What's even left for them to do with Steve Rogers at this point?

I'm not trying to be Mr. Cynical who comes along and stomps on everyone's fun, but I just feel like there's nothing left for them to do with Steve now. They're obviously bringing him back for the nostalgia and to create hype for these movies, but it doesn't feel like there's any good story-based reasons for ruining his existing character arc and bringing him back.

Throughout the course of The Infinity Saga, Steve has....

* Had a whole trilogy of solo movies
* Led The Avengers 4 times
* Said "Avengers, Assemble!"
* Had many different costumes from the comics
* Wielded Mjolnir
* Interacted with tons of different heroes (Iron Man, Spider-Man, Thor, Hulk, Wanda, Black Widow, Guardians of The Galaxy, etc.)
* Appeared in 9 MCU movies over the span of 8 years
* Given the shield to Sam and declared him the new Captain America
* Had his happy ending with Peggy

What can they possibly do in 'Doomsday' and 'Secret Wars' that will make it feel like it was worth ruining his happy ending?

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th30be2026-01-02 19:45

IDK dude, I would have liked to see Captain Hydra. Its a multiverse movie so whatever goes.

texasfight19872026-01-02 20:06

They kind of did a not to that already when he said Hail Hydra and he left the elevator without a fight

tcguy712026-01-02 19:47

I think the Russo brothers must have figured something out or they wouldnt have brought him back...

PotentialAnt96702026-01-02 19:59

They figured that this will bring people back because it's safe and comfortable. Same with RDJ as Doom. Same with the decisions to bring back actors from the older films. It's safe and comfortable because the nostalgia makes it so. And evidently...it makes money.

JamJamGaGa2026-01-02 20:51

That's my only hope at this point. Chris Evans was asked for years if he would ever return as Cap and he kept rejecting the idea because of how perfect the character's ending was. For him to come back and ruin Endgame, you'd think they must have come up with a really good story-based reason for his return.

...or they just offered him a lot of money and he couldn't refuse.

tcguy712026-01-02 22:50

I think Chris cares enough about Steve that he wouldnt comeback unless he loved the story they were going to do.

FigureArty2026-01-02 19:48

Steve Rogers Director of SHIELD

Alpha_Storm2026-01-02 20:44

Exactly! Steve's done other things than Captain America.

marvelcomics222026-01-03 02:48

That's Mack's job.

sweens902026-01-02 19:50

Nothing. Disney is forcing it for money

ubutterscotchpine2026-01-02 20:10

Yup. Couldn’t commit to their new characters and were pressured by insufferable fanboys.

JamJamGaGa2026-01-02 20:49

I know, but you would still expect them to have a good story reason for bringing him back.

Tobey and Andrew were also only brought back so the studio(s) could make a bunch of money, but they still came up with interesting character arcs for them that felt very fitting. It didn't FEEL like a cheap gimmick. It felt right.

justseeby2026-01-02 19:50

Diaper changes. Little cuddles. Smelling the baby’s head. “I could do this all day. Yes I could! YES I COULD! MWAH MWAH MWAH WHO’S DADDY’S LITTLE SUPER BABY, HUH?”

UchihaSukuna12026-01-02 19:58

😂😂 And the kid grows up to be McKenna Grace and he says "Go to college, cause you are....

Gifted!"

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Kale_Sauce2026-01-02 19:55

You mean to tell me a comic book superhero kept being in stories after a satisfying conclusion?

Noooooo waaaaayyy

JamJamGaGa2026-01-02 20:45

I know it's not surprising, but that doesn't mean we should just accept it lol. We can still criticize the decision to bring him back.

The "consume, consume, consume" mindset will get you nowhere.

Educational-Oil-14972026-01-02 19:55

I think we need to just see the movie before making that call, honestly. If it’s written well and comes to a solid conclusion either way then I don’t care.

If it’s poorly written and feels shoe horned then that’s a good time to begin complaining.

JamJamGaGa2026-01-02 20:53

Idk, I think we can definitely start discussing it now. I mean, if there was a good reason for bringing him back then I wouldn't be concerned about it. Thing is, his ending was absolutely perfect. No notes. It was a gorgeous way to conclude his storyline. It brought everything full circle.

I have no clue what they could possibly add in Doomsday that would make it feel like "ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, THAT'S why they brought him back! this makes his previous ending even better!!"

pinguin_skipper2026-01-02 19:55

They will bury him next to Peggy at the end of Secret Wars.

thainfamouzjay2026-01-02 19:57

Hydra cap

JamJamGaGa2026-01-02 20:53

But what would that add to his existing character arc? how would that enhance his ending in Endgame?

jeridmcintyre2026-01-02 19:59

⁠Had his happy ending with Peggy

This is probably the reasons for the incursions.

JamJamGaGa2026-01-02 20:50

Probably, but I'm wondering how his return will add anything to his already completed character arc.

SpankyDomingo2026-01-02 20:01

You know there’s at least 60-plus years of stories for them to get ideas from. Right?

JamJamGaGa2026-01-02 20:44

You know I'm specifically referring to the MCU version of the character, right?

SpankyDomingo2026-01-02 21:59

You know I’m referring to where they’ve already gotten ideas from. Right?

Cap’s origin, Robert Redford’s character in The Winter Soldier, bringing Bucky back AS The Winter Soldier, Civil War, Ultron, and many more. All those ideas and characters came from the comics.

EDPZ2026-01-02 20:01

We could have him get assassinated and properly do a big death event.

leuno2026-01-02 20:05

There's one thing they haven't done with him. Something that would get the world to unite against dr. doom.

Kill him.

