Regarding Concerns of DOOM being a Variant of... What if... ? (Endgame spoilers)
**TLDR:** What if this really is the sequel to Avengers: Endgame?
( And note, I **LOVE** and prefer Victor Von Doom, so this isn't THAT kind of post! )
What if the character known as "Doom" featured in the upcoming film is... actually the Tony Stark born into the 1970's universe featured in Endgame, where our "616" Tony and Steve accidentally changed the way that universe was going to play out?
Granted, Avengers Time Travel is weird because it's non linear, and can be explained to those who embrace the concept as "traveling to locations set in the past, whose futures can be changed and thus stem off from the portions of time they previously existed as, without changing your unique existence and history because it already occurred in another universe set whenever it was set."
But it seems like by helping that 1970's universe (especially if the universe in which Cap went back at the end of Endgame to live a happy life is a 1940's past universe of the 1970's past universe they visited), Cap may also have had a hand in derailing the future or existence for that unborn Tony Stark. There's also a version where because that universe is altered, then you have a Tony enter into a void where he's unable to return to a 616 and thus keeps working.
**"DIFFERENT MASK. SAME TASK."**
Suddenly, makes a lot of sense, and continues the narrative the MCU has had irrespective of comic influences, while being able to have a little fun with the scraps that aren't making the dinner table. (Kang Dynasty plot points, etc.)
You have a lot of malleability in terms of plot direction, but to make this a satisfying "sequel" to Endgame while also putting a bow on everything else... I feel like not only could Doom be a Tony Stark variant, it's probably the most notable one they never showed.
And then for the Comic readers in the room... You just basically make "Time Runs Out" with the Fantastic Four, X-Men and Avengers arguing instead of 1610/616 being the last two standing.
( *... Still figuring out if they are using Franklin as Molecule Man...* )
( *... Or if we can get a Loki Season 3 after Secret Wars and they merge all reality so time travel becomes meaningful in the traditional sense and we have a new reason for the TVA and Loki no longer has to hold a multiverse together...* )
( ... *Or if we can salvage any Iron Lad plot points with a young Tony Stark variant who is the 1970's variant in an earlier point in his life before he went all Doomsday...* )
( ... *Or if we can keep RDJ Doom post Secret Wars under something like the All-New All-Different Marvel Doom Run...* )
( And note, I **LOVE** and prefer Victor Von Doom, so this isn't THAT kind of post! )
What if the character known as "Doom" featured in the upcoming film is... actually the Tony Stark born into the 1970's universe featured in Endgame, where our "616" Tony and Steve accidentally changed the way that universe was going to play out?
Granted, Avengers Time Travel is weird because it's non linear, and can be explained to those who embrace the concept as "traveling to locations set in the past, whose futures can be changed and thus stem off from the portions of time they previously existed as, without changing your unique existence and history because it already occurred in another universe set whenever it was set."
But it seems like by helping that 1970's universe (especially if the universe in which Cap went back at the end of Endgame to live a happy life is a 1940's past universe of the 1970's past universe they visited), Cap may also have had a hand in derailing the future or existence for that unborn Tony Stark. There's also a version where because that universe is altered, then you have a Tony enter into a void where he's unable to return to a 616 and thus keeps working.
**"DIFFERENT MASK. SAME TASK."**
Suddenly, makes a lot of sense, and continues the narrative the MCU has had irrespective of comic influences, while being able to have a little fun with the scraps that aren't making the dinner table. (Kang Dynasty plot points, etc.)
You have a lot of malleability in terms of plot direction, but to make this a satisfying "sequel" to Endgame while also putting a bow on everything else... I feel like not only could Doom be a Tony Stark variant, it's probably the most notable one they never showed.
And then for the Comic readers in the room... You just basically make "Time Runs Out" with the Fantastic Four, X-Men and Avengers arguing instead of 1610/616 being the last two standing.
( *... Still figuring out if they are using Franklin as Molecule Man...* )
( *... Or if we can get a Loki Season 3 after Secret Wars and they merge all reality so time travel becomes meaningful in the traditional sense and we have a new reason for the TVA and Loki no longer has to hold a multiverse together...* )
( ... *Or if we can salvage any Iron Lad plot points with a young Tony Stark variant who is the 1970's variant in an earlier point in his life before he went all Doomsday...* )
( ... *Or if we can keep RDJ Doom post Secret Wars under something like the All-New All-Different Marvel Doom Run...* )
Commentaires
I think between the recent comics (One World Under Doom, Ultimate Endgame) they've been prepping "Doom's power grows from children" and "Doom isn't who you think he is" for about 2 years by the time we get the film, and it wouldn't be the first time MARVEL was rewriting status quos in comics to coincide with what's going up on screen.
Rather than drag down someone else's concerns, what do you think we're getting (as opposed to what we all want, real Doom?) Please, by all means, bro, tell us your thoughts.
**EDIT:** Ah. Nevermind. I see that this is just what you do. Lots of being curt and judgmental to anyone who *dares* to have an opinion on a comic book movie that don't line up with your own.
Kindness is free, buddy. You can afford it.
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