Thor Goes Serious in ‘Avengers: Doomsday’ After Chris Hemsworth Criticized the Superhero Becoming ‘Too Silly’ in the MCU: ‘I Became a Parody of Myself’

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EctoRiddler2025-12-31 22:50

I think there is a middle ground. I don’t want to see him Thor dark world again. I don’t wanna see him love and thunder again. I really enjoyed Ragnarok.

LollipopChainsawZz2025-12-31 22:55

Even Ragnarok was a step too far imo. People were viewing that movie through rose tinted glasses. Anything was going to be better than Dark World. I prefer the occasional joke but not to make the whole character Star-Lord 2.0. Hemsworth said it best. He became a parody. I will never forgive Taika for what he did to The Warriors 3.

hewmanxp2026-01-01 00:13

I like Ragnarok but after the first hour I couldn't take anything seriously. The death of Odin was so minimal and washed over, when Banner jumped off the ship I knew it was gonna be a gag and he'd faceplant before turning into Hulk, when their entire world was destroyed we couldn't even feel their pain because the rock dude had to start cracking jokes like come on.

CootahBrown2025-12-31 22:57

Dark World ruled. Hating it is a meme. But peak Thor was Infinity War.

jkovach892025-12-31 23:16

This take is so cold it belongs with the Jotuns

No_Chilly_bill2026-01-01 00:21

dark wold glaze in 2025? this year delivers everything

CootahBrown2026-01-01 00:26

Buzzer beater. RIP Frigga!

Lazuf2026-01-01 06:25

11:25 pm 12/31/2025 dark world best thor movie reporting in

bythewayne2026-01-01 00:40

I liked Dark World but Ragnarok is Ragnarok. I went to see it three times

FirstProspect2026-01-01 00:42

Rewatched it about 2 months ago, and I couldn't believe it was ever called a bad movie.

TheOneWhosCensored2026-01-01 01:44

Dark World had its problems, but none of them were related to Thor as a character.

royalxK2025-12-31 23:12

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EctoRiddler2025-12-31 23:19

BRING ME THANOS!!!

PJL802025-12-31 23:26

I know Endgame takes a lot of flack for the "Fat Thor being a joke" thing, but it has a favorite MCU moment for me. His heart to heart with his mom ending with him taking a chance based on instinct. Reaching his hand out, risking rejection and validation of his deep well of self loathing depression. And then Smack! There's Mjolnir. The relief in his "I'm still worthy" is a top-tier Thor moment.

So I have faith that the creative team here can deliver us something great with Thor. I like the framing of that teaser trailer. Begging the All-Father for the strength to win and survive once more, so he can teach her calm, stillness, and peace.

Poku1152026-01-01 00:41

It has my favorite Thor moment too!

Thor: "You know its a trap right?"

Tony: "Yeah...I dont much care"

Thor: "Good. Just as long as we are all in agreement"

*sky rumbles*

actuallycallie2026-01-01 14:47

That Thor with the braids and all is 🤌

OhSnappityPH2026-01-01 00:52

i watched this before nye to remind myself thay i too am still worthy even after all the self-loathing

TheOneWhosCensored2026-01-01 01:47

Honestly Fat Thor wasn’t even a problem, it was how everyone treated him in the movie. The idea that he’s at his lowest and it’s completely changed him, but he comes back when he friends ask him to and willingly fights despite his setbacks without question are great for the character. Plus the time travel scene is excellent. He had a great Viking look and his attacking style seemed way more realistic too, we just didn’t need the cheese wiz jokes.

PapaSnow2026-01-01 00:41

Agreed. I believe Thor is at his best when he’s serious, and his humor comes from the audience recognizing the absurdity of something, _not_ Thor trying to be silly or make a joke.

“All words are made up.” “I like this. ANOTHER”

Etc. etc. etc.

twentyextysix2025-12-31 23:18

I still believe that if we had seen Taika’s desired cut for Love and Thunder (which was deemed too long), we would have seen a both ends of the spectrum.