If he was really going to be IN the movie, they wouldn't need to spoil his presence in the first trailer. We're already hyped enough from RDJ returning. They showed him in the first trailer to get us hyped about something they will take away from us.

FFBIFRA2026-01-02 20:16

the rumor seems to be a lot of those returning characters won't survive this movie.

Ok-Average-64662026-01-02 20:07

It fits this because it is nostalgia bait. The real issue is the poor job they did after Endgame setting up their successors. Hopefully Doomsday sets up a proper goodbye to most of these actors and Secret Wars can be a proper passing of the torch moment.

Subtleiaint2026-01-02 20:08

It's simple, the new characters aren't as popular and we've seen how lucrative nostalgia is.

I'm in two minds, I think he had a near perfect run up to Endgame and he's my favourite character so I'm stoked he's back. However every further appearance risks tarnishing that run. If Doomsday sucks I'm going to wish he stayed away.

Funmachine2026-01-02 20:10

Honestly, I think people are expecting him to be in it more than he is. Thor's trailer had shots from multiple scenes, with Thor talking new dialogue and a new look. Steve's trailer has no dialogue from Steve and looks to be all from the same sequence set in the past, probably a montage sequence that shows what happened after he returned to Peggy.

Chaoticgood7902026-01-02 20:19

People act like cap is a main character. Just because he might be the catalyst doesn’t mean he has significant screen time

JamJamGaGa2026-01-02 20:54

They ain't paying Evans all that money to come back for a cameo lol.

Chaoticgood7902026-01-02 21:56

They absolutely would lol

75Coop2026-01-02 20:19

Lots of time passes between returning the stones and returning the shield. The kind of time that can create an incursion.

Ok_Exit57782026-01-02 20:20

I’m actually with you. I have no doubt they could tell hundreds more stories, but I feel like he got the service he deserved and this is only going to undermine building a new team of interesting people.

MrFiendish2026-01-02 20:31

They could always recast the role and bring back Captain America.

Alpha_Storm2026-01-02 20:36

He didn't really have a trilogy. Civil War was taken over by Iron Man, he had as much screentime and more dialogue AND the Russo's literally said they were aiming for a 50/50 split with the test audiences. What other solo hero had to share their final solo film with another character where the sim was basically to make the other character as much if not more "sympathetic?

None of them, just Steve.

And his "happy ending" was completely out of character (and actually I sort of hate that, they had him do something completely and utterly out of character and now what? They're going to blame him for it? Somehow make this all his fault?). But none the less it was out of character, so there isn't any particular reason he should get to keep it. One would have hoped they did it sympathetically or turned it on it's head(he didn't actually go with Peggy, they just danced to get closure, and then something else happened that kept him from getting home but Old Steve from the future at the end of Endgame knew it would all turn out relatively all right(from the future because the serum makes Steve age very slowly, he could theoretically live at least a few hundred years, meaning Old Steve actually would have come back from the future to give Sam the Shield).

As for Sam, Steve Rogers is coming back, he doesn't need to be Captain America. Sam can still be Captain America. It's happened plenty of times in the comics.

JamJamGaGa2026-01-02 21:02

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He didn't really have a trilogy. Civil War was taken over by Iron Man, he had as much screentime and more dialogue AND the Russo's literally said they were aiming for a 50/50 split with the test audiences. What other solo hero had to share their final solo film with another character where the sim was basically to make the other character as much if not more "sympathetic?

>None of them, just Steve.

Yes, he did have a trilogy. That's an objective fact. You can hate Civil War all you want, but it was a Captain America movie. Steve and Bucky's relationship was the catalyst for the whole storyline, and Evans had the most screentime of anyone. Sure, it feels in many ways like an Avengers 2.5, but it was a Captain America film.

>And his "happy ending" was completely out of character (and actually I sort of hate that, they had him do something completely and utterly out of character and now what? They're going to blame him for it? Somehow make this all his fault?). But none the less it was out of character, so there isn't any particular reason he should get to keep it.

The whole point of his ending was that it was out of character. In the first Avengers movie, Steve told Tony he wasn't the kind of guy who would lay down his life for others and Tony told Steve that everything special about him came from the serum. In the end, they both proved each other wrong (Tony made the ultimate sacrifice and Steve was worthy to hold Mjolnir). Tony also told Steve to get a life, which Steve did by going back to the 40s and being with Peggy ("I got some of that life Tony told me about"). After Endgame, his mission was completed and he decided to finally do something selfish for once. He had changed from beginning to end, which is what we call a character arc.

-Darkslayer2026-01-03 22:50

Glad someone else agrees it was massively out of character for Steve. It would have made way more sense for Steve to die and Tony to retire. The Iron Man death was disappointing to me as well, because it was a repeat of the end of Avengers 1. It didn't tell us anything new about Tony. Not sure you get there though as Steve doesn't have the tech to do the Iron Gauntlet snap

Patsx5sb2026-01-02 21:06

The Characters of the in the Avengers (Ironman, Captain America, Hulk, Thor) fucking Print Money. They need him.

JyconX2026-01-02 23:13

To show that him staying the past still had negative consequences as well, related to the reasons for Doom wanting to take control of the multiverse.

Grayx_28872026-01-03 08:24

I have no idea. If this is their way of retconning the ending of Avengers: Endgame, then I ain't gonna like it. Just leave Steve Rogers alone and start giving Sam Wilson a **FAR BETTER** movie where he actually is accepting the mantle of Captain America none of that second thought bullshit from *"Falcon and the Winter Soldier."*

Ultron_Sentry_092026-01-03 20:26

Bring him back to me for a rematch

sanddragon9392026-01-03 21:05

Have you watched the teaser? There's a pretty BIG clue there as to what *new* angle they're gonna be exploring with him...