Am I the only one who doesn’t want Chris Evan’s back in Marvel movies?

I am feeling very fatigued with the current movies that have come out over the past few years. Ever since the infinity stone saga has ended (with the exception of no way home), I have been less and less excited about the new moves coming out.

I understand that nostalgia sells and it gets people excited, but how much of it do we really need?

Chris’s story was told and finished and imo so was RDJ. I think he could make a cool villain in the doomsday film, but is it what it really needs?

Idk if it’s me getting tired of the past 20 years of marvel movies (DC included)or if I am tired of this “nostalgia” craze going on in the economy. At some point you have to move on.

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jmb--4122025-12-23 19:03

This is like an incredibly popular opinion

benjaminsix62025-12-23 19:03

I disagree that Steve’s story had to be done after endgame, he’s Captain America, and the hero’s job never being truly done fits his character and his arc imo. Steve wouldn’t just sit by and let doom run shit, he’d step up and help

The_Sexy_Skeksis2025-12-23 23:26

>the hero’s job never being truly done fits his character and his arc imo

I very much disagree with this.

*Avengers: Endgame* very intentionally gave Steve and Tony juxtaposed endings. Tony has always been selfish, but he grows enough over over the course of the Infinity Saga that he became the guy Steve thought he couldn't by in *The Avengers* (*"You're not the guy to make the sacrifice play, to lay down on a wire and let the other guy crawl over you"*). Steve, meanwhile, has never lived for himself. Since 1944, Steve has been doing the right thing at the cost of his own safety and happiness. But he's also now a man out of time, whose ideals don't line up to that of the modern world he now lives in.

I feel like dragging him back in kind of tramples all over the beauty of *Avengers: Endgame*'s mirrored endings with Tony dying for the greater good and Steve finally being just a little selfish.

benjaminsix62025-12-23 23:34

But he's also now a man out of time, whose ideals don't line up to that of the modern world he now lives in.

This really only reigns true if you stopped watching after avengers 1. In the winter soldier , the whole movie is about Steve learning to still be a hero in a world where ideals are not so black and white as he once believed them to be

The_Sexy_Skeksis2025-12-23 23:45

>ideals are not so black and white as he once believed them to be

That's... kind of my point.

In *Captain America: The Winter Soldier*, Steve *does* see that the world's morals are no longer so black and white. But he doesn't respond by adapting and compromising his values. His solution isn't to continue operating in morally gray zones, but to tear the whole system down because its corrupt and violates his moral line.

Once again in *Captain America: Civil War,* he refused to compromise his morals and give in to the way the modern world wants him to be. His refusal to give into the UN and compromise on their autonomy costs him his place in the Avengers, damages his friendships, and puts him on the run from the authorities.

He can adapt and survive in the new world, sure, but he will never truly belong in it.

benjaminsix62025-12-24 01:10

Okay dude well I’m happy he’s coming back and I’m excited he’s in the movie , I’m too tired and employed to argue about it

YaBoiShadowNinja2025-12-24 02:24

actually if you've been paying attention, sam wilson is captain america now

benjaminsix62025-12-24 02:29

yes and he had the worst Disney plus series and one of the worst films since endgame I’m not one of the only people who doesn’t give af about his character lol

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sanddragon9392025-12-24 06:51

As he was in the comics for a while. And eventually he went back to being Falcon.

UberPheonix2025-12-24 02:27

You're just forgiving a corporation for being lazy. If they can't tell a new story with new themes, why tell one at all?

hircine162025-12-23 19:05

nah man, out of millions of people you are the oy
only one who ever thought this. /s

servetheale2025-12-23 19:10

The people who genuinely have these thoughts must have some sort of narcissistic disorder

Diablo_N_Doc2025-12-24 01:37

I've seen so many "they ruined Cap's arc" comments today. It's crazy how these people saw the whole movie a year before the rest of us!

Repulsive_Season_9082025-12-24 13:32

We don't need to see the movie to know that Cap's arc will continue, which means it didn't end in Endgame, which means Endgame is now hollow and fake and isn't a beautiful finale everyone thought it to be.

Shane_Tolley2025-12-23 19:05

Yes

CustardOtherwise51332025-12-23 19:05

I can’t wait to see him in this. He was my favorite.

