Wasp (2018)
9. Black Widow (2019)\*
10. Avengers: End Game (2019)
11. Spider-Man: Far From Home (2019)\*
End of INFINITY SAGA
\*same film as original with a few story changes and a different extra credit scene teasing Captain Marvel for “End Game”.
\*Twist reveal of Skrulls and Fury’s work with them. Captain Marvel answers questions raised from credit scene.
PHASE FOUR: Secret Invasion Saga
1. Captain Marvel (2020)
2. Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (2020)
3. Hawkeye movie (2020)
4. Captain America: New World Order (2021)
5. Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania (2021)
6. Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021)
7. Ms. Marvel (2022)
8. Doctor Strange: The Sorcerer Supreme (2022)
9. Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022)
10. The Marvels (2023)\*
11. Thunderbolts\*The New Avengers: (2023)
12. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 (2023)
13. Avengers: Secret Invasion (2024)
2019 and 2020: Kevin Feige announces new partners heading over certain Marvel Factions and Sagas. There will still be crossovers, but not everything is leading to ONE big story for all factions. But each Saga will have its main overarching story.
Mutant Saga: Apocalypse is the Saga’s main villain.
1. X-Men: Resurgence (2024)
2. The Scarlet Witch (2024)
3. Storm (2025)
4. X-Men: Extinction (2027)
5. Mystique (2028)
6. Nightcrawler (2028)
7. Cable (2029)
8. X-Men: Mutant Nation (2030)
9. X-Men: The Four Horsemen (2031)
10. X-Men: Age of Apocalypse (2032)
\+Supernatural Saga: Mephisto is the Saga’s Main Villain
1. Blade (2022)
2. Moon Knight (2023)
3. Doctor Strange and the Demon of Chaos (2025)
4. Captain America: Baron Blood (2026)
5. Blade: MI:13 (2026)
6. Ghost Rider (2027)
7. Bloodstone (2028)
8. Midnight Sons (2029)
9. Moon Knight 2 (2029)
10. Blade: Dracula’s Tomb (2030)
11. Ghost Rider 2 (2030)
12. Bloodstone 2 (2031)
13. Midnight Sons: Mephisto’s Deadliest Bargain (2032)
\^Multiverse Saga: Doctor Doom will by the Saga’s main villain
1. Loki: Disney+ TV series; 1 season, 12 episodes (2021)
2. Deadpool and Wolverine (2024)
3. Shang Chi and the Bride of Nine Spiders (2025)
4. Fantastic Four: First Steps (2025)
5. The Illuminati (2026)
6. Spider-Man: Brand New Day (2026)
7. Hulk Vs Wolverine (2027)
8. The Mighty Thor (2027)
9. Fantastic Four: The Kang Dynasty (2028)
10. Spider-Man: Darkest Day (2029)
11. The Illuminati 2 (2030)
12. Avengers: Doomsday (2031)
13. Avengers: Secret Wars (2034)
Disney+ Defenders/Street Reboot
1. Daredevil Born Again S1 (2025)
Would love to see what people think of this.
:) enjoy
W/Black Widow in 2019 during Phase 3, Captain Marvel is moved to Phase Four plus a new version of Phase 4-6\*\*\*
PHASE ONE
1. Iron Man (2008)
2. The Incredible Hulk (2008)
3. Iron Man 2 (2010)
4. Thor (2011)
5. Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)
6. The Avengers (2012)
PHASE TWO
1. Iron Man 3 (2013)
2. Thor: The Dark World (2013)
3. Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)
4. Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)
5. Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015)
6. Ant-Man (2015)
PHASE THREE
1. Captain America: Civil War (2016)
2. Doctor Strange (2016)
3. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017)
4. Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017)
5. Thor: Ragnarok (2017)
6. Black Panther (2018)
7. Avengers: Infinity War (2018)
8. Ant-Man and the Wasp (2018)
9. Black Widow (2019)\*
10. Avengers: End Game (2019)
11. Spider-Man: Far From Home (2019)\*
End of INFINITY SAGA
\*same film as original with a few story changes and a different extra credit scene teasing Captain Marvel for “End Game”.
\*Twist reveal of Skrulls and Fury’s work with them. Captain Marvel answers questions raised from credit scene.
PHASE FOUR: Secret Invasion Saga
1. Captain Marvel (2020)
2. Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (2020)
3. Hawkeye movie (2020)
4. Captain America: New World Order (2021)
5. Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania (2021)
6. Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021)
7. Ms. Marvel (2022)
8. Doctor Strange: The Sorcerer Supreme (2022)
9. Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022)
10. The Marvels (2023)\*
11. Thunderbolts\*The New Avengers: (2023)
12. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 (2023)
13. Avengers: Secret Invasion (2024)
2019 and 2020: Kevin Feige announces new partners heading over certain Marvel Factions and Sagas. There will still be crossovers, but not everything is leading to ONE big story for all factions. But each Saga will have its main overarching story.
Mutant Saga: Apocalypse is the Saga’s main villain.