CreativeSwordfish3912025-12-31 23:19

im fully sick of Taika Waititi at this point. Ragnarok was fun but im ready to see other sides of the character. you can actually make a fun wild action packed movie without filling it with mid sitcom jokes

AntonChigurh89332025-12-31 23:29

Taika commented on how he did it for the $$$. Kinda sums it up. When you have Coogler who took BP serious and knew the implications of what BP will do for his community.

Illidanisdead2026-01-01 03:46

Actually as some one who is a local (Also from New Zealand) who watched a lot of Taika's movies what I can tell you is that, the reason the previous Thor movie was good was because it was a bit of relief after so many serious movies, also he had others keeping his humor in check. The truth is Taika has to have his humor in moderation, when that doesn't happen, the result is what we see in L and T. He has some brilliant movies but he needs to learn how to reel it in. L and T was Taika going full Taika mode. So I don't blame Hemsworth for feeling like his character was a joke.

Onlyspeaksfacts2026-01-01 04:46

The main reason Ragnarok worked and L&T didn't is because Taika did not write the former.

Slowandserious2026-01-01 00:06

I think Thor’s characterizarion in Dark World is pretty good.

The pacing and villain of the movie were dragging, but Thor himself was fine

Wolfram_And_Hart2025-12-31 23:04

I wish they had framed Loved and Thunder as if Korg was telling a story.

Edit: I’m so glad others heard and saw what I did. I can’t tell you how many downdoots I’ve accumulated suggesting this.

AndarianDequer2025-12-31 23:07

That's exactly how it appeared to me and that's how I took it...

Allexandyr2025-12-31 23:19

But that’s exactly how it was framed

PJL802025-12-31 23:21

The movie begins and ends in that exact context, so you can easily infer this was the "Korg" telling of the story.

Wolfram_And_Hart2025-12-31 23:27

I legitimately got downvoted into the hundreds for suggesting it.

MyCatBuster2025-12-31 23:42

That's not why you've gotten downvotes. People can believe that. The issue fundamentally is. Korg is not to be narrating a story about Cancer, Death and God relationships with their subjects. And when people hear it, it irrates the shit out of them.

They absolutely fucking butchered Gorr as a character. The Jane Foster story. Thor as a character was heavily damaged in this film.

I can't even begin describe how excited people that were familiar with Gorr were when they heard Christian Bale was playing him. You throw in the Jane Foster cancer storyline and they had everything they needed to make something great.

But they fucked it. It is the only MCU movie I cannot rewatch. It is actually unwatchable to me. I go these periods when I think "maybe it wasn't that bad". And then I get to Axels floating head and thor going on about eating children. I have to turn it off

GullibleGap99662026-01-01 00:01

Its such a shame they brought in Christian Bale only to waste the hell out of him in that movie.

metasophie2026-01-01 00:26

> It is the only MCU movie I cannot rewatch.

I regret watching it at the cinema. If it were on streaming, I would have left the kids to watch it without me.

UnnecessaryFeIIa2026-01-01 00:36

“You don’t get it. The movie was intentionally bad.”

Shallot9k2026-01-01 02:47

Ngl this has been my conspiracy theory. I’m not saying Waititi is blameless, but I think he made Love and Thunder so bad as a way to get revenge on the studio for undoing all the development Thor had in Ragnarok.

At the end of Ragnarok, Thor realises he’s the God of Thunder, not the God of Hammers and finally accepts his role as King of Asgard. Then what happens in the next two films? He has to rely on Stormbreaker to beat Thanos, needs Mjolnir to reaffirm his self-worth and he gives up his throne to adventure with the GOTG. The latter is the worst decision Markus and Mcfeely made, as neither Gunn nor Waititi wanted to work with each other’s characters, resulting in the GOTG getting awkwardly written off in Love and Thunder’s opening.

ProductArizona2025-12-31 23:26

It literally was 😆

eagc72025-12-31 23:30

I mean you can headcanon it as such

yojimboftw2025-12-31 23:31

I wish they had just adapted the actual Gorr the God Butcher story.

spazzxxcc122025-12-31 23:54

i think the actual god butcher story would have to be told over 2 movies, i just can’t see a good adaptation in a single movie

SithLordScoobyDooku_2026-01-01 00:08

You have a great actor like Bale and absolutely waste him.... Unreal

Geno0wl2026-01-01 00:45

They have wasted a lot of great actors.

