Here are some questions for you about Avengers: Doomsday.

1. How would you feel if Doctor Doom had no connection to Iron Man?

2. Would you prefer Doom's story to be told at the beginning of the film with a long flashback or just mentions like Thanos's?

3. What do you think of the visual above, assuming it's the ending? To me, it's a top-notch visual.

4. Which team do you want the film to focus on? In other words, which team would you like to see more prominently featured?

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DoomsdayThor2025-12-24 22:40

I only care about Thor and Loki

hiddenmihidden2025-12-24 22:40

If they give it right, an Iron Man becoming Doom wouldnt be bad.

carterwest362025-12-25 01:18

That’d be fucking terrible and lazy. Dr Doom is sovereign leader of Latveria and a sorcerer, Tony Stark is a genius who built a powerful suit.

bigbrainnowisdom2025-12-25 09:57

Well.. in infinite multiverse there will be one with Doom that also a stark.

I dunno maybe howard stern married a romani witch.

I just wishes that Doom is native of earth 828 (FF First step), someone that really close with Reed.

So answering OP question, i hope FF is taking center stage

Edahsrevlis2025-12-26 07:22

Not really. It’s right in character.

Tony Stark was responsible for a sizable number of villains in Phase 1-3: Stane, Hammer, Killian, Ultron, Zemo

And Howard Stark’s legacy was responsible for many others: Red Skull, Vanko, Zola, Pierce, Yellowjacket, Ross, Blonsky

Tony is a genius but also an heir. He’s not a traditional sovereign, but the modern industrialist equivalent, pulling strings and exerting influence without oversight.

He is a few lax regulations and an ego trip away from villainy half the time already. Exploring his misanthropic side is making good use of the multiverse.

And I can’t quite put my finger on it, but I suspect the concept of a ‘tech industrialist with more personal wealth than a small nation’ gone rogue might resonate.

onepostandbye2025-12-24 22:43

I have complete faith in the Russo Brothers, I don’t need the movie to be something I imagine, I believe what they create will be more inventive, more exciting, more enjoyable.

Gbbq832025-12-24 23:22

This is a great point. I think most fans expected the snap to happen and for the good guys to win in the end, it didn’t stop infinity War and Endgame being peak marvel films

LoFiTae2025-12-25 01:35

IW was def peak. Endgame def was not

ninjapro982025-12-26 04:56

I’m surprised this is downvoted, endgame doesn’t hold up nearly as well as infinity war does

Edahsrevlis2025-12-26 06:59

Even if Infinity War were the better film (it’s not), it’s not an easy win for either. They’re both extremely good.

LoFiTae2025-12-26 14:45

IW was def better. Thanos felt like an actual threat. You have all these stories and characters that have been built up for years culminate, converge and crossover in an organic, natural way that doesn’t feel forced. The character interactions are way better, more dynamic and memorable. There’s way more lines of dialogue from that movie that you can pick out and hold up as an example of amazing writing due to character dynamics, the story being told, and many other reasons. IW also has a way higher rewatch value.

Endgame Thanos feels more like a mustache twirler who’s only there so that the film still has a bad guy. Most of the emotional high and low points are heavily reliant on nostalgia of the past films, but not in a clever or subtle way like IW did, (and IW was also WAY less reliant on nostalgia to make itself feel like a good movie). Where IW would say “hey this how this film and this film connects here, this is the dynamic that is now set up, etc etc” Endgame would be more like “aww remember when this happened? Okay so cry or laugh now (whichever is appropriate for the scene), hurry hurry hurry”. Endgame was banking more on nostalgia bait instead of trying to build on nostalgia to push itself forward like IW did.

But hey, different folks, different strokes

LoFiTae2025-12-26 14:23

You gotta remember, this is the land of shills. If you’re not professing your undying love for everything MCU here, it’s gonna be downvoted so honestly I’m not surprised at all

Buhos_En_Pantelones2025-12-25 00:25

Keep in mind, even though they're heavily involved, they don't write the films.

onepostandbye2025-12-25 00:27

At the highest levels of Hollywood, top directors dictate the scripts they film, even if they aren’t the writers. This is going to be exactly the story they wanted to make.

carterwest362025-12-25 01:15

Stephen McFeely is writing this story with Michael Waldron. Stephen McFeely wrote endgame and infinity wars and other marvel projects like Civil War and the Winter Soldier, Waldron wrote the tv show Loki, MoM etc.