Desi_Vigor2025-12-23 19:06

How else would we get Captain America?

noel_vb2025-12-23 19:07

No, because that's every other post complaining about something that hasn't happened yet. Just let them cook, do whatever they are going to do, justify the choices, THEN if it doesn't please you, have at it. This is going to be a long year if everyone is going to be armchair director/writer for Marvel.

MsAndrea22025-12-23 19:07

You obviously don't know how comics work. Captain America has been going since 1940. He's died ten times. The idea that Marvel fans would go nah, had enough of him thank you, is absurd. This is how it works. Get on board or jump off, but this is the show.

Darth__Revan892025-12-23 19:16

We've not had the MCU nearly as long as comics, so already resorting to "resurrecting character" trope screams desperation.

And technically looking at financials, people jumping off is how they got in the predicament they're in.

spidervenom6192025-12-23 20:44

My man they were using the Resurrecting character trope in the comics like 10 years into it's run.

Whether Movies heads like it or not, Death is and always been "meaningless", It's how your tell that story that surronded that death that matters, not if a character died or not.

sanddragon9392025-12-24 06:53

Technically Steve's return isn't a resurrection...it involves time-travel.

Now if RDJ's Tony Stark shows up (the *same* Tony who died in Endgame, not a variant) *then* you can cry about resurrection!

Champagnekudo2025-12-23 21:20

This is such a disingenuous point when a big part of the MCU atleast in the beginning was that didn’t have to be 1:1 with the comics. Which they seemed to be standing firm on…atleast until they started dropping all that mid. Now they’ve gotta lean on nostalgia. It’s very clearly not a matter of being true to any comics like you guys like to claim, it’s just pure cynicism and greed.

sanddragon9392025-12-24 06:58

As opposed to what - idealism and generosity? Is *that* what you think Marvel Studios was pre-2019?

Champagnekudo2025-12-24 20:48

Dawg what are you even saying LMAO

TyrusX2025-12-23 19:07

Yeah, I’m so done with

TrueLegateDamar2025-12-23 19:08

The problem is that Disney is desperate to rekindle some of the old Endgame hype for a project that will have a half billion budget, and Anthony Mackie's Cap failing to be as popular as the Evans Cap.

Bosch19712025-12-23 19:13

Do you think if Sam was the most popular character of all time that they still wouldn't bring back Steve?

TrueLegateDamar2025-12-23 19:17

No, but I doubt he'd get a trailer dedicated solely to himself clearly being one of the main characters and instead be more of a supporting ensemble character.

sanddragon9392025-12-24 06:59

He 100% *would* have a trailer as one of the main characters.

Just like Deadpool & Wolverine made the return of Logan the centrepiece of its marketing even if Deadpool alone sells a *lot* of tickets.

BZenMojo2025-12-24 20:03

Steve's first titular movie made nowhere near what Sam's did. And Steve has never had to carry a movie by himself ever since. Natasha's first titular movie also made way more than Steve's did. And she carried Steve's second movie for him.

Maybe Steve's PERCEIVED as being so popular because he had a starring role in a new movie every year for eight years? Maybe the reason Shang-Chi isn't "popular," despite making more money than First Avenger regardless of inflation, despite having the best audience reviews for any MCU movie ever made, is because he's been in 1 movie the last 5 years? Maybe if the MCU stopped specifically sabotaging its new characters so it can have an excuse to do dumbass pandering like resurrecting a guy it spent upwards of 5 billion dollars in constant marketing on for almost a decade the new characters would have a chance.

risingsuncoc2025-12-23 19:09

There are billions of people on this planet, you’re not that unique.

Wtygrrr2025-12-23 19:10

So was Wolverine’s and really all the X-Men.

GreenLynx11112025-12-23 19:10

That's Hollywood - keep giving the people the same thing over and over and over again until it doesn't sell.

They tried introducing a shit ton of new characters and because the quality was lower than past television and movies - they're going back to what they think 'works'.

Sadly they're missing the actual point which is quality.

spidervenom6192025-12-23 20:45

Or you know that's comics, Death doesn't meant a thing cause at the end of the day everyone but Uncle Ben can be brought back.

CapnRogersNbrhood2025-12-23 19:11

If you didn’t like anything from the post Endgame slate…they’re doing this for/because people like you.

As for me, I only ever wanted Evans back if it was as OUR Cap. I had no interest in watching a variant who was slightly different, if he was coming back it better be the Steve that we watched for a decade. So I’m pretty happy with it, even as someone who has enjoyed much of the Multiverse Saga.