SithLordScoobyDooku_2026-01-01 01:29

I've seen people over the years fan cast Gary Oldman in various roles and I honestly hope he stays far away from the MCU because I have no faith they could use him properly.

NK13372026-01-01 00:26

I was so let down with that movie especially given how some of the screens seemed to be 1:1 adaptation of the comics. Scenes like [this](https://i.redd.it/gx7b3hdypau81.jpg) made me think we were gonna have a far more serious and dramatic movie.

idiot-prodigy2025-12-31 23:39

I wish Korg wasn't in Love and Thunder.

I can't stand directors who shoe horn themselves into their projects.

threestackshelpmeout2025-12-31 23:42

That doesn’t automatically make the movie good or the concept a good idea

GregorSamsaa2025-12-31 23:42

Ok, but hear me out, it was a directing/story decision that led to an inferior product. This defense of “but it’s Korg telling a story” isn’t the excuse you all that use it seem to think it is. It doesn’t wave away any of the valid criticisms of why the movie was filmed/written that way.

It was a choice to go that way and the people that dislike the end result aren’t invalidated by pointing out something you think they didn’t catch or are choosing not to discuss.

etherama12026-01-01 02:50

Yes, it being "as told by silly Director Self Insert Character" doesn't make the movie any less disappointing and awful to watch.

Top-boy-og2026-01-01 00:10

How does that change anything lmao. It’s still the same movie that sucks

13WillieBeaman2026-01-01 00:27

lol… reading this.. I picture Korg doing all the voices like how Luis does in the AntMan movies 🤣. Now I want Luis to tell Love and Thunder’s story

TheOneWhosCensored2026-01-01 01:43

People downvoted because it’s a stupid excuse to explain a bad movie. Korg telling it as a story doesn’t make it good, it honestly makes it worse since Waititi chose to shoehorn his character instead of making a good movie.

ReturnoftheBoat2026-01-01 01:47

GOAT'd username.

MikeArrow2026-01-01 02:04

I wish Korg wasn't in Love and Thunder at all, because he's an extremely grating character.

ChrischinLoois2025-12-31 23:08

Ill believe it when I see it tbh. Marvel cant always help themselves. I know weve come a long way from Age of Ultron and it's marketing, but still going to remain hesitant until I see them take the character more seriously

TheAgmis2025-12-31 23:31

Age of Ultron sucked

AntonChigurh89332025-12-31 23:32

Oh yes, they don't realized there is a whole fanbase that enjoys the dark mystical side of Marvel comics via Midnight Suns.

Stop dropping the ball and give us Blade.

Sentz120002025-12-31 23:26

Infinity War is the best version of Thor we ever got.

Ragnarok was a close second because it was goofy but he got serious when he had to be serious.

unbinkable2025-12-31 23:48

His delivery of, “He already has”, to being told they have to stop Thanos before he gets too powerful. Goddamn perfect.

tombsflow2025-12-31 23:59

The interactions with Racoon was one of my favorite parts, when you realize how much he lost, hes hurting but still showing up to fight. Thats the best Thor.

lk792026-01-01 00:10

**Thor**: “You know, I'm 1500 years old. I've killed twice as many enemies as that. And every one of them would have rather killed me than not succeeded. I'm only alive because fate wants me alive. Thanos is just the latest of a long line of bastards, and he'll be the latest to feel my vengeance - fate wills it so.”

**Rocket Raccoon**: “Mm-hmm. And what if you're wrong?”

**Thor**: “Well, if I'm wrong, then... what more could I lose?”

*[Thor walks away]*

**Rocket Raccoon** *[mutters]*: “Well, I could lose a lot. Me, personally, I could lose a lot.”

QuestionTheOrangeCat2026-01-01 00:52

one of my fav scenes in the mcu

DukeOfLowerChelsea2026-01-01 01:32

*but none succeeded

Naked_Snake_22026-01-01 13:49

And then you find him praying for his life to Odin just so he can see his daughter…you just have to love em stakes

Journeys_End712026-01-01 07:45

Sweet Rabbit.