Directors and writers have to work in harmony and I think you don’t understand how a film is made, there are entire writing rooms for these movies lead by head writers like McFeely.

Russo brothers are amazing directors but they don’t get to tell McFeely what to do and vice versa. I swear some of you folks think blocbuster films get made by just the director when the sheer size of the sound and VFX team alone are more than 50 people.

The credited writers oversee the script but still have writing rooms to enrich stories, directors get to set the tone for the film but don’t get to change the script.

‘At the highest levels of hollywood, top directors dictate the scripts’ is about the dumbest thing I’ve read today. If you give the Russo brothers a weak script you’d end up with a visually stunning action flick that has a thin story. Give the Russo brothers a great script and you get endgame.

Russos didn’t write infinity war nor did they write endgame, but they are in harmony with excellent writers like McFeely which creates the magical films.

Infinity War and Endgame was written by McFeely and Christopher Markus, writers deserve more credit because people really think Russo brothers are the brain behind everything just because they are the directors?

Buhos_En_Pantelones2025-12-25 01:19

Gotcha. I got confused because the language of your comment heavily implied you thought the Russo's were the ones that came up with the story.

carterwest362025-12-25 01:05

What about the writers room? The Russo brothers achieve stunning visuals but I am even more excited for Michael Waldron and Stephen McFeely as they are the heart of the story.

jackson501112025-12-24 22:45

1. That's what I'm hoping for. No connection.
2. Like Thanos which would let the story flow better rather than dump doom at the start then let you follow the other characters story
3. Visual wise not sure what to say. Design wise it's quite good.
4. Ideally the F4 since doom is there villain.

Jermz123452025-12-24 22:47

I really don’t want Doom connected to Iron Man at all, but I find it unlikely they’ll bring back RDJ for it and not do something with that, especially with Steve Roger’s returning too

laxtro2025-12-24 23:20

I expect they'll make some comment about people filling different roles in different worlds and call it a day.

mrbaryonyx2025-12-25 01:37

nobody's ready for the possibility that Doom is his universe's Robert Downey Jr.

MBCnerdcore2025-12-27 06:23

Victor Von Doom IS... Doctor Do-Little! coming only to theaters!

Dangerman13372025-12-25 16:19

I *think* that they may do a twisty recon that the Tony we've seen in the MCU was Victor Von Doom adopted by Howard Stark with his with Wife after miscarriage/stillborn. Very speculative ofc.

SiMpLeJaCk6782025-12-28 03:42

Ive posted this on another thread, but I want to see how others feel about this prediction...

Tony isn't Doom. Its a red herring. He is an iron man variant that lost his daughter in an incursion event caused by the sacred timeline avengers. He goes throughout doomsday dressed as Doom, kidnapping the other avengers children as retribution and to lure them all into one place. I believe he is the Superior Iorn Man version and is recruited by Doom. At the end of Doomsday, the real Doom will be introduced and lead into Secret Wars, where we will see the heroes we know battle against their evil counterparts ie. Steve Roger vs Captain Hydra ect...I also believe that the real Dooms intention is to collect cosmic power/entities like Infinity Stones...Loki holding the time threads, Love embodying eternity & Franklin's Reality warping ability...all to become the MCUs version of the Beyonder or something like this.

aRegularWhiteGuy2026-01-14 04:14

Idk how this would play out on screen but reading it was fun as hell. Thanks for this can't wait to see if this is close..it very believable they would do something kike this

cheezyfilms2025-12-24 22:51

Why would you assume that is from the ending of the film? Lol it's obviously just a professional shoot showing off the Doom costume, they're not going to show the ending shot of the film as the first piece of promotional material we've ever seen.

