We should have had an Disney Plus X-man show on the new X-man before secret wars

So once the three main universes merge together in secret wars (the main MCU universe, the new X men universe and the fantastic four universe), the X men will officially be part of the MCU.

And we will most likely get introduced to the new X men universe charcters in secret wars but we should have had an X men series on these characters before we meet them in secret wars to be more interested and attached too them.

Instead of stuff like she hulk, we should have gotten a season or 2 of 8 or maybe 10 episodes focused on the new X men universe so that we are already introduced too them, focused primary on the big OG Xmen, on cyclops, jean, iceman, beast and professor X.

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rubyschnees2026-01-10 19:40

i forget sometimes how annoying x-men stans are

TipAdditional46252026-01-10 19:58

I'm far from an X men Stan, I'm not really happy that the next MCU saga is supposed to be mutant focused

Hyperbolicalpaca2026-01-10 20:20

You mean stans of like… half of marvel lol?

SuspiciouslyProRinna2026-01-10 20:28

I think an actual X-Men stan would know how to spell X-Men.

No_Imagination_24902026-01-10 19:41

My understanding is that the new, recast X-Men are being introduced after Secret Wars

TipAdditional46252026-01-11 01:48

Yes, introduced into the main MCU universe but we should have got too seem them in their own universe before...too get some bulid up

labbla2026-01-10 19:42

I wish Marvel never brought back the Fox X-Men. They should have created their own cool new version of the X-Men as soon as they were able. Dragging this out through two more Avengers movies is just exhausting. We should not still be using what Bryan Singer created.

TipAdditional46252026-01-10 19:44

Same it's just nostalgia bait rather the focusing on their current characters and making good charcters and stories

JazzminBoing2026-01-10 20:10

This right here. I loved those movies back in the day and don’t want to be sold on nostalgia only.

labbla2026-01-10 20:12

The Fox X-Men started when I was a teen and now I'm 40. I have no nostalgia because they keep coming back over and over again. Really just tired of all those people.

AdultSWIMDeep2026-01-10 20:21

Yes, let's have Professor Xavier and a whole school of mutants just pop up out of nowhere in the middle of the saga with no build up whatsoever. Do you not realize how bad that would be?

Superhumans have just been banned from acting in Hollywood in the MCU, the DODC are hunting down superhumans and will also appear in Brand New Day. They're clearly building towards the new X-Men arrival, they're not gonna rush it.

labbla2026-01-10 20:25

They've done it before with Eternals, Sorcerers, etc. Hell, Spider-Man wasn't a thing until he popped up in Civil War with some backstory. It's a fictional universe, anything is possible.

And you don't have to immediately do the school angle. The X-Men and Mutants have been used in all kinds of ways. Just use some creativity instead of always redoing what's been done before.

I'm just saying I would prefer something new over having the same X-Men from 2000 for the millionth time.

Loose_Concentrate3322026-01-10 20:42

Because they've done it before doesn't make it right. I hope people/organizations can learn from past mistakes.

labbla2026-01-10 20:57

So the MCU Spider-Man was a mistake? People seem really excited for that 4th one. There was a time when the MCU creating their own version of things was what people really wanted.

I bet people would have been disappointed if Andrew Garfield or Tobey were the main MCU Spider-Man.

Loose_Concentrate3322026-01-10 21:12

Don't put words in my mouth. You re being disingenuous to suggest that I was saying spider man was a mistake. After all, you also included the Eternals and Sorcerers in your post, which is what I was really referring to.

Spider man in civil war was appropriate for that moment in the story... They were expanding the MCU.

Shoe horning in the X-Men now would be a mistake when they are seemingly planning on shrinking the MCU.

labbla2026-01-10 21:15

You called everything I listed a mistake. I'm not sure how else you wanted me to interpret it and I made a big point of referencing Spider-Man.

Marvel was expanding the MCU until very recently. They made a Moon Knight thing and She-Hulk, etc. They introduced so many new characters in the last phases. I'm just saying they could have done that with some completely new version of Mutants.

Loose_Concentrate3322026-01-10 20:44

That makes no sense until you see the plot of the movie.

If the story is wiping out the multiverse, then it makes no sense to introduce new characters just before that.

implodingnerd2026-01-10 19:43

What are you on about? If people aren't invested in the X-Men after over 20-30 years of X-Men media, whether it be movies or cartoons, idk what to say.

