Hot take: if we get a Thor 5, I think Kenneth Branagh should get to take over again.
Hemsworth wants serious Thor back, and most people do too. Let the man who started it finish it.
I'm watching highlights of the Infinity Saga with my 8 and 11 YO, and I don't think Thor 1 & 2's tone was appreciated as much as it should have been, especially with the future direction the MCU and Thor's arcs took.
For the record, I'm not mad at his arc, I think a multi-faceted Thor (or character, in general) is a good thing. But it's time to bring back the Gods in earnest.
Whatcha think? Who else would you like to see direct if not KB?
I'm watching highlights of the Infinity Saga with my 8 and 11 YO, and I don't think Thor 1 & 2's tone was appreciated as much as it should have been, especially with the future direction the MCU and Thor's arcs took.
For the record, I'm not mad at his arc, I think a multi-faceted Thor (or character, in general) is a good thing. But it's time to bring back the Gods in earnest.
Whatcha think? Who else would you like to see direct if not KB?
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I'd also like to see Jon Favreau at least help develop the script or something.
That mosaic of the First Jedi... You just know that there is a heartbreaking story behind that.
“Mangold tried!”
I would love Jon Favreau, the man
started MCU.
I don’t need something as goofy as Ragnarok or Love & Thunder, but I’d like Thor to get a more fun arc for his last outing.
Thor’s also the type of character that doesn’t need to be retired. Have him ascend to Odin level instead and just be a god that comes in from time to time to help the heroes. If Hemsworth doesn’t want to show up, just have folks pray to Thor and get lightning powers for a limited time. His presence is felt but he doesn’t need to show up.
Taika with Feige as an editor.
Ragnarok is the best Thor has been.
Ragnarok was good, but I think it would be nice to get a director who could write Thor more seriously than that.
He tried to make them Shakespearean which is both awful and just stupid.
So it's a matter if they both want it, just ease off the dutch angles this time around.
Then you may as well get some schmoe off the street to direct it.
Taika has made some good stuff. Jo Jo Rabbit, Hunt of Wilderpeople, What We Do in the Shadows. And even Ragnorok. There’s a reason he got hired again to Love and Thunder, it’s just they let him have to much leeway.
Im all for someone else directing the next Thor movie tho.
Thor: Ragnorak was largely written before Taika was hired, he basically auditioned to direct an already written script. That script was mostly Eric Pearson who most recently co-wrote Fantastic Four and Thunderbolts. Taika has no writing credits on it.
In contrast Taika negotiated to be the lead writer for Love and Thunder. That movie was purely him.
Guardians of the galaxy. Yeah, he can direct that.
Move away from Portmans corny friends, develop Malekith, and focus on the Loki/Thor dynamic, and you have a classic, IF you make sure we spend enough time with Frigga before her death. (Her funeral was one of the prettiest scenes in the MCU)
Make a nerdy powerful film instead of half stepping, & everyone is happy. Id rather see the MCU take a risk on that than invite Waititi to continue to make fun of the stories we love. Ragnarok was acceptable and hit a delicate sweet spot, but theres no reason to trust him again when everything he’s done has been ladled in the filter of pure concentrated comedy.
One of the main things I hope doesn’t change is fine ass Tessa Thompson. Do dramatic substantive Thor like the Russos, and redeem the character. Thats all Feige needs to oversee.
I mean unless you are implying the whole premise of the movie exists so Korg can make a joke.
Thor is nothing without Loki. If we get a Thor 5, we need an evil Loki to play in it. Not necessarily as the bad guy, but as the guy who's a foil to thor.
Thor works fine without Loki. They're a great dynamic, their relationship is essential, but Thor can work just fine without Loki.
winner winner chicken dinner
Taika could definitely still have a creative role, but he definitely needs a director with a distinct voice who can filter the absurdity and keep the good stuff like the colorful set pieces and some of the humor.
Bring back Alan Taylor!
If I were an exec, I’d at least hear out his idea & vision for the next. If it were a different direction from 4, I’d let him have it. If it’s clear he didn’t learn his lesson, however, then he never touches another MCU project ever again.
And Legacy actors, like Hemsworth, have a HUGE weight in the process for their projects.
I’m fine with it, just no more Dutch angles. That shit was too much
No character, especially a main character, should be one note. But they took all the wrong lessons from Ragnarok into L&T and then used him as a punchline for much of Endgame.
By surrounding Hemsworth with incredible acting talent, and making the film about fathers and sons as its theme, he elevated it way beyond the source material and also gave us two of the MCUs most enduring and popular character/actor combinations in Thor and Loki.
Also the fighting in the film is a little weird in some scenes? Like kind of slapstick sped up. Cap fighting Hydra soldiers in the bomb bays with the names painted on them comes to mind.
