What would Civil War with a reduced role for RDJ have looked like?

The Variety article confirming RDJ for Civil War says that Ike Perlmutter pushed for a much smaller role that would’ve only required him to film 3 weeks. While that’s more than a cameo, it’s still only a handful of scenes at the most. My question to all of you is how do you think Civil War with Tony in a small role would play out?

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crasherdgrate2026-01-02 09:02

Probably a little more than Homecoming but less than what it eventually turned out.

Ambitious-Pirate-5052026-01-02 10:14

Perlmutter is a stain on Marvel

Thanatos_562026-01-02 10:15

And a racist to boot.

😡

spidervenom6192026-01-02 10:28

Also a Sexist as well lol.

spidervenom6192026-01-02 10:28

Racist Sexist asshole ruined Phase 1 Natasha for me, she was supposed to be so much more then she was.

Tamriel-Chad-4202026-01-02 15:24

Wait do tell. Did Natasha have a bigger role that was cut down?

Agathario-10312026-01-02 15:59

Apparently he was a big part of the reason it took so long to get a Black Widow solo movie bc he thought superhero movies with female leads weren't profitable for merchandising 🙄

spidervenom6192026-01-02 17:30

Also the fact that Nat was originally going to be involve somehow in every single Phase 1 film except for Thor (because she couldn't be at two places at once), she was working behind the scenes in Maibu for Hammer during Iron Man 1 keeping a eye on Tony, Iron Man 2 and Avengers are self-explaintory as she a major player in both of those films, in Hulk she was keeping a eye on the Leader and even Banner to a extent which the Tie-in comic "Fury's Big week" explain, and in Captain America 1 she was supposed to be that Shield nurse that first wake up Steve at the end of the film but it's rumor that Perlimutter axe that cause "Girl's Toys don't sell".

Ambitious-Pirate-5052026-01-02 20:55

Yes he was a whole bag of crap.

spidervenom6192026-01-03 07:31

Understatement of our of all lifetimes lol. Dude is the worst thing that ever happens to Marvel.

Chapek and Perelman wish that they can be that bad. The only good thing that Perimutter did was finishing the deal with Disney. Other then that, he needs to be left in the past for good and never ever ever come back.

Player2LightWater2026-01-06 05:48

He wanted Inhumans movie as a replacement for X-Men and mutants in MCU because of Fox owning the movie rights to X-Men at that time before Disney bought Fox. Inhumans became a TV show instead and it's terrible. He also didn't want Black Panther and Captain Marvel too because he thinks no one wants minority and female superhero movies.

Ambitious-Pirate-5052026-01-06 07:15

Yeah, I remember that last bit. 2 billion later.

richard-5642026-01-09 09:50

Feige wanted a Black Widow movie in phase 1, as well as Capter Marvel and Black Panther getting movies in phase 2. Perlmutter said POC and women don't sell toys, so we didn't get those movies till way later, once Feige took over.

eltrotter2026-01-02 11:06

They would have had to find someone else to take Tony's role, since it's such an important role in the story. I guess the obvious candidate would probably be Rhodey since he's a military man and was very closely aligned with Tony. Then Tony would probably just turn up for the airport fight only. They would have had to contrive a different reason for the 1 vs 2 fight that is the climax of the film.

Obraxiss2026-01-02 11:51

I heard somwhere that Ruffalo was the backup incase they couldn't get RDJ onbord, so I would imagne they would just say they found the quinjet somewhere and recovered him,

Jenkes_of_Wolverton2026-01-02 12:23

Aye that would work. Or like Ross said, they also didn't supposedly know where Thor was, so they were teasing him too.

Soulwarfare422026-01-02 12:38

1. Russos would leave and a new director would come in and just do Serpent Society instead of Civil War?

2. They will have Iron Man for the airport fight and final fight and Sokovia discussions and that's it. The Spider-Man scene will be given to someone else, Happy Hogan most likely. Any scene involving Robert not in the suit and talking will likely just be cut or given to someone else

repooc212026-01-02 13:13

If I recall correctly, it was going to be a sequel to Winter Soldier. Sam and Steve go on the hunt for Bucky. Now I don't know if it was still Bucky getting framed and they're trying to save him, but I would assume so.

Civil War wasn't bad. I was pissed for a while because, as I understand it, RDJ highjacked the movie. It was going to be Captain America 3 but he threatened to never come back.

But seeing as how the Infinity Saga wrapped up, it worked out.

Hanzzman2026-01-02 13:31

we would get the same scenes when he shows them the accords, nobody special is at the airport, there is no spiderman or he is recruited by Happy... we need someone for the final fight against the captain tho.

Probably Cap releases people from the raft or Bucky is in the raft and tells cap about the other supersoldiers, fly to russia, have a short fight with Zemo, and Zemo shows him that he killed all supersoldiers, except one, then fight with help from Bucky, then end with him leaving avengers compound.

Tony has some scenes on TV condemning Cap actions, but he is the one who sends Cap the clamshell phone. "I wanted to send you a more modern phone, but i thought you would be more comfortable with this one. this has the snake game!"

Alpha_Storm2026-01-02 14:43

It would actually been Steve's film and focused on him which would have been nice.

DRM14122026-01-02 15:16

It would’ve probably been closer to an actual Cap 3 than Avengers 2.5

BIGBMH2026-01-02 16:19

I think they’d have to beef up Ross’s presence as the leader Cap butts heads with on the Accords side. Rhodey would be bumped up to field leader.

I could see Tony choosing to stay out of it. We see an early scene with him trying to play peacemaker, not joining up with the accords but telling Steve this may be how it has to go. Rhodey still gets hurt and Ross uses that to get Tony fired up. So in the climax, we still get Tony coming after Steve but more to avenge Rhodey.

Essentially 3 scenes with a far less rich role, but carefully utilized to get to a similar end of being on the outs with Steve.