Character_Skirt_43192025-12-23 19:12

Why would you have to move on? If they have more great stories then why stop? Too many good movies ?

Dazzler_30002025-12-23 19:12

It just feels way too soon.

Granted it has been like 7 years by the time Doomsday comes around but a) thats still not long enough and b) it feels like even less time has passed because we've had very little from the MCU in those 7 years.

Steve should have only come back after we had an entire new roster of characters that we knew and enjoyed as much as we did the OG Avengers. The fun would have then been seeing these characters struggle then Steve steps up.

But post-Endgame has been a pretty big mess - They didnt cull the herd enough so they still have to manage legacy characters and then they didnt introduce new characters quick enough.

Shang-Chi should have had 3 movies by now, I'm not a huge fan but we should have had a 3rd Black Panther, She-Hulk should have had a movie, Moon Knight maybe and ideally the F4 should have had atleast 2 movies before going into a Doom based film.

I get that the F4 will likely still be around post Secret Wars but I don't feel anything along the lines of 'How's Steve gonna interact with Reed or Shang-Chi'.

-Darkslayer2025-12-23 19:40

Personally I’m baffled they didn’t really capitalize on how popular Doctor Strange was - 900M for a divisive seauel without China? Him along with Tom’s Spidey was their next Tony/Steve and it’s baffling he’s only shown up once since Endgame

deemoorah2025-12-24 03:59

There's someone higher up in Marvel quarter who absolutely hates Dr Strange, I'm pretty sure of it. Even his fate in comic is just ridiculous now. They ruin his lore, strip him off from his supporting characters and mantle and cast him away in asgard with D-list characters no one knows.

-Darkslayer2025-12-24 04:01

What’s weird though is that Feige has gone on record and said that Strange is his favorite character

deemoorah2025-12-24 04:13

I mean, all Feige does is lying out of his ass. Bet he was saying that before they announced Strange movie, he also declared Strange as the anchor of MCU and where's the result? Nothing. Not even BC name is in that movie

Adorable_Ad_34782025-12-24 06:05

7 years is more than enough, mate.

>I get that the F4 will likely still be around post Secret Wars but I don't feel anything along the lines of 'How's Steve gonna interact with Reed or Shang-Chi'.

Nobody gives a shit about Steve interacting with Shang Chi. But Steve interacting with Wolverine, Deadpool, Magneto, Cyclops, and Tobey Spidey? That's gonna be hella peak.

sanddragon9392025-12-24 07:01

Everyone talks about how we should see RDJ, Tobey and Hugh on-screen. I think Chris should be at that meeting as well.

CommunityDragon1842025-12-23 19:13

Y’all need to get a grip. They’re superhero movies.

CamBam_20262025-12-23 19:13

While I’m still very excited about it, I was watching that clip and saying “why can’t they let him goooo”

P1zzaMonkey2025-12-23 19:14

It’s honestly just directors having favourites. They clearly enjoy Cap a lot and want to use him however much they can

AustinAlexanderK972025-12-23 19:15

Nope, I'm right there with you. The original Captain America had a great story and a great end to his story.

I think it just shows how desperate Marvel's getting and that they don't have faith in the new characters they're introducing.

Visco08252025-12-23 20:21

It honestly makes me have less confidence in the film. They are willing to degrade the arcs of both Captain America and stark to try and make this movie better.

But just because they have Evans and RDJ doesn’t mean the movie will instantly be good. Captain America 1, iron man 2 and avengers 2 were all very average.

I think they are putting way too much faith in people’s nostalgia for early MCU without putting focus on an actual good story.

hodgesauce2025-12-24 00:18

I just had the same thought about Cap 1, Avengers 2, etc. The actors earned those beloved places over time, didn't just happen instantly. Just because people aren't crazy about the newer characters now as they are for RDJ/Evans doesn't mean they never will be. But they need the chance to earn that respect.

Visco08252025-12-24 00:31

Exactly. And on the flip side of it, you can’t just assume the audience will always go crazy for RDJ and Evans. Look at Star Wars. It came back with a vengeance when episode 7 came out. But then over time it staled and now it’s a very rough brand.

