why didn’t feige just reboot x men in a new universe like the f4

basically just asking why didn’t the x men get rebooted in a new universe in a similar way to how they rebooted the fantastic four, with them all coming together in doomsday

still hyped to see the ogs next year tho

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TheForeverUnbanned2025-12-31 08:58

Or even in the same retro themed universe as F4. Mutants are more fun with the classic setting, First Class and days of future past are gems for just that reason, and Legion really leans into the Weird retro vibe too and was better off for it.

Ched_Flermsky2025-12-31 08:59

The Fox X-Men verse was popular with fans, or at least parts of it were. People have nostalgia for Patrick Stewart and that whole crew that they don't so much have for the 2005 movie or Fant4stic.

pigeonwiggle2025-12-31 11:53

aaaaand, Feige got his start working in production on X-Men. those are his pals he's giving work.

regardless of how much the rest of us may or may not care to see X-Men in their fucking 50s...

TipAdditional46252025-12-31 12:14

They are, it's the brand new xmen universe, the fantastic four universe, and the main mcu universe coming together. The old x men will be in the film mostly for fan service/nostalgia but once the multiverse phase is over it will be the brand new X men cast, the fantastic four and the main mcu universe all in 1 universe

Melcrys292025-12-31 16:10

Patrick and Ian are nearly 90.

BetterTelephone50012025-12-31 08:59

Because people care more about the X-men cast from 25 years ago than they did the FF casts. There’s some good stuff that could use a proper send-off before a new iteration.

alexjimithing2025-12-31 08:59

The X-Men actors/performances of years past are beloved/recognized/appreciated.

The Fantastic 4 actors/performances of years past….are not.

kryptosteel2025-12-31 13:03

mmm what about johnny or was that just for comedy but agreee with you

thatsidewaysdud2025-12-31 13:57

They had him land on his balls and killed him. Of course, it was for comedy.

MyLeftNut_2025-12-31 09:00

Because for the most part the X-Men films were way more successful in terms of critical and financial reception than the F4 films. Therefore it makes sense to continue with those legacy characters for a bit before establishing the MCU’s new X-Men. Doomsday and Secret Wars will be their finale, and the rebooted X-Men will come around in Phase 7.

NrFive2025-12-31 09:10

Didn’t he sorta do that? I feel like the post credit scene of The Marvels hinted at this… maybe…?

Goldman2502025-12-31 09:11

Partially because he didn’t have enough prior knowledge to plan them out before the Disney/Fox merger. With the X-Men, you’d either need to massively change the world (which is the rumour for what’s gonna happen post-Secret Wars), or you’d be making an entire series of films in an alternate universe, which would confuse casual cinemagoers. You can do that with the Fantastic Four, because that’s only one film - the X-Men would need more than one film to really set them up prior to Doomsday, and cranking out too many films in a short time would lead to audience fatigue and audiences complaining even more that heroes are getting introduced and immediately abandoned for five years.

Also, because the X-Men films were incredibly popular, and the Fantastic Four films weren’t. Look at the way people reacted to Patrick Stewart returning in Dr Strange 2, or to Hugh in Deadpool and Wolverine. People reacted that way to Chris Evans, sure, but mainly because the film pulled a bait and switch about him being Cap - you wouldn’t get that same reaction if it was Michael Chiklis or Miles Teller.

TipAdditional46252025-12-31 11:42

They are still gonna reboot them with new actors/varients, it's the brand new xmen universe, the fantastic four universe, and the main mcu universe coming together. The old x men will be in the film mostly for fan service/nostalgia

ghsteo2025-12-31 09:13

This isn't the MCUs Xmen. This is Fox's Xmen. It's possible end of Doomsday opens the door for MCU Xmen since we're already dealing with multiple dimensions.

boisosm2025-12-31 09:20

Feige got his start with Marvel by working on the first X-Men film as a associate producer so he has some sentimental value from his experiences working on those films.

pje11282025-12-31 09:29

The Fantastic Four never really had a successful adaptation. The 2000s movies were okay, but nothing that had a major impact on the genre, and the 2015 version was downright hated. The team deserved a fresh start.

The X-Men, however, had a very successful screen adaptation that arguably formed the first superhero cinematic universe before the MCU. Alongside Tobey's Spider-Man and Christian Bale's Batman, they catapulted superhero movies into mainstream blockbuster entertainment. Not only will people be excited to see them onscreen again, but it would be nice to give these characters a proper ending before the MCU reboots them.

eagc72025-12-31 09:37

They will reboot them.......after Secret Wars

They are just taking advantage of the fact we are dealing with the Multiverse to have the Foxverse characters interact with the MCU before they walk into the sunset (Expect For Deadpool)

Tkdoom2025-12-31 11:35

33 more years for Wolverine.

Cashneto2025-12-31 14:18

Till he's fucking 90.

SeekerVash2025-12-31 20:27

Actually, it's a lot more complicated than that.

Some of the Fox actors/actresses had contracts that went into 2025. No one else could play those characters.

Disney couldn't recast and wait for the expiration as it would delay Doomsday and recasting before the expiration *might* be actionable.

So they had no choice but to use the Fox cast unless they wanted to delay Doomsday to start filming in late 2025 or 2026.