Movies aren't shot that way, either so

Also, the ending is 100% going to have him as God Emperor Doom, not regular Doom

Okami06022025-12-24 22:52

1 - Happy, and honestly nothing besides the fact that it's the same actor points towards them having any connection at all
2 - Both is fine, there's no right way to do it
3 - It's great, I just wish the plates would've been gold like the comics but it's honestly the best he has ever looked in live-action
4 - Ideally, all of them should have just as much focus as everyone else. In practice, it's likely that it will be the Avengers (it's an avengers movie, duh), which isn't necessarily bad. If I had to choose one, it would definitely be the X-Men, I've been dying to see the mutants in the MCU ever since Disney acquired Fox, and the taste we got in Deadpool and Wolverine only increased that feeling.

a_o2025-12-24 22:54

i just wanna see an incursion play out to the end of one or both universes. establish the real threat!

Starvel422025-12-24 22:58

1. I'd feel good and prefer that. Thematic parallels are all I want at most

2. I don't care cause I trust the Russo's to introduce Doom, especially after they did Thanos.

3. Very good, love the look

4. Tbh I don't need it to focus on a single team over others, I'd prefer they do it like Infinity War where the story focuses more on Thanos and Doom has the most screentime.

carterwest362025-12-25 01:19

What thematic paralel would have Stark become a Latverian ? It’d make no sense at all

Starvel422025-12-25 01:27

You misunderstood me, I said I'd feel good if there was *no* connection between Doom and Stark outside of thematic parallels.

carterwest362025-12-25 22:43

Ah my bad! Totally agree

juances192025-12-24 23:15

1) He doesn't need to have any

2) No way they can do a long lore dump and still have time for *literally everyone else* considering how big the cast is, we'll learn as we go

3) It's definitely an improvement over the Fox era Doom, great that they gave him more detail than just a green robe and cover his skin in gray CGI. But still wanna see him in action before the final veredict

4) Strange, Shang Chi and the F4. Honestly I don't think most heroes stand a chance against Doom. (there's Sentry but I assume he's gonna be the wildcard saved for the end because of how dangerous it can be)

FDVP2025-12-24 23:20

1. Just fine

2. Doom has already won. Told non-linear through events we already know.

3. Like Ultron, Im interested in how they do the mouth in live action. That suit above is ok but Tony evolved, Dooms should too. If it’s nano, then I hope we get a SLOW suit-up to get a good look at it. Biggest beef from Kang, not enuf suit.

4. The Cabal

Agathario-10312025-12-24 23:26

For 2. about his backstory I saw a theory a while back that at some point in the movie they would sic Sentry on Doom, and he would get trapped in the Void briefly and that would do most of the heavy lifting, personally I liked that idea and hope they go that route

footwith4toes2025-12-24 23:40

1. I’d prefer it. (Edit: characters that knew Tony should be conflicted mainly thinking of Steve and Spidey)

2. Haven’t given it much thought but I like how Thanos story was told

3. Great stuff

4. Fantastic 4 but I think it’ll be multiple.

Realistic_Analyst_262025-12-24 23:44

1) I’d like at least an acknowledgment of Iron Man and Doom looking alike but Doom should be an independent character.

2) Depends on the rest of the film. Can’t say how the pacing will fit without knowing the rest.

3) That’s Doom alright. Wouldn’t mind if they did use that design.

4) None of the teams. Doom should be the focus like Thanos was in Infinity War. By doing that, the F4 would be the focus by default if they knew what they were doing.

HoowaiArYuhMaDough2025-12-24 23:48

To answer #2, I feel like a special presentation released halfway before Doomsday comes out would be nice. Probably not gonna happen tho lol

siderhater42025-12-24 23:59

Who will die

Coilspun2025-12-25 00:19

What do you mean by the visual above? What even is it? Are you talking about Doom's look?

Honestly, these questions are slop.

Ok_Scientist19252025-12-25 00:48

Honestly, I’d be fine with it, maybe even prefer it. Doom is strong enough as a character to stand on his own without being tied to Tony Stark. While parallels between them can be interesting, forcing a direct connection risks making Doom feel like an Iron Man echo rather than his own fully realised threat. Doom works best when he’s rooted in his own ideology: pride, control, destiny, and intellect combined with mysticism. If anything, keeping him separate makes him feel more timeless and dangerous.

I’d want a middle ground. Not a massive origin dump at the start, but more than just vague name-drops. Subtle flashbacks or layered reveals throughout the film would be ideal. Thanos worked with minimal exposition because his motivation was simple. Doom is more complex, so giving us controlled glimpses into his past would add depth without killing the momentum.