RDJ and Evans and the MCU peaked with infinity war and end game. I am very sure we will not recreate that with the same cast this time. Maybe they could do it with a different cast of primary heroes but not with the old ones

sanddragon9392025-12-24 06:48

Star Wars is the wrong example here because a major reason why fans soured on the Sequel Trilogy is due to them *killing off* the original characters one after the other and replacing them with new characters. That said, commercially, those films were a *massive* success...leaps and bounds ahead of most Marvel fare post-Endgame.

And the draws of Doomsday/Secret Wars aren't just Evans and RDJ. It's the Fox X-men too. This is a very different story, with a *much* larger scope and scale. RDJ isn't even playing the same character, and Evans is playing a Steve Rogers in a very different situation that's pretty new territory for him.

AustinAlexanderK972025-12-24 01:12

That's really been Disney's/Marvel's problem since Endgame. They introduce these cool new characters, and then they take FOREVER to get a sequel or another appearance out. Shang-Chi's movie will have been out for 5 years with no sequel by the time Doomsday releases. Yelena, Red Guardian, and U.S. Agent went almost 5 years between appearances.

NothingReallyAndYou2025-12-24 02:16

Why is everyone assuming he doesn't still have that same story ending?

If bad shit's happening to time lines, why couldn't there be a scenario where Back In The Past Steve realizes that he needs to fight a threat there in the past? He doesn't have to return to the future to feel the need to become Captain America again.

Maybe Steve's role will be to fight right where he is in time, and set up clues and assistance for the Avengers in the future. Maybe that's what brings him to the moment of handing the shield over to Sam Wilson.

sanddragon9392025-12-24 06:49

True.

Though honestly I feel this is more a case of the timeline being broken, and Secret Wars will end with a new reality and a new rebooted/recast Steve Rogers being introduced down the line.

NothingReallyAndYou2025-12-24 09:34

I hope not, only because I'm not a fan of reboots. I'd prefer new characters to retreads of stories that have already been told.

sanddragon9392025-12-24 09:40

Well, Feige has already confirmed we're getting *some* kind of reboot (he calls it a 'reset'/'singular timeline') at the end of Secret Wars, and that Steve and Tony will be recast someday.

NothingReallyAndYou2025-12-24 09:55

I've heard. I'll likely stop watching new projects at that point, or stick with the projects that are set apart from the Avengers stories.

N8CCRG2025-12-24 02:41

I don't think it's "doesn't have faith". This is absolutely a response to what sells tickets. The audience wants nostalgia and fan service. Deadpool & Wolverine wasn't $1.3 billion good, it was $300 million good and a billion dollars of nostalgia and fan service.

BZenMojo2025-12-24 19:28

I just think Marvel is taking the wrong lessons away from this run of films. Iron Man had 9 starring roles, complete arcs, complete stories over 11 years. Of course he was popular, everyone knows who he is. Thor got 7 starring roles over 8 years. Steve Rogers got 7 starring roles over 8 years. That's a Thor or Steve Rogers movie every year for 8 years. Even Hulk got 5 starring roles over 11 years.

Shang-Chi has had 1 movie in 5 years. First Avenger made nowhere near as much money as Shang-Chi did. None of the movies Steve Rogers or Tony Stark have been in have had the audience reviews of Shang-Chi and Shang-Chi's critic reviews are higher than most of the Tony Stark and Steve Rogers movies.

And the MCU's response to this problem is... to resurrect guys who had a movie a year for a decade and shove them into a giant movie with 30 main characters who haven't been in projects in almost 5 years. Because they think audiences are done with the MCU as a CONCEPT.

This is the dumbest crap ever. And I hope they realize someone who was 8 years old when Endgame came out will have spent half of their life not thinking about Steve Rogers.

NamelessAnxiety2025-12-23 19:16

If you want to continue to believe that the MCU died with Endgame, have at it. No-one's stopping you.

For me, I'm keeping an open mind.

They've got the writers and directors from Infinity War and Endgame, and some of the very best talent back on board. Will it be shit? Maybe, but I'm happy to wait and be cautiously optimistic.

eBICgamer20102025-12-23 23:47

>If you want to continue to believe that the MCU died with Endgame, have at it. No-one's stopping you.

No you have it reversed. If you think the MCU died with Endgame you will be glad to have Steve back. It's the other way around.

That's why they even played with Evans' Cap moniker in D&W, because his Cap was an infinitely more popular portrayal than his Torch.

