Are they from the original fox xmen universe or are they variants of those xmen and are from a different universe like the current Logan/Wolverine and Charles from multiverse of madness
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craves_mineral2025-12-29 07:49
I think they are variants from another universe that is more comic book accurate.
adsfew2025-12-29 07:50
We'll let you know after they tell us
nevagonnagive_u_up2025-12-29 07:53
😂
lazzzym2025-12-29 15:20
After they figure it out
anrwlias2025-12-29 19:10
I truly don't understand why people ask these kinds of questions. It feels like karma bait.
goten1002025-12-29 23:40
Probably to discuss theories. But like everything these days, mostly bot activity
GroundbreakingCut7192025-12-30 08:06
They’re either bots, or the people who lean over and whisper questions to you during a movie instead of just watching the fucking movie to find out
LtJimmyRay2025-12-29 07:57
Well, that Beast is Kelsey Grammer, so if its a universe we've been introduced to, the original X-Men movies universe also had Kelsey Grammer play Beast. However, Patrick Stuart has played Professor X in more than one universe, so this isn't solid evidence its the OG X-Men movie universe for sure, but that's the best overlap we get from this scene.
AceofKnaves442025-12-29 17:39
Since from what we’ve seen so far everyone is wearing different outfits than we’ve ever seen them in, Magneto, Nightcrawler, and Gambit are with them, and there’s no Jean, Storm, or Logan, do you think these are the Fox X-men but kind of not? Like it’s the same actors but a different universe like how we saw there’s a whole bunch of different universes where Wolverine is still Hugh Jackman but he’s not the Logan wolverine?
Swoopmott2025-12-29 18:02
It’s almost certainly going to be a different universe or they’ll just not address it. The Fox timeline is a mess so the less they say about it the better. “It’s these characters with these actors and maybe a passing reference to the prior movies but let’s not dwell on the details” is the best way to go
AceofKnaves442025-12-29 18:56
From when they were announced I kind of figured it’d be the Fox X-men as we knew them. The timeline had been “rightened” at the end of DOFP so I thought that’s where they’re picking up from. I didn’t know how they were gonna explain key people like Jean, Storm, or Logan just not being there but I also thought they weren’t going to be presented as already dealing with Doomsday being here when we first saw them. After this teaser I’m thinking they’re not the Fox X-men team. They got to live out their days and have a happy ending in the DOFP universe. This is a new team in some universe where they look the same and have the same faces but are totally unique characters. And I’m thinking Jean is probably dead from a Dark Phoenix related incident and so is Storm. I have no idea how Logan could have died and so many others didn’t but that just might be what they go with.
Shitty-Photosshop2025-12-29 18:09
Watch them be from the X-men animated series, just live action. So they get to come with the years of backstory the cartoon brings
FX1142025-12-29 19:01
It's also been like 20 years.
AceofKnaves442025-12-29 19:04
It’ll have been 26 by the time Doomsday comes out.
OmnipotentHype2025-12-29 07:58
Likely variants. Beast looks absolutely nothing like he did in X3 or DOFP and everyone's wearing more comic accurate costumes instead of black leather and wifebeaters.
Odin0432025-12-29 08:24
I put that in the same category as actors being recast. Those are just the realities of making movies going back twenty five years.
eagc72025-12-29 08:25
You can just say Beast further mutated.......assuming this is meant to be that same version.
HandBanana6662025-12-29 09:03
Beast changes form due to mutations in both the comics and films.
OmnipotentHype2025-12-29 11:50
Yes, from a beast to a cat to an ape. The Beast in X3, First Class, DOFP, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix and The Marvels are all clearly meant to be the first one.
Geminilasers2025-12-29 18:57
Yep. Here he mutated from real to bad CGI.
Richard_b_Stillhard2025-12-29 12:01
Don't disrespect history like that. The legacy movies are fire.
vroart2025-12-29 12:03
Although to be fair, if you marathon the films they don’t stay consistent on continuity. But yes, you are correct.
Strict_Stranger_48012025-12-29 12:38
Beast constantly changes his form in the comics. He messes with his x gene
See also young Beast looking nothing like X3 Beast
PoofsInFrillyLace2025-12-29 13:56
What were you expecting, yellow spandex?