Ryokupo2025-12-31 09:40

While not every movie was a hit, people generally love Fox's X-Men Universe, so we're preserving it in some fashion by featuring it in Doomsday and Endgame, and seemingly merging it into the main MCU. Nobody feels the same way about any of the previous F4 movies, so there was a need to make something brand new like First Steps.

TipAdditional46252025-12-31 11:52

It's not gonna be the old fox xmen universe merging with the new MCU but a completely new X men universe merging with the mcu and fantastic four universe, maybe a couple of varients of the same character will have the same actor, but for the vast majority it will be a completely new cast from a completely different universe

PinkysAvenger2025-12-31 09:59

Because we as a society are addicted to nostalgia, and the only films the fan base has gone to see are nostalgia bait, so they're just, "giving us what we want" in exchange for money.

Meizas2025-12-31 10:16

Who is going to tell OP that they already are in several other universes

MadmanIgar2025-12-31 14:05

Haha yeah, I remember years ago seeing someone try to make sense of the timeline and connect all the X-Men movies and they basically concluded that all of them were set in very similar yet different universes.

Essentially they tried to be more or less cohesive, but have A LOT of continuity issues.

dearskorpiomagazine2025-12-31 10:22

They wanted to get x-men right is the probable answer.
Better to spend years planning out the groundwork for all possibilities of x-men branch teams and how they'll interact with avengers than just making it up as you go.
The x-men going forward will be what the avengers were up to now. The avengers will still be around but xmen will be the focus I imagine. Its a huge franchise , with lots of untapped potential.

RaZkOL952025-12-31 10:22

I think it’s a goodbye for them and a reboot of new ones. That’s what I’m guessing anyway. I think they have Channing Tatum doing Gambit again and that isn’t in the old X-men movies so it’s kind of like show them, have them do some stuff, they die or something and you reboot with a fresh new cast of X-men.

Redhood5672025-12-31 11:03

The Russos wanted the X-Men but Marvel didn't want to rush out the proper MCU versions yet. The fox X-Men is just for Doomsday and Secret Wars. We'll get a rebooted version after that.

Zectherian2025-12-31 11:09

They kinda did?

At the end of the marvels, we see monica rambou wakes up with the original beast helping her. After she closes the tear by herself.

616ThatGuy2025-12-31 11:24

I’m sure that’ll be coming after secret wars when the MCU gets a full reboot. This is just a last hurrah bring in all the old actors for one big bang since people have attachments to all the old actors which will play better in doomsday and secret wars when they most likely kill off a bunch of them. Emotional attachment will go harder.

TipAdditional46252025-12-31 11:40

They are, it's the brand new xmen universe, the fantastic four universe, and the main mcu universe coming together. The old x men will be in the film mostly for fan service/nostalgia

mega5122025-12-31 12:01

I think they wanted to end that universe properly.

RDDAMAN8192025-12-31 12:40

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karafuto2025-12-31 12:42

He did that, at the end of The Marvels

Stock-Mistake-18642025-12-31 12:48

but the post credit in marvels **was** a different universe (or did i miss something)

NeonSherpa2025-12-31 12:53

Because, Wanda is gonna get us out of secret wars by pulling a House of M - giving us a mutant dominated universe. Then after that phase they’ll pull the M-Day card and soft reboot into the new version of 616. Franklin Richard’s is a bait and switch. Calling it now.

ABC_Dildos_Inc2025-12-31 12:58

I think that they only gambled with the Marvels and Deadpool & Wolverine to see the reaction.

They probably were ready to recast and maybe that's still the plan for the most part after Secret Wars.

marvelcomics222025-12-31 13:08

Nostaligia Bait. People love the X-Men movies and think the Fantastic Four movies are problematic.

Fun-Poet53382025-12-31 13:16

Nostalgia milking.

Dismal-Apricot98892025-12-31 13:33

Because all they have at this point is nostalgia. Even the teasers are nothing but nostalgia bait, with the whole “so and so will return.” They are not really teasing the movie itself, just the fact that you will see characters/actors from old, beloved franchises.

SalukiKnightX2025-12-31 13:37

I figure it’s tying up loose ends (given D&W including Snipes, Garner, Stanford and Evans reprising Blade, Electra, Pyro and Story Johnny Storm) before the MCU reboots with a clean slate of new performers. Given the MCU is going in with mutants I hope they build up to create the X-Men… also would want a multiverse take on Moira X.

CableAskanison2025-12-31 14:09

I vaguely remember there being a clause in the Disney acquisition of Fox (X-Men) that dictated the X-Men could not be recast until after 2025, similar to how the rights to the Hulk automatically reverted to Disney this year since Universal never made another film. Logistically it’s all just contract law and filming schedules.

urgasmic2025-12-31 15:43

I mean he will so

knotsteve2025-12-31 17:35

Because the nostalgia window will close soon, and Marvel is beholden to Disney shareholders.

ArchDucky2025-12-31 19:59

The biggest issue out of all of it is Hugh Jackman. He is Wolverine for the vast majority of the planet. He can't be recast and if they did X-Men without Wolverine people would be like "da fuk?" and if they did recast him they would be like "hes no Jackman and hes too short". Its basically a lose / lose situation.

josephcoco2025-12-31 22:01

They WILL be rebooted….after Secret Wars. I hope you don’t really think the true MCU X-Men will be the Fox universe characters (minus Wolverine and Deadpool).

Endgam2026-01-01 03:45

*He wants to kill Xavier one more time while Patrick Stewart is still alive.*