I miss T'Challa
I think this loss was the biggest blow to the post-Endgame MCU. He was a wonderful character that was perfectly positioned to become a leading figure in the Avengers. His arc in Civil War was the best part of the movie.
"Vengeance has consumed them. I am done letting it consume me."
Sparing his father's killer showed a keen sense of justice. Embracing and helping to heal Bucky showed a well of compassion. More than any other character, he was poised to step into Steve Rogers' shoes. Not as Captain America, but as the moral center and guiding light of the new Avengers. They desperately need such a character.
RIP Chadwick Boseman.
"Vengeance has consumed them. I am done letting it consume me."
Sparing his father's killer showed a keen sense of justice. Embracing and helping to heal Bucky showed a well of compassion. More than any other character, he was poised to step into Steve Rogers' shoes. Not as Captain America, but as the moral center and guiding light of the new Avengers. They desperately need such a character.
RIP Chadwick Boseman.
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If I could choose who would be the new avengers team in the mcu, it would probably be Sam Wilson cap America, t’challa black panther, ant-man, Scarlett witch, Spider-Man and Thor. It’s not the best line up but I feel like it would be interesting to see this group of characters interact with each other.
I still to this day will maintain my stance that Marvel fucked up not recasting T'Challa. While none of us know what CB would have wanted, id have to think he'd want the legacy to continue, rather than saying he didn't want anyone to take his place.
They made the same mistake with not recasting Kang. It completely forces them to pivot and it's noticeable in how disconnected a lot of phases 4-6 have felt.
Again, hindsight is 20/20 and I do agree now that recasting was probably the better move. But I totally would not have ever wanted to be in those conference rooms trying to make the call.
I know he kept his diagnosis a secret for a long time, but I've always wondered if those conversations were ever had.
As I said, if anyone asked that question, they would get torn apart in the media for being insensitive, but still it makes you wonder
This is so true. There were very loud & angry arguments from proponents of both options.
That’s what’s also heart breaking is that the last 2 phases of the MCU feel like the lack leadership and the black panther would have been that through and through.
I wouldn't go as far as to say it ruined the movie, but it certainly affected my experience. So if T'Challa were to be recast it definitely wouldn't feel the same.
And we have already had actors say they turned the role down for doomsday/secret wars. Technically could be a "magically etc aged up" t'challa jr but either way t'challa will be back in the main timeline for black panther 3 and we will see variants of him in doomsday/secret wars alongside versions of t'chaka.
Not recasting him in the first place was a mistake.
We've had tons of supermen, tons of batmen, multiple war machines, tons of hulks.
Theres no part too big to recast and honestly it was fucking selfish of people to say otherwise. Not only did chadwick and his family want them to recast the part so that it would be bigger than him but they ended up killing one of the biggest and most important black characters in all of comics after 1 fucking movie.
Black kids deserve to grow up with their own t'challa just like i got to grow up with my own spider-man and batman
Personally, I think what they did in Wakanda Forever was great. They made a choice, and I respect that, and the way they portrayed the grief was amazing, as well as how Shuri stepped into the role.
he also said its not going to happen right away, but its probably going to happen eventually. the idea that secret wars will be a franchise-wide reboot with a new Tony, Steve, etc. right out of the gate is fan speculation.
>Black kids deserve to grow up with their own t'challa just like i got to grow up with my own spider-man and batman
while this is a commendable attitude, I kind of think you're talking about what you want, not necessarily what the black kids want.
what about black girls? don't they deserve a black panther?
Firstly, yes Shuri was reluctant, but the thing that makes sense is to show how she grows into the mantle instead of giving it away.
For the black female character to just "keep the seat warm" before a recasting would be *actually going out of one's way to make her expendable*.
if every time a story moves in a new direction its some huge insult to you, you and I don't care about the same things. Doomsday is clearly made for you, I hope you like it.
What’s your timeline with this thinking? T’Challa can never be portrayed by another actor ever again because one great actor died? How many times has the role of Dorothy Gale been recast? I think we can all agree that Judy Garland was great in that role. But she died, so there shouldn’t ever be another Dorothy Gale on screen anymore?
It’s funny you bring up Anthony Hopkins though because his most famous role is Hannibal Lecter, and there have been like 5 people that have played that role after Hopkins. All roles can be recast. No role is sacred.
Marvel needs to start treating the characters like James Bond. If someone quits or dies, recast and continue the story.
It's just not really that simple, especially with an actor as larger-than-life as Chadwick. The fact is, not every character is James Bond, or even Spider-Man. I don't really think every character should be; I think that sort of thinking dooms us to an eternity of reboots.
Hopefully secret wars fixes that
I really would’ve liked to have seen what “Wakanda Forever” would’ve been with him in it.