TrainingThings2025-12-29 08:00
Good question. I’m interested to know too
AsterArtworks2025-12-29 08:04
Likely 10005, same as Deadpool & Wolverine.
Antrikshy2025-12-29 08:08
This is likely the right answer.
They'll treat this as *the* FoX-Men universe for the purposes of DD and SW. Then they'll likely reboot the mutant stuff with mostly a fresh cast.
If things get inconsistent, we can all pretend The Marvels, DP&W, DD and SW dealt with *some* X-Men universe that was a lot like the Fox ones but not quite.
Ordinary-Chain-80472025-12-29 09:10
It took me way too long to realize DD and SW stood for Doomsday and Secret Wars
feetandballs2025-12-29 09:32
Daredevil and Star Wars
FaultyCYP4502025-12-29 09:49
Daredevil and Street Walker
Baronheisenberg2025-12-29 10:38
Dumbledore and Snape; Wizards
WD_G2025-12-29 11:01
Alternatively: Daredevil and Scarlet Witch
Larry_Lurex912025-12-29 12:04
Doordash and Sweet, Wendy's!
GozerDaGozerian2025-12-29 14:43
Deaddool and Super Wolverine.
wheremyturtles2025-12-29 15:44
Double-Ds and Sydney SWeeney
Peanut_Butter_Toast2025-12-29 23:12
Me trying to figure out what Daredevil and Scarlet Witch have to do with any of this.
Ordinary-Chain-80472025-12-29 23:26
That’s what I was thinking!
Lost_Mongooses2025-12-29 14:02
You need to write out more words.
SmartPilot80942025-12-29 08:58
+ Plus Days of Future Past & Logan Universe
AsterArtworks2025-12-29 09:07
Exactly, they wouldn’t waste the movies that explain these characters backstories.
Usual_Swimmer_42492025-12-29 10:32
Maybe, it could be because of the changes they were nearly beaten by the improved sentinel bots from the future by altering the past by not killing the President.
Usual_Swimmer_42492025-12-29 10:29
I have concerns regarding that specific universe, if that's the canon fox universe then why is their costume quite literally different compared to their black minimalist costume? It seems that the universe like we're seeing right now is merely a sub-universe parallel or branched out from 10005. Like 10005 A (Fox) to 10005 B (Disney).
I simply need answers for the obvious fact that I'm confused.
Over-Cold-87572025-12-29 10:52
They....changed clothes.
AsterArtworks2025-12-29 11:05
They just changed their costumes homie. Simple as that.
GillGruntFan532025-12-29 11:10
Wolverine is the anchor being of that universe. Worst Wolverine replacing him rewrote the timeline around him and he wore the yellow and blue, so naturally so does everyone else now.
DeceptiJon2025-12-29 08:12
Yeah
eagc72025-12-29 08:23
We'll find out in a year
KeyLime0442025-12-29 08:29
definitely not the original X-Men universe. IIRC, that is confirmed to be the same as the Logan universe, and the X-Men were mostly killed and no longer exist as an organization
Maria Rambeau also never appears in that universe, and definitely not as an X-Men
Like others said, this universe is most likely new to us, introduced for the first time in that post-credit scene
SmartPilot80942025-12-29 09:00
Well they were definetly killed after 2024 because of the events of D&W being canon to Logan & The movies after Days Of Future Past. MCU is still isnt in 2029 but is in 2027
BOSSBOOY2025-12-29 08:38
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Dookie_boy2025-12-29 08:54
Unclear
unreasonable-frog2025-12-29 09:06
How would we know? We saw the same movie you did.
Geist_Mage2025-12-29 09:08
My theory is that it's from the one where Scarlet Witch killed their Xavier. :D
JadedEggplant98312025-12-29 09:26
cool theory
but i’m pretty sure they mention reporting back Charles Xavier in that scene 😭
edit: realised a dead man would still have his name
Geist_Mage2025-12-29 09:31
Yes.
Dead or alive he still has a name.
But these are the xmen we should be getting for Doomsday. Because of Rambou's location. The trailer that dropped we can see a burning building behind cyclops. Them talking about death in the film.
It would give an excuse for a fight to break out for the plot writers.