AxCel912026-01-01 08:33

Tree

Dantien2026-01-01 08:27

His acting in that scene is superb. You can see the emotional strain he’s under- fighting to stay hopeful when he’s lost everything in the past week. He was, for a brief moment, vulnerable and open, as the sadness washed over him. But in typical Thor fashion he got back up and moved forward. All in a few seconds of acting. I really admired Hemsworth for that scene.

Sportslegend2026-01-06 15:03

Think about what he's acting against too. There's a green screen and Sean Gunn looking at him in mocap

4gotAboutDre2026-01-02 03:00

Thor: He hasn’t fought me!

Rocket: yeah, he has.

Thor: Well, he hasn’t fought me twice.

Even his scenes in IW that are meant to be played funny are subtle and brilliant enough that the dialogue just flows better.

IW is 100% peak Thor!

Ambitious-Pirate-5052026-01-01 03:07

With Rabbit. Who the hell is this "racoon". Its almost like you'll tell me that Tree is called something else.

4ps222026-01-01 00:28

It’s a shame Thor is supposed to be one of the big three and has been in the series for 15 years yet his character only peaked during a six month span from Ragnarok to Infinity War and has been toiling away in mediocre films or getting less focus than Cap and Tony in the team up movies outside of that.

Like seriously he’s had two multi-year stretches where one of his solo movies was considered one of the worst in the franchise at the time.

akimboslices2026-01-01 02:12

I reckon Hemsworth is also a decent actor who cares about his work - it’s just hard for him to shatter the chiseled strongman mould. I think he tried to do that as much as he could with the material for Ragnarok and L&T but he probably needs a few indie movies outside the blockbusters and straight to streaming to establish he can do more. Judging by that interview and the recent comment from Simu Liu, Hemsworth probably also needs to ask for more - they seem to let RDJ get away with a lot!

Luxx8152026-01-02 04:50

I think it's really hard to make the stakes for Thor feel as dire as they do for Cap or Tony. He's like a Demi-god. Steve and Tony are squishy humans who are very killable. A well placed bullet and they are toast. The worst thing that happened to Thor was losing an eye from his own sister and even that he got back. He's almost never in any real danger (it feels to me imo).

Tityfan8082026-01-01 00:38

Just like avengers 1 was the best version of the hulk, at least in my opinion.

And I hope if the Hulk is in these movies that they do him justice again too. I didn’t actually hate him losing to Thanos and becoming smart Hulk in Endgame, I just wanted to see him do more and get in the fight with full control this time. In Endgame he has one little piece of action where he smashes the fuck out of some chitauri (it’s in the one shot scene right after ‘assemble’) and most people didn’t even see it cause it’s so quick. We did get a SMALL taste of him fighting with more control of himself in She Hulk but there’s still sooooooo much untapped potential for him

wishiwascryingrn2026-01-01 01:17

I've always wished he got one last moment lashing out in Infinity War, maybe coming out at the last second at the Battle of Wakanda to pin/hold Thanos down as Thor sends his blow. But neither had their thinking cap on and didn't go for the head/block off the hand so "you should've gone for the head" can still land. That way both get their moment of redemption within the movie...and it's all still for nothing.

jwbrkr742026-01-01 01:42

It’s difficult for smart hulk to have full control in a fight because smart hulk is more banner than hulk. Its banner with the strength. Except he doesn’t really know how to hulk out the way hulk in control can.

crazyguyunderthedesk2026-01-01 00:41

Yeah I get why LT turned people off, but I pray they don't lose sight of Hemsworth being genuinely good at comedy. Ragnarok and IW work set a nice net in terms of how far the comedy should go and how far the drama should go.

Amon77772026-01-01 01:37

If you read these threads you would think only godly serious Thor was super great. I wish folks would remember the boring awfulness of Dark World and really much of Thor 1.

When Ragnarok came out, it was universally hailed as not only the best Thor movie, but one of the best movies of the year. It nailed the Thor character that the MCU couldn’t figure out; a lovable idiot with a heart of gold. Now, god forbid you speak of it here positively.

While you can certainly argue he got Flanderized in L&T, honestly, I didn’t hate it either. I’m excited to see this version in Doomsday, but the “he must be serious and edgy and dark and no more marvel humor” nonsense is ridiculous.

