Fox's XMEN In Doomsday

This sub talked and ranted and yelled for months that fox's xmen were having their swan song and goodbye moment in deadpool and wolverine and they would be gone from the mcu. That their roles were more of a homage and they would be recast for the next avengers movie. There was such disdain in this sub for using fox's characters in this mcu.

Now that they are in doomsday its been radio silent.

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BatDubb2026-01-10 00:26

You have a selective memory.

Calligrapher_Antique2026-01-10 00:27

I'm still against it. I'm there opening weekend regardless but don't see a world where this makes much narrative sense. "Because nostalgia" is not a compelling story beat. Do we really need to see the Fox xmen killed off before we can introduce new ones? Seems like it would muddy the waters of the mutant sage and invite comparisons that don't need to be made.

I don't see how it can work but the Russos haven't let me down yet so they still got my benefit of the doubt

pigeonwiggle2026-01-10 00:36

i honestly can't see them backing down from it.

like, i think Marsden is cemented as Cyclops and that the new X-Men movie will be about a younger cast of young X-Men we haven't focused on yet.

i want to be wrong. i want them to prove that Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four weren't the only ones they were willing to recast -- but the fact there's no MCU F4 - that they have to bring them from another fucking universe???

i have ZERO HOPE for the x-men in the MCU now.

Z E R O

Caciulacdlac2026-01-10 00:28

By "this sub", you mean a very few people in a vast sea of users? This was definitely not a popular opinion, and it couldn't have been considering that the post-credits scene of The Marvels (which came out before Deadpool & Wolverine) all but confirmed the appearance of the classic X-Men in the next Avengers movie.

AsterArtworks2026-01-10 00:29

I’ve never heard that take but I’ve learned that people genuinely lack actually any imagination.

These people need to be shown, their minds literally can’t conceptualize it.

ROBtimusPrime19952026-01-10 00:31

People have taken that cute montage at the end waaaaay too close to heart.

Nobody ever said this, but people misinterpret the film.

DP & Wolvie was a swan song...for the shittiest parts of the Fox Marvel films (+ Blade).

Doomsday/Secret Wars is the actual swan song for the Fox X-Men films, done sincerely.

SirFlibble2026-01-10 00:31

And when the Wolverine and Deadpool movie came out, they did a montage at the end of all the movies as if it was their swan song.

We are not prophets. Doomsday was announced around the same time. It had not been written and filming was a year away from the announcement. How would the audience think the Fox X-Men would appear?

Also people said the X-Men would be recast for the MCU X-Men movies, not the next Avengers movie. Marvel wont launch the MCU X-Men in Avengers, they might include one character but not the whole team.

My prediction is the X-Men will be recast when the X-Men movie is made. The Fox universe will be destroyed in Doomsday or Secret Wars (along with all universes) and the post Secret Wars MCU will be a soft rebooted universe which is mostly the MCU with some changes and the X-Men will be entirely recast.

pigeonwiggle2026-01-10 00:39

why would you show off the x-men just to recast them?

how confusing is that? "you love this cyclops and wolverine, don't you?" "okay now here are a couple of different ones."

i don't see it happening, dude. i think xavier and magneto will die if they have to - we won't get new ones -- what xavier and magneto story do you want to see that they haven't done yet? running genosha together? you're gonna get that in Doomsday with Doombot Sentinels stomping them all out and Cyclops being unable to stop it losing his cool.

then we'll probably get Marsden as Cyclops returning to lead a new team of younger x-men.

Shadowcat, Jubilee, Quentin Quire, X-23, that sorta thing.

GarySoneji2026-01-10 00:45

Well, it *is* happening because Marvel Studios wants to make their own version.

pigeonwiggle2026-01-10 09:06

well they've the opportunity to and they are not taking it.

instead they're playing "celebrity cameo" games.

SirFlibble2026-01-10 01:05

Because the story of Secret Wars is about multiple universes being destroyed. We have already had references to this in MoM when they talk about the incursions.

From a story telling perspective, if you want to create a threat and connect emotionally with the audience, you want to use known characters and actors. Here we have the MCU, the FF universe, the X-Men universe that we have seen before and care about. It creates stakes.

What's more effective? Having worlds we know and love being imperiled, or just have the MCU and then show a bunch of imperiled worlds we've never seen before with weird versions of characters we know?

It's basic story telling and they give the Fox X-Men a specifically written ending, like they did with Wolverine rather than a montage to the 'Best time of our lives".

pigeonwiggle2026-01-10 09:06

yeah nothing says "let's give them one more sendoff" like showing them all getting killed as fodder for a new villain.

pigeonwiggle2026-01-10 00:33

oh i fucking hate that they're in doomsday.

what do you want me to say?

revolutionaryartist42026-01-10 00:38

What are you even talking about? We’ve known about the Fox actors coming back in Doomsday for a long time and most have been positive about them coming back for one last ride. One of the perks of the multiverse is we can see these actors have another bite at the apple.

Ranos1312026-01-10 00:41

What are you talking about? It’s been highly probable that the Fox X-men would be in Doomsday and/or Secret wars since Patrick Stewart hovered onto the screen in Multiverse of Madness. That started the hype and it’s done nothing but continue since. Kelsey Grammer in post credit of The Marvels and Wolverine and Gambit appearing in D&W just pushed it even further.

I have seen little ranting about the X-men being done and lots of people hyping and hoping about more of them appearing.

Is this rage bait or are you just this unobservant?

Sylar_Lives2026-01-10 05:21

I’ve still been seeing a pattern of people still denying they are the FOX X-Men.