Any Ideas on this connection in Doomsday Teasers and Fantastic Four?

We know Doom is coming for Franklin Richards (as evident by Fantastic Four post credits and the four heading to Earth 616 in Thunderbolts).

With Captain America teaser for Doomsday with Steve with a baby and now the new one with Thor with him talking about his child, I'm trying to figure out what could be the connection behind all the children and Doom (other than Franklin's connection ofc). Any thoughts?

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Strict_Stranger_48012025-12-30 20:33

Love is a cosmic being. She could be used like Franklin and his Power Cosmic. Steve's baby? No idea

Zaladin032025-12-30 20:45

I feel like Doom and Steve's conflict will be based on revenge, if the time travel/adoption theory turns out to be true.

FerrusManlyManus2025-12-30 23:49

Oh god, can you summarize this awful sounding theory for me?

Zaladin032025-12-31 00:11

[This video sums it up pretty well](https://youtu.be/QLuEODLnwoU?si=U450H2qPnPKhzZax)

dirtsquirril2025-12-30 22:00

Maybe Steve Rogers' baby isn't "suppose" to exisit since SR isn't suppose to stay in that timeline, so by default the baby shouldn;t, that starts an incursion. Then mebbe Doom is trying to stop the incursions and needs the other two children with Cosmic powers to stop it/create a new world. Thinking SR baby doesn't have any super cosmic powers, just is the catalyst of events. Next is, what does, or who does, the Xmen universe have that Doom needs? Who knows, fun to speculate though..

FerrusManlyManus2025-12-30 23:51

The only “supposed to” reasoning as far as timelines go was HWR / Kang making timelines proceed along his favored paths. There is no “supposed to” otherwise. “Supposed to” from the TVA was revealed to be a scam. Now they let branches happen.

relikter2025-12-31 00:34

And even before the events of Loki, the TVA let branches that didn't produce a Kang (or a Kang that was a threat to HWR) exist. The TVA employees didn't know that's what they were doing, but that seems to have been what flagged a timeline for pruning.

Vumi_2025-12-30 23:12

I feel like the teasers are establishing the stakes for the Avengers by showing the audience that they have kids? I dunno if Doom's motivation is to go after these kids aside from maybe Franklin, but it's possible. Not sure if I jive with that idea, but that's not to say that it doesn't or can't work.

FerrusManlyManus2025-12-30 23:48

I am thinking more like you. They have kids, they have something personal to fight for, they empathize more with parents especially Sue and Reed whose kid is probably getting nabbed.

Doom stealing multiple kids seem unnecessary narratively and also reminds people of one of the biggest mistakes in Love and Thunder (Gorr as babysitter rather than God butcher)

Antrikshy2025-12-31 00:14

I just like the idea of calling them Infinity Babies.

BatDubb2025-12-30 23:18

We have no confirmation who was on that ship in Thunderbolts.

FerrusManlyManus2025-12-30 23:46

All we saw in Thunderbolts was a Fantastic 4 branded ship. We don’t know who is on it.

Assuming, reasonably that there will be a multiverse total or almost total collapse in these movies Doom is going to need to power up like he has done in various comic stories. Using Franklin for something makes perfect sense, power cosmic yadda yadda yadda.

Steve’s kid is useless to Doom. There is no reason that kid would he needed for anything.

Thor’s adopted kid is resurrected and we don’t know what powers they have. Maybe something there maybe not.

I find it incredibly unlikely that Doom is going to need multiple kids to power up when one makes more sense narratively (we spent a whole movie with Galactus, who is older than the universe, needing Franklin).

People are overdoing this kid angle. Parents care about their children. Thor and Steve with kids will be more able to empathize with Sue and Reed losing their kid. That’s my guess.

Plenty-Swordfish50492025-12-30 23:52

I think all 3 teasers are from 3 different universe

ButWereFriends2025-12-31 01:01

Well we kinda know that. Depending on how you use timeline/universe I guess.

But the wakandan/F4 one will be the same as the Thor one which is our usual

TheRealGrifter2025-12-30 23:59

Vecna, I mean Doom, needs kids to fuel his magic spell and take over the Upside-Down.

spidervenom6192025-12-31 03:26

Once again my Theory is that it has something to do with bring back Doom's Adopted Son and all of the other kids are just options for him. He's not actually kidnapping them except for Franklin, he just testing out their powers and see if they are good enough to bring back or Fix his Son.