YESRedbone2026-01-01 02:21

I agree. Infinity War Thor is the best one imo (close to Ragnarok). He's serious, but has his funny moments.

crazyguyunderthedesk2026-01-01 04:47

Yeah I don't think comedy was the problem with LT, at least not in a vacuum. It just felt out of place with the cancer subplot and Gorr being such a dark villain. But if the movie had decided to go full comedy and gone with campier subplots I think it would've been received much better.

Loose_Concentrate3322026-01-01 07:33

His humor is better when he's the straight man. Its when he plays the clown that its just too much.

The deadpan delivery is so much better

frezz2026-01-01 12:44

Amazing how reactionary reddit is. One bad movie and now everyone hates Taika, and have completely changed their minds on Ragnarok.

He _definitely_ got it wrong in L&T, but as Chloe Zhao has shown, one bad movie (especially in phase 4) does not mean you are a poor filmmaker

WD_G2026-01-01 01:47

Yeah, I hope we only get silly goofy Thor when he's with Love, before he learns of the threat that he has to fight. And maybe a couple of scenes non-serious scenes with some of the heroes, similar to his scenes with the Guardians in Infinity War, the "he's adopted" scene in Avengers, and my personal favourite in Age of Ultron: "The gates of Hel are filled with the screams of his victims. ...But not the screams of the dead, of course."

Cash4Jesus2026-01-01 00:50

Infinity War Thor earned it. We saw him risk death to take the power of a star so Stormbreaker could be forged. I’m hard pressed to find another scene in a comic book movie where the hero earned the pop as he saves the day in Wakanda. Thor’s arrival was great, but what made it was the Stormbreaker forging.

It’s like in professional wrestling where the other wrestler has to sell the face’s moves so they’re more impactful.

Odin0432026-01-01 07:50

I think you're right. The only contender is Steve Rogers picking up mjolner.

eddyx2026-01-01 12:54

I would compare the stormbreaker forging to Spidey having to stop the train in Spider-Man 2. That whole scene leading up to that and after with the crowd carrying him on the train is so well done and my favorite part of the movie.

Cash4Jesus2026-01-01 13:24

That’s a great scene.

PosiedonsSaltyAnus2026-01-01 15:56

He's just a kid

PoundNaCL2026-01-01 02:17

Ragnarok remains my most watched Marvel film.

Palmquistador2026-01-01 04:04

Ultron for me, then Ragnarok.

clashrendar2026-01-01 03:06

I thought the depiction of grief, depression, substance abuse, and PTSD in Endgame was very well done too. Played up for humor some, but the acting behind it by Hemsworth was very very good. Thor suffered in a very real and relatable way.

vally992026-01-01 04:03

I don't mine them being goofy and then get serious, but some characters are really a joke...an Thor was just a joke in thunder

funnyBatman2026-01-01 04:08

When he landed on earth with a raccoon and a tree in infinity war, the theatre I watched in went berserk, and I'm sure this was the case with every other theatre in the world. One of the greatest cinematic moments on the big screen...

baltimorecalling2026-01-01 05:01

Ragnarok was an action movie with jokes. LaT was a joke movie with action.

Kumomeme2026-01-01 05:12

Ragnarok has good balance. it dont feel forced and the joke feels like slipped in naturally without ruined the character.

while Love and Thunder is a mess.

TheAgmis2025-12-31 23:30

I’d rather the parody than the one note bore of movies 1 and 2

TarnishedAccount2025-12-31 23:33

Love and Thunder was garbage

risingsuncoc2026-01-01 00:15

Wasted a great villain and actor too

MadGibby32026-01-01 00:31

Genuinely can't believe they wasted Bale like that. Could have been a generation villain.

YESRedbone2026-01-01 02:27

Grass is green!

andrehateshimself2025-12-31 23:36

So funny that people would think this is a crazy take to have after Ragnarok, but now it’s the mainstream opinion after Love & Thunder.

FirstProspect2026-01-01 00:39

Ragnarok was fresh but still had the big moments count. Love & Thunder was flanderization.

Let's not even talk about how bad Hulk has been treated in the MCU...

_Eltanin_2026-01-01 02:14

I thought Hulk for the most part was fine given the rights and legality thing they had to navigate but I do agree that his depiction in She-Hulk was not it...