TipAdditional46252026-01-10 19:46

Their invested in the original casts of the X-men from the FOX universe, not the MCU X-men, which will be with us post secret wars

implodingnerd2026-01-10 19:49

which will most likely all be recasts and we don't know how they're actually gonna introduce the new X-Men

CharacterOld86912026-01-10 19:43

A show centered around a B-tier character, like Forge would have been cool. Someone not immediately recognizable or associated with X-Men in the public awareness, who could travel between the movie universes, maybe built awareness of more mutant characters before Doomsday, met the Richards family, and maybe even be involved somehow in the incursions.

cPa3k2026-01-10 19:44

But we already met them… they are not new characters that need introduction

Edboy7962026-01-10 19:45

Ah yes, the one and only X Man

Also, weren't X-Men and F4 not both from 29th Century Fox?

And we also got X-Men 98, and I'm sure the rights to Fox characters hadn't fully transitioned in the time frame you're saying Marvel *should have* introduced new X-Men live action characters

The whole thing with the multiverse opened up the doors to being "legacy" actors in similar roles in recent time (Stewart as Xavier, Jackman as Logan, Reynolds as Deadpool (though legally distinct since he went the comic accurate route with the character, followed by Wolverine))

Hyperbolicalpaca2026-01-10 20:22

>and I'm sure the rights to Fox characters hadn't fully transitioned in the time frame you're saying Marvel should have introduced new X-Men live action characters

Disney got the rights back in 2019

If the movie comes out 2028, then it will have taken them **nine years** to introduce the xmen to the mcu lol

Edboy7962026-01-10 20:32

Right, I'm positive they did in 2019.

Do you know if that aquisition was put into effect immediately or did it take time to go into effect like some of these things usually go? That was more my point.

I don't see how they could have gotten the rights to the X-Men in 2019, and I assume you expected them to make a movie as soon as they got the rights, with all Marvel had going on and the time it takes to plan these things out, see who is available for casting, screen tests, fittings, delays/production hell, and the unforseen pandemic.

There was too many factors for the X-Men to come as soon as they were acquired.

You missed the part where I mentioned them bringing legacy characters into the fold like Xavier in Multiverse of Madness, way after 2019, and more recently Deadpool, Wolverine, and Beast as well as Fantastic Four aside from X-Men. But we're getting a number of the original cast back for Doomsday regardless, 2026, a bit sooner than 2028.

Also, as I mentioned in another post, where's Blade, they announced their lead how many years ago? And now that may not be happening.

kennyswallow2026-01-10 19:47

The first entry of the X-Men reboot should be released theatrically. None of the films that followed the events of Disney+ shows have been critical successes (aside from D&W) because a lot of the general audience either doesn't have Disney+ or don't have the time to watch the shows. This seriously hinders their ability to connect with the characters, which is especially important if the next saga is indeed the Mutant saga.

TipAdditional46252026-01-10 19:56

The shows are a way better medium to show the X-men, and a lot of the general audience does have disney plus, very few of them are MCU nerds and well if you can't be bothered to watch a show to fully understand a film that's on you.

Almost everything in life has some kind of pre prerequisites to understanding something (for example, you can't understand how a nuclear reactor really wors without understanding linear algebra), watching 3 or 4 shows on dieney plus ain't rocket science.

I took a big break from watching the MCU after endgame and didn't get back into it until 2023, it's really not hard to get disneyplus and catch up, its a piece of cake, it's like complaining that you don't understand things in house of dragon because you havent seen game of thrones, it's ridiculous

NicoleIlieva2026-01-10 20:21

Shows are a better medium, but movies make them more money. That's all.

Loose_Concentrate3322026-01-10 20:59

"...a lot of the general audience does have disney plus, very few of them are MCU nerds and well if you can't be bothered to watch a show to fully understand a film that's on you."

Hard disagree. If a studio wants a movie to truly succeed, they need the casual audience. Having to watch 8 hours of TV to follow a 2 hour movie is an incredibly bad ratio.

"Almost everything in life has some kind of pre prerequisites to understanding something (for example, you can't understand how a nuclear reactor really wors without understanding linear algebra),"

You're seriously going to compare career advancement to tv watching? Compare nuclear fusion to entertainment? Beyond ridiculous comparison. One can make some people unhappy, the other might result in Chernobyl. The stakes are beyond incomparable.