BZenMojo2025-12-24 19:41

They have half of the writers from those movies. Christopher Markus bailed to work on his own stuff.

relativlysmart2025-12-23 19:17

If it actually benefits the story and is done well I don't really care who shows up. I'm just going to let myself enjoy the movie for whatever it ends up being.

HalfanHourGuy2025-12-24 00:10

I wish more people be like you

relativlysmart2025-12-24 02:21

I just like to have fun

Remote_Nature_81662025-12-23 19:19

Just like how RDJ is playing Doom. They keep fucking sendoffs up.

Kobalt6x102025-12-23 19:19

Yes, you're the only one. Chris Evans IS Captain America, and more Cap is a good thing. No offense to Anthony.

CheecoBambino2025-12-23 19:23

Yeah I mean I wasn’t a fan of Jonathan majors’ acting well before the conviction. So when the MCU was entirely about him I wasn’t thrilled but like… I wasn’t a crybaby about it

-Darkslayer2025-12-23 19:32

No, you are not. It reeks of desperation. Have faith in your other characters. That’s the idea that made Tony and Cap so big to begin with, Marvel was forced to try relying on new characters

BZenMojo2025-12-24 20:14

Tony got 9 starring roles over 11 years. Steve got 7 over 8 years. Natasha got 8 movies over 9 years. Why are we waiting 7 years between movies where Sam Wilson is more than a cameo to make him Captain America? And why is that movie a lazier rehash of the TV series from FIVE YEARS EARLIER with none of the themes or questions from that series even showing up? And why is Sam Wilson suddenly a completely different personality?

Where's the star of the MCU movie with the 98% RT audience score that more money as a premiere solo movie than First Avenger, Thor, Black Widow, or Incredible Hulk? Why did he disappear off the entire face of the planet? Why is his next movie going to be a nostalgic cameo like he already had his 8 movies!?

Marvel keeps acting like "MCU" was a franchise. Most MCU audiences have seen less than a third of these movies. And Marvel just stopped acting like they had to keep making movies for different audiences instead of filling up a sack of toys with one-shot films to shove into a sack full of toys for merchandising just to drag it out once every half-decade or so.

MrMcFaze2025-12-23 19:41

As long as hes not the central hero or lead than im fine with it. He has already gotten his time to shine and I think he should not have a huge part in this end to the saga but we shall see.

Morgoth18142025-12-23 19:46

I hope we don’t see Rogers on the present time. I guess it’s ok if we see flashbacks or just him living in people’s memory but I don’t want to see him in the present. He had an ideal send off.

thesanmich2025-12-23 19:47

No I definitely want him back. Steve Rogers is my Captain America. We barely even had any interaction between him and Spider-Man.

Pennywhack2025-12-23 20:04

I very much want to have Chris Evans and Robert Downey Jr. back in the MCU. I never wanted them to leave in the first place.

Ok-Beyond-2012025-12-23 20:12

I just want to see more of the Thunderbolts*, let the old avengers rest.

Kevinuara2025-12-23 21:13

Afterwards, and unlike Odyssey (which is also in deserved turmoil), Doomsday deserves to be given a chance. After all, we've all stuck with this whole damn saga, which has had some serious highs (No Way Home) and lows (Secret Invasion), so it's not time to give up at the finish line. At least RDJ will be playing a new character. Maybe Evans will get as much screen time as he did in D&W.

Nevertheless, yes, on paper, it's a very bad bet, and the public's reaction seems to agree. Nostalgia won't be enough to draw in audiences. Above all, it's a betrayal of the hardcore fans who have stuck with the whole saga and are eagerly awaiting the return of the new heroes (such as Shang-Chi and Moon Knight). Even worse, it's an insult to Anthony Mackie (Sam Wilson), who wasn't such a bad new Captain America! By bringing Evans back, Marvel is spitting on Endgame, on what was the conclusion of Steve Rogers' narrative arc.

Champagnekudo2025-12-23 21:21

Why does doomsday deserve a chance but not the odyssey lol

Kevinuara2025-12-23 23:21

Good question. Perhaps because Doomsday is part of a franchise and, for now, it's just doubts about the casting. The fears may be unfounded about this film and the Russo brothers may dazzle us (I hope so, I'd like that).

As for Odyssey, it's just Nolan whose genius has gone haywire. He just took the most “bankable” actors of the moment. But everything in the trailer makes us fear the worst. I'm not going to list all the problems the film seems to have. Homer's Odyssey deserves better.