To younger people who have grown up with the MCU and Chris Hemsworth being one of the most beloved superhero stars in the world, it's hard to convey exactly how much of an uphill battle a Thor movie had to get made, and how incredible a job Kenneth Branagh pulled off
And Taika was solely responsible for undoing all the credit he'd earned with L&T.
it's not horrid, you might just not like it <3
They’ll make a dozen more silly comedic love and thunders before anything as boring as those movies again, because even if they aren’t cinematically great they are entertaining. They simply won’t make a movie like that again because they’d rather make money.
I saw every movie in theaters through Endgame. I was 18 when Iron Man 1 (which I saw 4 times in theaters) came out. Don't cite the deep magic to me, child.
My children are watching the movies we pick that I think are necessary to tell the story. Thor 1 and 2 are fantasy movies. Thor 3 and 4 are space operas. The problem is, we have a space opera franchise within the MCU already with Guardians. The MCU started thriving when they made genre movies that included comic characters, not comic book movies. Thor needs to be grounded back into his fantasy roots.
There's room for a serious, fantasy-driven Thor movie that still includes some humorous moments from the big man.
Yes, they're going to try and make money, that's what they do. The artists involved try to make art in spite of the studio's interference.
Nice try <3
Once again, it’s not a “nice try”. It’s a “they will never make those dry ass excuse of entertainment ever again” so good luck with that.
You saw the word highlights and seem to think I'm watching a YT super-cut. I'm sorry me using that word liberally is causing you some grief. We're watching the whole movie, if I think it'll hold their attention and it's important to the MCU Infinity Stones story.
I hope I don't have to keep explaining that to you <3
Also, you seemed to miss that I've been watching the MCU since the beginning. I saw every project in theaters the day/week they came out through Endgame. I lost interest around Loki Season 2 and have recently been catching back up.
Thor Ragnarök was a huge deviation from the prior two. By the end of that movie, it's fully a space opera. To the point where he's with the Guardians to start L&T. They just mashed them up, cause it was the same fucking tone for both. Ragnarok was fantastic, but the studio/Taika just saw Thor=Funny and ran with it in the wrong direction.
I'm actually enjoying this, thanks for the chat. \*kisses
I want someone new and someone who'll:
1- Make a good, serious story, with a serious Thor, taking inspiration from the "Ragnarok" storyline in the 2000s, with the Odinforce and Rune King stuff, or at least a storyline about the Elder Gods and Thor's real mother, Jord;
2- Make amazing action scenes, like the ones from Ragnarok and Infinity War, but not the ones from L&T or Thor 2;
3- Has Thor defeating the villain in the end 1v1.
He'd rock the fuck out of a Thor movie.
Ragnarok is the best Thor movie by miles. It isn’t even close. Taika Waititi should be allowed to have another go if he wants to. If not and you wanna go more serious again, i wouldn’t be going back to a previous guy.
Thor V: Valhalla
Kenneth: How dare you!
Thor 1 is his near-ascension to the throne, and all the reasons he isn't ready. Thor 5 (with KB back) could be that final ascension. King Thor with all the wit and charm he's learned as coping mechanisms for loss, coupled with the gravity the first two had, especially the Asgardian scenes.
That sort of tale can't return now that Thor has lost nearly everything. Maybe Branagh could come back, but what sort of story could he do?
Or, his final ascension as King of Asgard. This would pull back in Valkyrie and New Asgard on earth.
I miss the Gods feeling like Gods though.
My preference would have been Sam Mendes but he's busy with the Beatles films. Hemsworth reportedly wants Sam Hargreaves, who did Extraction. If the Russos produce and Markus and McFeely write it, Hargreaves would be awesome.
That first Extraction film feels like actual storytelling and character work through the action. Giving you a full emotional journey through action scene after action scene. I think that would be PERFECT for Thor 5.
(Or keeping it in the Russos family, how about The Daniels?)
And I disagree, it's the best take we got on the Gods short of the little blips in Ragnarok with Anthony Hopkins.
If we get Thor 5, they should let George Miller do it.
The film would be 90 minutes of absolute nonsense, and would be the best movie Marvel have ever released.
Yeah, Sator could give back some seriousness. But, the best Thor were the ones with Loki present. Maybe two movies, end the first with Thor finding a lot of Lokis, and the second finding the one of the series.
I’m sorry but that movie imo is unwatchable.
The amount of dutch angles are insane. You literally have to break your neck to watch that movie.
If he were to direct another movie, I really hope he changed his directing style
Like...it's not just Thor. Sitting through JoJo Rabbit was torturous!
I just can't deal with the constant emotional ping-ponging of his movies, and often its in the same scene!
When Peter freaking Quill was the voice of logic and telling Thor to GTFO, I knew I'd hate the movie.
It seems that Marvel's intention post-Secret Wars is to take the MCU in a different direction, so I wouldn't be surprised if SW is the swansong for any OGs left.
Also, the teaser with Thor for Doomsday had him praying to the All-Father for the strength to fight "one more enemy" which kinds of sounds like this is going to be his last hurrah.
Thor 2 suffered from Feige and his team wanting to capitalize on Loki's new found popularity mid production. They should have waited.
I'd be down for Branagh. [+]