Riproarin1152025-12-29 10:40
Wouldn't the Maria Rambeau in that universe be Captain Marvel on the Illuminati?
Geist_Mage2025-12-29 10:43
Damn.
Foiled. I have been foiled.
Sam_Sutciffe2025-12-29 09:22
What film is this scene from?
ProtectionOpposite412025-12-29 09:44
The Marvel's in the post credit scene
ProtectionOpposite412025-12-29 09:43
Avengers Doomsday might possibly answer that.
EdisonTheTurtle2025-12-29 12:33
Big if true
TheRomanRonin923632025-12-29 09:44
Beast got a major upgrade and I fucking love it
CarrotAshamed32072025-12-29 09:47
Probably 10005. Where DP&W started and ended.
Dave_Eddie2025-12-29 10:06
Anyone who says they know is lying. Theres been nothing officially mentioned to explain it yet.
marvelcomics222025-12-29 10:07
All but confirmed that it's Earth-10005,
slunksoma2025-12-29 10:19
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Neat_Lingonberry45402025-12-29 10:22
Yes.
karlospopper2025-12-29 10:34
Is the animated series considered another universe? Coz these costumes are pretty reminiscent of that show. I remember seeing beast looking like this
Justin_Sam212025-12-29 10:40
Earth-10005
fast_flashdash2025-12-29 10:56
It’s the universe where the x men are in doomsday
kendra_sunderlol2025-12-29 11:03
The forgotten one
GillGruntFan532025-12-29 11:11
Earth-10005, or the Foxverse as its more known. For these films, they’re going to keep it simple:
616 = Avengers
828 = F4
10005 = X-Men
vroart2025-12-29 12:02
A few seconds before Rogue kills carol
TheMasiu2025-12-29 12:15
They are from the ,,Post-credits scenes that lead to nowhere" universe. As of right now, it was never explained
zoctor2025-12-29 18:58
That universe has so many characters already. Hercules, Harry Styles, Charlize Theron, who else?
admiralQball2025-12-29 19:07
Shang Chi's sister. Hulk's son.
MainEventGeyBruce-O2025-12-30 13:33
Evil Sharon Carter too iirc
sistemafodao2025-12-29 12:19
Fox couldn't get the continuity straight between their movies, do you expect us to tell you?
a_natural_chemical2025-12-29 12:21
Bad Boy Records Universe.
Isn't that Diddy and Biggie?
JennaPearlPeter3332025-12-29 12:24
After Deadpool and Wolverine, I've come to the conclusion that all the Fox X-Men films, plus anything that features their characters (apart from MOM), are somehow all in one universe (despite all the inconsistent timelines), 10005. I'm guessing somewhere between DOFP and Logan.
IronBuzzo2025-12-29 12:50
🤷🏼♂️
rosyposy862025-12-29 13:02
Whatever universe the X-Men trilogy was between 2000-2010. Those were the best ones imo.
TheNerdWonder2025-12-29 13:33
They haven’t even specified but we’ll know soon
MACGamer12025-12-29 13:33
A post Rebooted Deadpool and Wolverine 10005, which...is honestly kinda cool
Fck_dis_shit2025-12-29 13:40
Their universe /s
Yeomanroach2025-12-29 13:41
The post-days of future past 10005 universe.
MMFRESHSW22025-12-29 13:55
The alternate universe that Monica Rambeau was trapped at the end of THE MARVELS is **Earth-10005** (DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE's universe), according to Alex Perez's source (The Cosmic Circus Circle Podcast)Jul 31, 2024
vhschenkerfan242025-12-29 13:58
I don't think they're from the Fox/10005 universe because in Logan, it's implied that Charles accidentally killed a bunch of the X-Men after having either a stroke or a seizure, and it's kind of implied that Beast, Cyclops, Jean, etc are all dead. I hope it's the same universe as X-Men '97 because why else would they resurrect that show and that universe just to make a few more animated seasons? Nah I think Marvel wants to tie those X-Men into the MCU with Foomsday and Secret Wars
MMFRESHSW22025-12-29 14:00
But in Dr.Strange MOM ,she's in the 838
jrtasoli2025-12-29 14:31
Marvel doesn’t even know. So neither do we.