1. X-Men: Resurgence (2024)
2. The Scarlet Witch (2024)
3. Storm (2025)
4. X-Men: Extinction (2027)
5. Mystique (2028)
6. Nightcrawler (2028)
7. Cable (2029)
8. X-Men: Mutant Nation (2030)
9. X-Men: The Four Horsemen (2031)
10. X-Men: Age of Apocalypse (2032)
\+Supernatural Saga: Mephisto is the Saga’s Main Villain
1. Blade (2022)
2. Moon Knight (2023)
3. Doctor Strange and the Demon of Chaos (2025)
4. Captain America: Baron Blood (2026)
5. Blade: MI:13 (2026)
6. Ghost Rider (2027)
7. Bloodstone (2028)
8. Midnight Sons (2029)
9. Moon Knight 2 (2029)
10. Blade: Dracula’s Tomb (2030)
11. Ghost Rider 2 (2030)
12. Bloodstone 2 (2031)
13. Midnight Sons: Mephisto’s Deadliest Bargain (2032)
\^Multiverse Saga: Doctor Doom will by the Saga’s main villain
1. Loki: Disney+ TV series; 1 season, 12 episodes (2021)
2. Deadpool and Wolverine (2024)
3. Shang Chi and the Bride of Nine Spiders (2025)
4. Fantastic Four: First Steps (2025)
5. The Illuminati (2026)
6. Spider-Man: Brand New Day (2026)
7. Hulk Vs Wolverine (2027)
8. The Mighty Thor (2027)
9. Fantastic Four: The Kang Dynasty (2028)
10. Spider-Man: Darkest Day (2029)
11. The Illuminati 2 (2030)
12. Avengers: Doomsday (2031)
13. Avengers: Secret Wars (2034)
Disney+ Defenders/Street Reboot
1. Daredevil Born Again S1 (2025)
Would love to see what people think of this.
:) enjoy
Commentaires
Moving Black Widow to Phase 3 and pushing Captain Marvel to Phase 4 fixes a lot of pacing issues around Endgame. The Infinity Saga feels way more focused, and the Skrull/Fury tease actually has time to breathe.
I really like how the post-Endgame era is split into clear sagas instead of everything forcing one big crossover. Apocalypse as the Mutant Saga villain, Mephisto for Supernatural, and Doom over Kang for the Multiverse all make a lot of sense and feel very comic-accurate.
Overall it feels more planned, more patient, and way closer to how Marvel stories work in the comics. I’d honestly love to see something like this play out.
It always baffled me that we got a Captain Marvel before a Black Widow solo film :( and I know it was politics in the studio and the sales of toys that held that at bay.
But “What if?”
The splitting of sagas came pretty easy to me that way introducing all these character for one large saga wouldn’t be a burden.
In the Secret Wars they could bring everyone in…but it may not be necessary with the Saga split I have here. :)
If it's a series, then sure, but Age of Ultron could have had an additional movie, but that would make it like Infinity War/Endgame in splitting a story in two bad guy wins at first then loses.
Age of Apocalypse, if given a nice budget and time for good development and a strong team to support it, it could make for a nice series
Thank you for the comment. It would be interesting if Age of Apocalypse was a series. In just not a fan of doing that so I hadn’t imagined that here.
The difference is what could have worked more effectively for the story, but thay changed with the pandemic. So of course we got mostly series post covid, and Loki was made well enough to warrant it being a season series. Not all of the other series worked at the same caliber, but again, with the pandemic, Marvel in a business first move did what they could to make more content (for better or worse) to make sure it didn't lose money as a company.
It's just considering what if they had a different story in place of Age of Ultron when it was like "Hey Ultron is here, oh now he's gone, oh well."
It’s a “fantasy” what if? What if everything lined up without those problems? You’re right the schedule couldn’t work with the pandemic going on. I agree. But I am clarifying I thought of that and chose to ignore that particular event just for the sake of this fun exercise.
Age of apocalypse happening after doomsday but before secret wars? Very interesting.
It should be noted I don’t have “treatments” for these yet….its just an outline.
I’d imagine the story of the “Four Horsemen” is Apocalypse being introduced and hunting his mutant leaders. It could be a race to save his chosen and end with those four choosing to join him.
Age of Apocalypse could be the story the X-Men having to face off with his chosen four and the big guy himself in a a new timeline.
Same as Mephisto’s Bargain in 2032…maybe a bargain changes the universe as a whole and they are reeling from that consequence…enter Doom and now everything is lined up for “Secret Wars….
That’s just my impromptu thoughts currently
Still, I love your ideas! Way to go!
a lot of these proposed projects would be doomed to fail and investor meddling would fuck everything up -- just like how it happened IRL.
as mike tyson famously said, "everyone has a plan until they get covid, scheduling delays, contract expirations, 20th draft script rewrites, increased demand from struggling fx studios, writers strikes, actors strikes, and racist fans whining about the woke mSHEu for yeeeeears.
It’s a What if?…