And then I watched the Mullet Man's video on the Hulk and my god, he is such a wasted opportunity in the MCU.

SpikyKid2026-01-01 02:22

Hulk has the potential to have great movies. Before the MCU he was the 3rd most popular character. It’s a shame how he’s basically a supporting character in the MCU

theEMPTYlife2026-01-01 06:44

It’s also the over reliance the MCU has to make everything a joke. I expect it with Tony and Starlord, sure, and it was a nice breath of fresh air in Ragnarok, but L&T was just like “oh they really took the wrong lessons from Ragnarok”. I hope Thor is still capable of jokes, and I trust the Russo’s to strike that balance like in IW

DrinkUpLetsBooBoo2026-01-01 00:42

L&T not only embraced the comedy too much, giving Jane Thor's powers just made her equal to him. She took his thunder away (so to speak) and made him kind of obsolete.

Also, using Guns n Roses for the soundtrack was an awful decision.

gwydapllew2026-01-01 01:38

Jane as Thor happens in the comics. It didn't make him obsolete to have a teammate with equal power.

Azsunyx2026-01-01 00:51

Love and thunder tipped too far into the silly territory that it sacrificed what should have been a terrifying villain. The movie couldn't stop being silly long enough to actually feel the weight of a god-killing threat.

Real_Walk53842026-01-01 01:01

God killing threat is kinda meaningless in the MCU. They’ve been throwing god killing threats out there for 15 years.

Azsunyx2026-01-01 01:07

Fair, but it's the movie's primary villain, there should have been even a modicum of fear that he'd actually kill someone important

FoxyMiira2026-01-01 03:26

You miss the point of Gorr. He's a god killer like 100s of other Marvel villains but he's a great villain because he's a psychological villain for Thor. In the comics, Gorr makes Thor truly fear and even doubt himself and about the Gods which leads to an arc of him not being able to wield Mjollnir for a while. The movie barely dived into these themes.

frezz2026-01-01 12:51

I just feel like the movie writes itself. Thor's been called a "god" since he was first introduced. But what does a god mean? It would've been amazing to have a movie explore what responsibilites a god has, and what happens when they neglect those responsibilities

Instead we threw away two of the best arcs in Thor's history for some jokes

JerryLawlerr2025-12-31 23:44

And now you’re a babysitter

Luchabat2025-12-31 23:51

I didn't/don't mind a funny Thor, I just think at this point there should be a good blend between serious and funny. L&T had way to much humor especially in moments when he should have been serious.

ProlapsedShamus2026-01-02 08:31

I'd say it had too much goofiness.

Like Mjolnir having a personality and floating around and I think there was a scene where it and Thor had a date night watching TV and the screaming goats and that whole intro with the Guardians where he was completely uncaring when people were dead and dying.

It was goofy for goofy sake. It felt like a slapstick comedy and after we saw this arc of a character who hit his lowest lows and now was picking up the pieces it felt like the movie abandoned all that storytelling and just did it's own thing which, honestly, didn't even feel like part of the MCU. And that is factoring in the 4th Wall wackiness of She-Hulk and Deadpool.

boxed_lunch_venom2025-12-31 23:52

I still think his characterization is best In the dark world. With infinity war being a close 2nd.

Dark world isn’t great but I enjoy it quite a bit and jt has one of my favorite lines in the MCU. “I’d rather be a good then a great king”

Excited for doomsday

supermassivecod2025-12-31 23:53

It’s not about lighter or darker, both can work

Ragnarok was a hilarious and fun take on the character, the dark world was a serious take on the character that was a snoozefest, wheats IW was a more serious take and it was near perfect

That being said he’s right L&T was a parody and insulting to the character, I’m not sure it’s recoverable

doublea082026-01-01 00:04

We’ll see.

Moonveil2026-01-01 00:06

I know Ragnarok is a lot of people's favourite Thor film, but I honestly love the almost Shakespearian vibe of the first one the most. They took themselves seriously, (though not so serious as The Dark World), and it set up both Thor and Loki wonderfully.

For what it's worth, I think all three first movies for the Big Three did a tremendous job in setting up those characters and making us care about them.