Ello_Owu2025-12-29 15:05
The live action X-Men cartoon universe
Reasonable-Dealer-162025-12-29 15:28
Maria rambeau jawline universe.
killerjags2025-12-29 15:41
A different one
String29242025-12-29 15:52
Xmen 97 universe
Real_Walk53842025-12-29 16:04
The Fox timeline always messed me up a bit.
There was the Days of Future past timeline, which by MCU logic *happened* but also split into the better timeline where everyone survived.
Only to be wiped out a few years later as seen in Logan according to James Mangold. We *saw* that universe in the MCU already.
So this has to be a third identical timeline/universe.
djangogator2025-12-29 16:48
TrumpButtLick-verse
a_happy_future2025-12-29 17:07
The MCU
tremendouspiece2025-12-29 17:26
Your mama’s
demonoddy2025-12-29 17:50
I’m guessing the original fox universe after dofp. The one we will see in doomsday
frghu22025-12-29 18:27
They should show Morph, Jubilee and throw Ian McKellen in a muscle suit and this becomes Xmen 97's final send off.
Deadpool and Hugh Jackman arrive as the lone representatives of the Fox verse and are likely the only ones to survive narratively. The Fox Xmen are ignored.
Then reboot the mutants in the MCU with a new Jean Grey on Brand New Day and Wolverine from Secret Wars.
The rest of the future Xmen are teased in the secret wars post credit.
milesac2025-12-29 18:36
They will be going to that universe in Doomsday. So you’ll find out Dec 18, 2026.
Animated_effigy2025-12-29 18:38
The one that's going to get destroyed to save the main one.
Flashy-Ad91292025-12-29 18:40
Earth-10005
mega22222222222222222025-12-29 18:53
Whatever universe the doomsday x men are from
Slipstream24592025-12-29 19:04
Let me get my magic crystal ball out and then I'll tell you.
Kappg082025-12-29 19:29
I'll wait for Marvel to find out first before responding.
alienjesus420692025-12-29 19:40
# Earth-TRN1225
Fillenintheblanks2025-12-29 19:53
Is it just me or does the human look more cgi then the beast
Professional-Run33942025-12-29 20:03
Oh yeah they’re from my universe.
SnooCats84512025-12-29 20:05
Most likely the universe we’ll see in Doomsday/Secret Wars
Riley__642025-12-29 20:05
Probably post days of future past x-men
ebietoo2025-12-29 20:29
Photon is from The Marvels movie, isn’t that earth 616?
Afraid-Housing-68542025-12-29 20:39
The only information I can tell you is that it’s not 838
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See also young Beast looking nothing like X3 Beast
They'll treat this as *the* FoX-Men universe for the purposes of DD and SW. Then they'll likely reboot the mutant stuff with mostly a fresh cast.
If things get inconsistent, we can all pretend The Marvels, DP&W, DD and SW dealt with *some* X-Men universe that was a lot like the Fox ones but not quite.
I simply need answers for the obvious fact that I'm confused.
Maria Rambeau also never appears in that universe, and definitely not as an X-Men
Like others said, this universe is most likely new to us, introduced for the first time in that post-credit scene
but i’m pretty sure they mention reporting back Charles Xavier in that scene 😭
edit: realised a dead man would still have his name
Dead or alive he still has a name.
But these are the xmen we should be getting for Doomsday. Because of Rambou's location. The trailer that dropped we can see a burning building behind cyclops. Them talking about death in the film.
It would give an excuse for a fight to break out for the plot writers.
Foiled. I have been foiled.
616 = Avengers
828 = F4
10005 = X-Men
Isn't that Diddy and Biggie?
There was the Days of Future past timeline, which by MCU logic *happened* but also split into the better timeline where everyone survived.
Only to be wiped out a few years later as seen in Logan according to James Mangold. We *saw* that universe in the MCU already.
So this has to be a third identical timeline/universe.
Deadpool and Hugh Jackman arrive as the lone representatives of the Fox verse and are likely the only ones to survive narratively. The Fox Xmen are ignored.
Then reboot the mutants in the MCU with a new Jean Grey on Brand New Day and Wolverine from Secret Wars.
The rest of the future Xmen are teased in the secret wars post credit.