Much like I want to say that Anthony Mackie (Sam Wilson) deserves better than to be potentially relegated to the background behind Chris Evans (Steve Rogers).

Stranggepresst2025-12-23 21:38

I gotta see what theyre doing with him first but the weird teaser doesn't cause any hype for me at all.

Aromatic-Cupcake48022025-12-23 21:45

Steve went back in time and lived a life he wasn’t supposed to live and had a kid. He’s the root of the problem. We know the real reason he’s back, but his return shouldn’t be focal.

Donatella172025-12-23 21:49

I’m tired of him and Captain America. Bring other Marvel characters please.

Peanut_Butter_Toast2025-12-23 21:52

I'm the opposite, I always wanted more Steve, didn't feel like we got enough of him (especially since he was barely in Infinity War...compare to Iron Man, who co-starred in one of Captain America's movies, had a significant supporting role in one of Spider-man's movies, and had a major role in both Infinity War and Endgame). And with how Steve's ending left open so many unanswered questions, I never felt like it was particularly conclusive. Felt more like he was being "put on a bus", to use the TV Tropes term.

[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PutOnABus](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PutOnABus)

The-Germs2025-12-23 22:28

I'm hoping his role is minimal, maybe some sort of mentor role, and they keep building everyone else, like Fantastic 4, Sam Wilson, Joaquin Torres.

Falcon0822025-12-23 22:56

The Chris Evan’s comeback screams desperation from Marvel.

thrawn_is_king2025-12-23 23:31

I'm mostly disappointed by what it symbolizes. The poorer quality and lack of attention to detail in everything post endgame.

Asleep_Wishbone_38952025-12-23 23:51

I’m kind of with you, even though I thought he was excellent as Captain America.

MentalWolverine82025-12-23 23:51

I have always felt that Steve going back in time and living his life with Peggy was an open thread more than a wrap on his story. I mean, Endgame logic literally established that the stones were supposed to be returned to their place so that a new branch won't be created. By doing what he did, Steve went against that understanding.

So, if him going back in time and living his life with Peggy is the reason why incursions start happening, allegedly, speculatively, then I don't mind him coming back. If anything, I welcome it.

Although I don't know why TVA didn't do anything about it, but that's a question for later.

Diablo_N_Doc2025-12-24 01:50

Many people wanted a movie or a Disney+ show about his adventure returning the stones. He did his job, until he decided to stay with Peggy. Marvel could take that two ways. The way we basically had it before, where he lives his life in peace, with Peggy, and then returns to Sam as an old man. Or the other way, the one we are probably getting, severe consequences for creating a branch. They can do so much with him in that branched timeline and still have him return to the Endgame scene with Sam. Hell, I'd almost bet money they'll show him returning to the scene and show him sitting down on the bench. We'll see the panicky Sam, Bucky, and Hulk in the background. Perhaps the TVA does do something about it. We just haven't seen it yet.

sanddragon9392025-12-24 06:50

I think *originally* he returned to that bench.

But now time is broken. And in the aftermath of these movies, reality itself will be rewritten and we get a new Steve Rogers.

SP15702025-12-23 23:52

I kind of agree...but I trust Feige and Russos to deliver

JamJamJunior2025-12-23 23:55

Thank God someone said it. This kind of scenario has played out many times before. No way home, wandavision, doctor strange, the marvels, Deadpool and wolverine. We have had so much fan service and so much returning of legacy characters for mainly cash grabbing. Plus, you had a new captain America. Just use that one, no need to bring back an old one.

sanddragon9392025-12-24 07:03

No Way Home, Wandavision, Dr. Strange and DP&W have been among the biggest successes of the MCU post-Endgame, just FYI.

The new Captain America (which I personally enjoyed) simply wasn't. And the only thing about The Marvels that excited most MCU fans was the post-credit scene featuring the return of Kelsey Grammar as Beast!

AsterArtworks2025-12-23 23:55

It’s not JUST for nostalgia, Steve Rogers has always been an integral part of Marvel and we want to see him.