"I took a big break from watching the MCU after endgame and didn't get back into it until 2023, it's really not hard to get disneyplus and catch up, its a piece of cake".

Now it's not just one show, but multiples? Hard disagree again. Even Feige commented on the homework issue with the TV shows and how it's alienating some of the casual audience... That same audience that followed/supported the MCU for the first 20ish projects.

A TV show should expand on the movie after the fact (if at all), not be required viewing beforehand. They shouldn't really interact... Let TV be TV and movies be movies. Cameos are fine, like Murdock in Spider-Man.

You can bridge the gap in certain instances, so long as you don't bring the TV story into the movie. I'm hoping that's what punisher will do... Being in a character the TV audience will love, but without the TV plot which would require the movie going public to have watched to understand.

kennyswallow2026-01-10 23:32

I don't disagree with you that shows are a better medium for X-Men. I actually want almost every superhero saga to be made into shows. In my opinion, the MCU Spider-Man trilogy would have greatly benefitted from being a show. While this approach might not appeal to everyone, I know I'd definitely be watching each episode as soon as they come out with glee.

This issue here has to do with economics and audience sentiment. If we want these epic X-Men sagas to be adapted with the gravitas we expect, the studio first needs to make enough money to justify making these shows. The ways streaming services make money have multiple factors that Marvel Studios simply does not have control over. Even though Disney+ currently has millions of subscribers, it's become more and more difficult to retain them due to general decline in affordability of pretty much everything in life and the fact that there are thousands of other streaming services that are also trying to attract the attention of the general audience (of which a large population just don't have much time for entertainment). Also, if for some reason D+ doesn't make as much revenue one quarter, then the shows have a high chance of getting their budgets cut down, resulting in poorer quality shows and driving customers away from D+. This negative feedback loop will only hurt the films (which are historically the biggest source of income and where the grandest stories are told) if fundamental details about the MCU are expected to be revealed in the D+ shows.

If we want the X-Men to be done justice onscreen, we first need to be able to give the studio the resources neccesary to get it done.

(Also, there's a reason a lot of MCU fans aren't nuclear engineers)

Sentry-10002026-01-10 19:49

Well no because it's not going to do well, X-Men 97 done great viewership wise and is getting a s2 however I highly doubt they'd be bothered to give the budget and good writing to a live action X-Men show. If anything the new X-Men deserve to be introduced in solo movies and a team movie

Responsible-Middle352026-01-10 19:56

Maybe so. I made myself watch all the X-men movies on Disney+ this week thinking I'll be primed for the new stuff this year. I forgot just how bad the FOX movies were made. It was just drudgery watching them, and I like the X-Men! FOX just sucks. Marvel spoiled me.

Wooden-Radish-90082026-01-10 22:18

To be fair, some of them are pretty good. But during my watch through it was pretty crazy how 50 50 it is

Hyperbolicalpaca2026-01-10 20:20

I dont see why the xmen need to be from a different universe…

Just have it so there were some mutants, but very few, and they maybe didn’t even know there were others like them (so Charles, magneto, wolverine, mystique etc) until some big event (like, idk, the three snaps?) caused the number to increase.

One of the older mutants recognises this, and decides that there needs to be a place for all these young mutants to be able to live (like a school…)

The multiverse angle is just a bit confusing lol

Imagine though if instead of spending so much time establishing characters we aren’t gonna see again (like Shang chi…) or who they’re just gonna kill off (I mean what the fuck was taskmaster?) and setting up a team who will have aged out of their role by the time they make it (young avengers…) and that I can’t imagine anyone was clamouring for a movie of (thunderbolts, I know it’s popular, but…) they’d spent time establishing the xmen…

>Instead of stuff like she hulk,

The thing is she hulk would have been the perfect place to establish mutants, and they kinda almost did?

Like suddenly there’s all these people with powers who need legal representation, but where did they come from? The xgene hasn’t been discovered yet of course…

CyberKitten052026-01-10 23:54

I think generally the X-Men and Spider-Man work better in multiseason show format rather than movie format (F4 too depending on the story), but they're the biggest names and theatrical releases make the most money.