Nice pose, I guess

I’d want the focus split, but if I had to choose, the Fantastic Four should be front and centre. Doom’s presence hits hardest when contrasted with Reed Richards and the F4’s dynamic. That said, I’d still want meaningful involvement from the Avengers, especially characters who represent leadership and morality, because Doom challenges both intellect *and* ideology. The clash should feel bigger than just fists; it should be about power, responsibility and who deserves to shape the future.

akirivan2025-12-25 00:56

I 100% hope there is no connection between Doom and Iron Man and that he never takes off his mask, therefore needing no explanation for the resemblance

[deleted]2025-12-27 04:00

This is what I want.

xreddawgx2025-12-25 01:16

I would really prefer if we got proper Von Doom and not played by RDJ

carterwest362025-12-25 01:16

Why would Dr Doom be connected to Iron Man? Iron Man is dead.

mrbaryonyx2025-12-25 01:36

1. It would be weird, but I'd be fine with this. I think its preferable, even.

2. I guess not a *long* flashback, but I would like it to be established at the beginning. I'm thinking the Gollum scene in Return of the King.

3. Not scary enough.

4. Sam's Avengers would make the more sense but I'm biased to Thunderbolts because I love them. I'm a die hard Fox X-Men fan since day one, but I also don't think I need to see them that bad and I don't need to see the OG Avengers team ever again.

RihoSucks2025-12-25 02:49

1. I hope he doesn't have any stark connections.

2. The film should BE his story

3. Its fine. I dont have a strong connection to doom so its whatever

4. It should focus on doom

donbagert2025-12-25 04:15

For #3, I'm not sure where that rod between Doom's legs was about.

jmoney7772025-12-25 04:50

1. I would feel doomed

2. I hope it’s good

3. Mark 86 looking pretty cool

4. The Avengers

CaptHayfever2025-12-25 05:14

1. Elated.
2. Either way has pros & cons as far as narrative pacing.
3. A cardboard cutout in somebody's living room? Weird ending.
4. I want a balance between the teams.

Kornerbrandon2025-12-25 10:13

No faith at all. They are scrambling and have nothing. The film will be a mess and get destroyed by Dune.

ProfessorEscanor2025-12-25 15:14

1. I'd love it but it's still stupid to cast Iron Man to play him.

2.Doom needs build up so I can care for him so give me backstory.

3. Good costume. No real complaints.

4. Screw the X-Men. The Phase 4 cast need screen time more than the cameos.

NamelessGamer_12025-12-25 15:32

1. I know this is unpopular, but I need the film to address why Doom looks like Stark. If they don't, it means the only reason he's played by RDJ is bait casting in order to get people to watch the movie and make more $$$. I know that is obviously the ulterior motive, but I'd rather it connect to the story somehow. This doesn't necessarily mean he has to be a variant, but there has to be some explanation
2. Probably should get sporadic flashbacks whenever it makes sense. Having a long Doom section at the beginning just doesn't feel right structurally
3. Looks great!
4. Whatever services the story they are trying to tell. But I'm obviously excited to see the Avengers (mainly Thor, Cap and Loki), Fantastic Four and the X Men too

Aromatic-Cupcake48022025-12-25 15:56

That’s what I would want.
Mentions and flashbacks.
It’s perfect.
The Avengers and the Fantastic Four

Armandonerd2025-12-25 16:13

1. There needs to be some kind of connection from this Dr. Doom with Iron-Man

2. Maybe flashbacks with the creation of the multiverses, why is this one coming.

3. Not sure how to answer this...

4. Everyone honestly. Avengers, The New Avengers, Fantastic 4, the X-Men, Deadpool, Spider-Man, the defenders, punisher and I know this isn't a hero, but what does Kang have to do with this or will we see his story conclude here or in secret wars?

Accurate-Director-232025-12-25 17:54

1: Honestly, I'll be a little relieved.

2: A mix of both, I think there will be several flashbacks scattered throughout the film, but also mentions from other characters, presenting Doom as a legend that everyone knows.

3: Even if it's the real costume, it won't look like that; RDJ's build has to be taken into account. Otherwise, I like it.