Nonadventures2026-01-01 00:38

Yeah Branagh directing the first one absolutely set the regal tone of the entire Thor series

TheOneWhosCensored2026-01-01 01:45

We didn’t appreciate Branagh enough, he should’ve had the whole series

frezz2026-01-01 12:59

Ragnarok injected an enormous amount of life into the character and interest in him surged, which carried into IW. MCU massive fumbled with L&T, but lets not pretend it was better before. Audiences were supremely bored with the character, and Hemsworth himself said the character needed reinvention

Moonveil2026-01-01 03:03

Something I really loved about the first IM/Cap/Thor is how different those three movies felt, which worked very well with those characters. It grounded Tony/Steve/Thor in their respective worlds, and I believe that's why those characters have such lasting power with the general audience compared to most of the newer MCU heroes. (It doesn't help that at some point the MCU movies started feeling pretty similar stylistically.)

Thor gave me theatre vibes under Branagh's direction, which fits perfectly when we're talking about Norse Gods.

N0_PR0BLEM2026-01-01 06:06

The homogenization very clearly came with the Disney acquisition.

SkorpioSound2026-01-01 10:08

That's something Marvel used to do really well in general. Ant-Man being a heist film. Captain America And The Winter Solider being a conspiracy thriller. Black Panther being afrofuturism. And so on. They all had superheroes as their main characters, of course, but they really leant into their genres and tones at the same time.

Modern Marvel has lost their touch in that regard, and I think it's why their films haven't been as good. They just feel more like generic superhero films, rather than strong genre pieces in their own right.

Dadallli2026-01-01 17:14

Happy to know that there is someone else who likes Branagh's Shakespearean perspective. I have to admit that the second Thor is the only movie that I have watched twice in a cinema. I think it marks when I truly fell in MCU.

icepak392026-01-01 01:02

Same here

Newparlee2026-01-01 01:10

The first one was really good. I really like Ragnarok, but it was a totally different character. Love and Thunder was ridiculous.

HomemadeBee16122026-01-01 01:37

I never saw much dismissing of Thor 1 back when it came out. Most people seemed to say it was surprisingly good for a character considered almost unadaptable to the big screen. Thor 1 also has better legs than Dark World or Ragnarok. Some retroactive bashing of Thor 1 has happened in the last few years that I can't explain.

I don't think Ragnarok is nearly as loved as people say. The inflated RT scores give people a false perception of how popular MCU movies actually are. Ragnarok's legs are also quite mediocre for the MCU as a whole. They are down there just above the MCU movies that are known to be the most disliked.

Randomcommentator272026-01-01 01:58

Everyone loved Thor 1 until the critics and online directors told us to hate it.

DCosloff19992026-01-01 02:33

Definitely. I wished People know who Thor actually is in the comics when they are doing these movies

AmaterasuWolf212026-01-01 14:02

My got take is that I orefer Thor 1 over Ragnarok

electriclightthemoon2026-01-01 00:15

Infinity War and Ragnarok are the best versions of Thor. They both knew how to balance him out.

bruhshyoteethes2026-01-01 00:19

a guy that I worked with who is really into comics told us that Thor in love and thunder was the most comics accurate one. Not sure if he was referring to his suit or sillyness though. In any cases, I really liked him in love and thunder, but I agree that it was too silly for a movie introducing the killer of gods. Saying this was a parody of himself is a bit weird though, he's been silly many times and it's part of his character and probably a way to cope to everything that ia going on, which makes sense. In infinity wars he was definitely not in a mood to joke for obvious reasons though, so we got the serious Thor

Regenitor_2026-01-01 00:20

People saying IW Thor was the best Thor should be over the moon about him being a main character in Doomsday. The Russos know how to direct him and will want him to be consistent with their version of the character.

sarandipity-412026-01-01 04:05

This is the hopeful reminder we needed. I feel like his best portrayal happened under the Russos.

frezz2026-01-01 12:57

To be absolutely fair, it's a lot easier in a team-up, since you don't need to delve into characters too much and can mostly focus on making them look good.

e.g. Thor in IW was basically just an aura merchant. You can't really do that in a full-length film

skinnysnappy522026-01-02 13:42

Kind of but that’s a bit unfair. There’s a lot of focus on how much he’s lost and some solid character work there too. The humour is to hide his pain and that’s why it works

Tarcion2026-01-01 06:25

This is why I’m hopeful. Hemsworth kills it as Thor but there needs to be solid directing and writing. He has got great comedic chops but Thor being a joke (i.e., Love & Thunder) with some seriousness was the pendulum swinging too far in that direction. I would say his Avengers portrayals have generally been the most consistent and on average higher quality so I’m optimistic.

