What shows are necessary for the the MCU post secret wars and in the next 2 avengers films and to understand Doom and the plot as a character ?

What shows are necessary for the the MCU post secret wars and in the next 2 avengers films and to understand Doom and the plot as a character but also future mcu films that come after secret wars ?

'Ive seen all the films apart from the marvels

And ive seen wanda-vision,loki,cap and falcon,hawkeye and moonkight

I have also seen all the OG xmen films and blade and the rest of the non spiderman films (spiderman 1, spider man 2, spiderman 3 and the amazing spiderman and blade, x men 1, xmen 2, xmen 3, x men days of the future past, x men apocalypse, x men first class, x men orgins wolverine, the wolverine and logan)

I've also seen some of the old animated spiderman cartoons on YouTube when I was young, I remember the one with the man bad thing and the other one where the hydro man or wate dude or whatever his name is comes back with marry jane

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eagc72026-01-02 03:53

Well for Doom, nothing, Doomsday is his introduction he makes a cameo in Fantastic Four, but no dialogue, we don't even see his face. The reason for this is because they were originally building up to Kang the Conqueror as the big bad of Avengers 5 and 6, but the actor got into some legal troubles, Ant-Man 3 underperformed and wasn't beloved, so they decided to scrap that storyline and shift focus to Doom at the very last minute.

But right now

Right now based on what we know.

1. WandaVision (mostly because of Doctor Strange 2)

2. Falcon and the Winter Soldier

3. Loki S1,

4. Black Widow,

5. Shang-Chi

6. Eternals (Solely because of Captain America 4)

7. Spider-Man: No Way Home

8. Hawkeye (solely for the ending of The Marvels)

9. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness

10. Ms. Marvel (Solely for The Marvels)

11. Thor: Love and Thunder

12. Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

13. Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania (Maaaaaybe, the Kang story may be dropped but i'll leave this just in case since Ant-Man will still be part of Doomsday)

14. Loki S2

15. The Marvels

16. Deadpool and Wolverine

17. Captain America: Brave New World

18. Thunderbolts

19. Fantastic Four.

These would be the ones so far that are tied to Doomsday or some of the overall Multiverse related stories, but do note that since we haven't seen Doomsday, there is always the chance stuff like say What If, Echo, Secret Invasion, Agatha, Guardians 3, Daredevil, etc could wind playing a part in the story

indeedy712026-01-02 09:04

I’d be shocked if Agatha doesn’t have some impact, because they’d have to ignore its importance for one very popular character and another character whose actor has already said they’re in Secret Wars

TipAdditional46252026-01-02 13:09

What about for doomsday/secret wars? Also, I've seen all of the list apart from the marvels and Ms Marvel

eagc72026-01-02 21:25

This is the list for what to watch before Doomsday (again based on what we know at the moment) its a bit early for a Secret Wars watch list considering we know next to nothing about it.

SeekerVash2026-01-02 15:45

Probably none of them.

Disney has acknowledged that tying the movies to the shows hurt the box office. On top of that, Doomsday now has to be made with the assumption that most of the general audience hasn't watched much or any of the post end game content.

So it's likely that Doomsday won't reference anything from the shows at all. They don't want the general audience to think they have to watch like 10 seasons of TV shows to be able to see Doomsday.

In fact, I strongly suspect that the Loki in Doomsday won't have anything to do with the show.

Safe-Finding-43762026-01-02 17:25

Theres no world in which loki has nothing to do with his very successful and beloved show. Especially given where he was left off it needs to connect to that. Also they very much seem to not mind connecting, look at spider-man for example. Punisher and rumored are the hand and claire temple both not even from current shows but way back to the netflix era. Not to mention doctor strange 2 connected to a show and it didnt hurt the box office at all. Films like the marvels were far more impacted by the strike and there's no evidence to suggest brave new world was hurt by the falcon and the winter soldier. Especially given how marvel always provides the required information to understand the film in the film in question

SeekerVash2026-01-02 19:32

I think "very successful and beloved" is a pretty strong position.

It had 10.9 million views. Fallout had 65 million in two weeks. Wednesday had 119 million views.

Loki did ok, it was not a big success and was low by industry standards.

The Marvels wasn't impacted by the strikes. That's mythology social media created to avoid dealing with the fact that no one was interested in it. The very talented team at Disney assessed things and determined that they weren't going to get a better result by waiting, they chose not to delay.

The fact that The Marvels only had about 5.5 million views on Disney+ demonstrates that no one wanted to see it.

Safe-Finding-43762026-01-02 19:53

Bro what?? The film released in November 2023. The strike went from july to November. Guess when their prime marketing window is? Like it or not it was impacted by the strike. So was blue beetle. Shocker marketing is important.
And loki received nothing but high praise and with great reviews. Successful enough that the TVA yknow the group and setting introduced in Loki, were a main setting in deadpool & wolverine. Which shocker did quite well. So why you think they wont address this in avengers is baffling

Jenkes_of_Wolverton2026-01-03 09:24

I can't speak for other people, but my local Cineworld got closed down and now I don't have nearby alternatives. So after a few months of waiting I bought the DVD. Streaming is not the only option. IMO it's The Marvels which has been visually and narratively the most important recent release. BNW and F4FS have a few key bits to help further embellish the overall arc, but are largely forgettable. Audience fatigue is because of CGI being now commonplace and nothing is unbelievable anymore. Disney should make more effort at telling general audiences about the costumes and make-up, which elevate pictures like BPWF far beyond other productions.

First_Routine_45292026-01-08 18:04

I mostly agree with you except for Loki. Remember that Deadpool and wolverine already tackled Loki season 1 and the whole TVA thing.

God Loki, sustaining the whole multiverse will be explained quickly in Doomsday, just like the TVA was. (I still think Doom objective is to kill Loki, destroy the multiverse and recreate the golden timeline to his liking).