4: I'm eager to see how the Avengers will develop team chemistry, knowing that they will be made up of characters we've never seen together before.

SpaceOperaMan2025-12-25 18:49

I always wanted Doom to be introduced as someone the heroes have to turn to as an ally of circumstance, not realizing he will betray them for his own ambition later. Would prefer no Iron Man connection. Doom's backstory should be mysterious, only fleshing it out after he turns on the heroes. The visual above is spot-on. The movie should hand the reigns from the OG Avengers to the Fantastic Four + Shuri (I think Wakanda and Latveria should be framed as rivals).

Advanced_Pack42412025-12-25 19:39

>How would you feel if Doctor Doom had no connection to Iron Man?

GOOD

>Would you prefer Doom's story to be told at the beginning of the film with a long flashback or just mentions like Thanos's?

Maybe Reed narrate his story like in his debut

>What do you think of the visual above, assuming it's the ending?

Look cool

>Which team do you want the film to focus on?

The New Avengers, who got a movie where we empathize with them, and F4, since Doom is their villain.

Instead a his team, I think Sam should have been the leader of the New Avengers.

Aerolithe_Lion2025-12-25 21:21

1. I’m counting on it

2. Long flashback is not the best

3. As in his suit? Looks great

4. Thunderbolts

CharlieW772025-12-26 00:33

I’d be fine if there’s no connection, but casting RDJ just has to be intentional and links Doom and Tony somehow.

I almost don’t want ANY explanation, sort of like Heath Ledger’s Joker.

[deleted]2025-12-27 04:07

I’d be fine with the explanation being “Robert is a good actor and we knew casting him would get us attention”

RedK_12342026-01-13 05:52

I really do hope that's it. That they honestly thought that Downey would make a great Doom, instead of trying to make an Iron Man connection.

Soulwarfare422025-12-26 00:51

1) I would feel great if they did that but the reality is that this is the Multiverse Saga and there is no way they casted RDJ, an actor notable for playing Iron Man, to have no connection whatsoever

2) An exposition dump at the beginning is not a great way to do that. Just gradually show him throughout the film as a threat and we slowly discover his motives just as the main characters do

3) It is a great design

4) Sam's Avengers team and Fantastic Four. Sam's Avenger team is something we barely know about and plus, I want the Russo's to do justice for Sam's Captain America. Fantastic Four because Doom is their nemesis

Bujakaa922025-12-26 09:07

I just hope Doom is not one off villain. Kinda nonbuild up into him

ZekeMoss182025-12-26 19:27

1 - I would prefer it this way

2 - They absolutely need somewhat of a backstory. Not sure if it needs to be really long, but just about 20-25 minutes of some key moments showing his powers and tech and also showing his personality.

3 - Personally, I like this look. I never expected it to be a 1/1 from the comics. I have seen as few different costumes of Doom's over the years from the comics to action figures, and this is just a live action variation. I was mostly worried they would drastically change the mask and go away from the tunic and hood/cap.

4 - As a Doom fan, and I have seen the Thunderbolts, F4, X-Men, Wakandans and Namor already. I want a Doom centered focus personally.

MBCnerdcore2025-12-27 06:10

1. Depends on how it is presented, but there is absolutely no way to really talk about this scenario since there are multiple universes worth of Tony Starks he may be connected to even if it wasn't specifically the variant that died killing Thanos. Kang was 'connected' to Reed Richards, but he could be one of an infinite amount of Kangs descended from any of the multiverse Reeds.

2. I'd prefer multiple flashbacks leading to a third act twist reveal of key info about his backstory just as it becomes a game changer in the 'present day'.

3. The ending of what? The movie? Secret Wars? The costume being tweaked? It looks great, no idea where that art came from but I assume you will tell me it's from a leak of some trailer teaser. I assume that yes, at some point in the movie, we will see Dr. Doom in his full comic outfit looking like that image. Don't care where in the movie he stands like that with his arms crossed.