Scott_J_Doyle2026-01-01 20:09

Russo's gave us Thor Lebowski tho, IW/EG was a clear win/loss for the character in my books

Regenitor_2026-01-01 21:37

Figured Endgame would come up in this thread. I think people need to remember what lead to Endgame's Thor.

In IW we had an unstoppable force, motivated by anger and desperation. When Thor ultimately comes so close to avenging those he loved, only to fail and see half of all life erased, the question in the writer's room for Endgame is "What impact does this have on him?"

I don't think it was a mistake to make him depressed and a drunk - that seems natural for an asgardian who has experienced what he has.

The fact was that the Russo's engineered IW to give Thor the spotlight, so that they could give that spotlight to Cap and Tony in their last film. Based on the fact Thor has his own teaser for Doomsday, I think it's fair to say the spotlight might be back on him, which is very good news for us.

SupervillainMustache2026-01-01 00:27

He's right. I think Ragnarok towed the line of comedy and seriousness pretty well, but Love & Thunder was just goofy.

vector_o2026-01-01 00:36

they'll try to make him serious so hard that it will come off as incredibly cringe, mark my words

I sincerely hope I'm wrong but unless they give him a proper character story arc every line Thor says will make the watchers anticipate a crappy joke or at this point an out of character badassery

storksghast2026-01-01 00:44

Love and Thunder defenders in shambles.

eternali172026-01-01 01:43

That's what happens when no one in charge of the character seems to know much about or even like the character, even when he's got literal decades of great stories and characterisation.

jwbrkr742026-01-01 01:44

Solving the Thor problem is easy. Keep Waititi the fuck away from directing further movies.

DE4N01232026-01-01 01:45

I would have been happy to see no more of Thor after the end of Ragnarok. His arc is closed, he’s taken up the mantle of King of Asgard and accepted that it’s the people who are important, not the place. When the theme music from the first Thor plays and he sits in the throne, that’s a perfect ending right there.

They proved me wrong with Infinity War but then ruined him (again) in Love and Thunder. Really hope Doomsday puts him back where he belongs.

ballinb0ss2026-01-01 02:05

Interesting to see the consensus of loce and thunder. Idk i actually liked that one a good deal but I know it isn't popular. I jusr didn't feel like the hard comedy angle was that bad. It's probably my favorite post endgame movie until Deadpool 3 and F4

super_slimey002026-01-01 02:06

The entire MCU became a parody of itself highlighted by the kevin feige appearance in she-hulk

icarus_melted2026-01-01 02:10

"ragnarok" and "love and thunder" made the thor series into a joke rather then a story about a God with cosmic stakes but none of yall are ready for that conversation because you can't quit leg humping ragnarok

PoundNaCL2026-01-01 02:13

I do not agree. The problems with Thor: Love and Thunder were all the missed opportunities for greatness; they had nothing to do with Thor's character. The movie needed to spend more time showing us the God Butcher in action, and we needed more interactions with the other pantheons in Omnipotence City. Had they simply invested more time and energy in exploring these opportunities, the movie would have been vastly improved. The problem felt more with Taika Waititi who seemed to rush through things, as if he grew bored and just wanted it to be over.

AncientSith2026-01-01 02:14

There's a happy middle ground for the character. Love and Thunder wasn't it.

deaddrums2026-01-01 02:17

The parodying only started in love and thunder

captaincook142026-01-01 02:27

I liked the parody version. But gets to business when needed.

clashrendar2026-01-01 03:03

Ragnarok found a very appealing balance that worked really well. They then leaned way too hard on the humor side in Love and Thunder. I don't hate the movie though. There is some really good stuff in there, but there are also more than a few roll your eyes moments too.