4. Ideally, the veteran heroes from pre-Endgame have made some key errors (losing Wanda to the Darkhold corruption, defeating Kang by trapping him in a device that allows his survival, pissing off Arishem, creating Incursions in MoM, The Marvels, and Deadpool&Wolverine, letting Cap branch his timeline to live in the 40s, etc). It's going to be up to the all new teams to figure things out and save the day. My ideas for the different group-ups are F4+Thunderbolts (based on the Thunderbolts post-credits), Fox X-men+The Marvels/Young Avengers (based on The Marvels post-credits), and then Sam Wilson's Avengers - Hulk+SpiderMan+Thor+Shang Chi+Wongers+(everyone else plus cameos and a Steve)

TelFaradiddle2025-12-27 11:09

1. "He just *happens* to look exactly like Tony" would be absolutely batshit insane. No way this happens.

2. Flashbacks, but not at the start. Interspersed throughout.

3. Looks like Doom. Not much else to say.

4. For the sake of not turning it into a total clusterfuck, I think at least one team needs to be more in the background in Doomsday, and then a big part of Secret Wars. Similar to Ant-Man, Hawkeye, and Captain Marvel sitting Infinity War out and then being big parts of Endgame. Focus primarily on the Avengers and New Avengers, and the Fantastic Four. Obviously the X-men are going to be there, but I think they should be less fleshed out in Doomsday, then have Secret Wars begin with the story of how they got to where we are now. Like if the X-men show up in Doomsday as a sudden incursion near the end, have Secret Wars begin with "What the X-men were doing during most of Doomsday."

cowpool202025-12-28 16:35

1. Extremely happy.

2. Just mentioned. In a scene with Reed Richards. Assuming the MCU’s Reed and Victor know each other.

3. Looks great!

4. X-Men and F4.

IndependentBit97452025-12-28 19:31

1. Disappointed, because that would mean that the casting of RDJ was for nothing but cheap nostalgia bait

2. There should be a flashback at some point before the big climax, not the beginning

3. Beautiful

4. The film should be focused more on Doom than anyone else, but if I had to choose what team gets more screen time, it should be The Fantastic Four

Such-Manufacturer3962025-12-28 21:30

I wouldn't care
Just like thanos
Same
Groot.

rkpkpkjpojpoo2026-01-08 05:29

I expect harley to come back as iron man and fight dr doom..

ComfortableOwn57512026-01-10 15:59

Lol you guys are weak. Not only do I hope there's a connection, I hope it's a Tony variant, and that there's another Tony variant that comes out as Iron Man and fights Doom Tony. Fuck it!!!! Let's go crazy

RedK_12342026-01-13 05:49

1. Yes, I prefer Doom have no connection to Tony Stark. And this would be easy to do, as in the comics, Doom is horribly scarred underneath his iconic mask; so even having the same actor as Tony Stark wouldn't have to change that. Unfortunately, though, I am expecting a HUGE connection to Tony Stark. There's no way Marvel brings back Robert Downey Jr. to have him play a someone with no connection to his last character.
2. A bit of both. Whatever they do with Doom, he hasn't been set up the way Thanos has. Even before *Infinity War*, the hints we got of him throughout the various films already gave us an idea of what we were getting when he finally took center-stage. Doom doesn't have that. To expect their audience to care about this character, they have to do a lot.
3. Kickass visual. Nothing more to say. Doom is iconic for his look and how he carries it. IT never fails to inspire awe, and if nothing else, Marvel will definitely gives us that.
4. The Fantastic Four, if only because they canonically have the most personal and direct feud with Doom. There's also the fact that the status of the Avengers team is up in the air. Like, yeah, Yelena's group were declared the Avengers at the end of *Thunderbolts*, but there's also the team Sam is apparently building. The X-Men are my favourite, but focusing on them too much can take away interest in the rest of the MCU cast, which is what this movie and *Secret Wars* should be focusing on getting us invested in.

ecosapien102026-01-18 01:53

1. I’d have mixed feelings, on one hand it would be nice that after all this time, we get Tony back and see how things would go if he was a villain, but I would like Doctor Doom to have his own storyline.
2. I’d prefer Doom’s story be told throughout the movie, it builds suspense. Makes the character more ominous.
3. Doom looks badass.
4. I really want Monica to have the most screen time, but if I had to choose a team, I’d want X-Men to be prominently featured in the movie. After seeing their team dynamics in the fox movies, I’m interested.