Affectionate_Rub_6382025-12-23 23:57

No I think it's lame too

Jibbjabb432025-12-23 23:58

Want? Not inherently. But I don't think the existing movies and timelines Marvel had were working, and backtracking was probably the quickest way to, unironically, try to give the newer characters a better shot and introduce new working elements.

spaceraingame2025-12-24 00:05

I’m kinda on the fence. On the one hand, Endgame had a perfect sendoff for his character and there’s really no reason to undo that. He fulfilled his promise from Captain America the First Avenger, bringing it all full circle.

On the other, the way Cap just bailed on all his friends at the last second to stay in the past with Peggy was rather abrupt. There was no prior indication he’d abandon them all like that. It didn’t really feel like something he’d do.

cosgrove102025-12-24 16:53

Bucky knew he wasn’t coming back.

Thor was gone on his travels. Tony doesn’t exist anymore. Nat is donezo. Not really much other people worth sticking around for when you could go be with the love of you life that you never got to experience because you sacrificed yourself to save the world.

spaceraingame2025-12-25 04:34

I mean he still had Bucky. He had Sam Wilson and Wanda and Clint. They were all friends of his who fought alongside him and probably could’ve used his help in the events that followed (ie. Thunderbolts, Captain America BNW).

josephcoco2025-12-24 00:50

You may not be the only one, but I certainly don’t agree with you. I’m glad to see Rogers back (and he doesn’t even need to be “Captain America”), and besides, Chris is only back for Doomsday and (probably) Secret Wars. And Marvel did move on, for 6-7 years, but they didn’t truly end Steve’s story in Endgame. They just put it at a very good halting point.

I think these next two Avengers movies will REALLY put an end to his story.

sanddragon9392025-12-24 07:05

The next two Avengers movies will REALLY put an end to the MCU as we know it...and then create a *new* MCU. As the Russos said, Endgame was an "ending story" while Doomsday/Secret Wars is "a new beginning".

And Feige has already confirmed a new Steve Rogers and Tony Stark down the line.

Zephyraine2025-12-24 01:00

I think feeling MCU fatigue isn't surprising but your "nostalgia" craze point of view seems biased.

People just genuinely like the older characters over the new. And you cannot just blame it on nostalgia. The next gen Avengers that they tried building over the last few years fell flat. What do you expect people to feel?

Let the movie come out and hopefully they wrote it well with the returning characters.

BZenMojo2025-12-24 19:40

The best-reviewed MCU movie among fans is Shang-Chi. It made more money, even adjusted for inflation, than any of the premiere solo movies of the Big Six except Iron Man. Thor and Steve even got entire character arcs, on average, in a movie every single year.

Shang-Chi has had one movie. There's nothing "genuine" about this love of older characters.

Zephyraine2025-12-25 01:26

Well Disney fumbled on Shang Chi too then. They didn't capitalise on Shang Chi when it was going good and hence nothing else till Doomsday. Or Marvel Zombies I suppose. But preferring the old characters over the new isn't nostalgia, not sure why people like to jump on that bandwagon. Cap 4 wasn't great and still didn't do much to cement Sam as the new Cap. Disney fumbling is what caused them to resort to bringing them back but everyone just likes to assume everything is nostalgia.

Adorable_Ad_34782025-12-24 06:02

It's just you, mate.

Comic book characters' stories are cyclical. One arc ends, yes, then another begins. Steve Rogers' previous arc ended on a high note in Endgame. And a new arc of his will begin in Doomsday.

If you don't enjoy that, perhaps comic book films are not for you. And that's fine. Go watch a Yorgos Lanthimos film or something.

sanddragon9392025-12-24 06:43

>I am feeling very fatigued with the current movies that have come out over the past few years. Ever since the infinity stone saga has ended (with the exception of no way home), I have been less and less excited about the new moves coming out.

>I understand that nostalgia sells and it gets people excited, but how much of it do we really need?

You've answered your own question.

Most of the fandom has been "less and less excited about the new movies coming out"...which is why the MCU has to go back to the 'Golden Age' of Tony Stark and Steve Rogers (well, a Stark lookalike Dr. Doom at any rate).

>Chris’s story was told and finished and imo so was RDJ. I think he could make a cool villain in the doomsday film, but is it what it really needs?

RDJ isn't back as Tony Stark though, he's back as Doom. Obviously there's some wrinkle to it and I for one an excited to see what it is.

As far as Chris's story goes...yeah it was finished, but in a way that theoretically allowed for a return. That time has come.

>Idk if it’s me getting tired of the past 20 years of marvel movies (DC included)or if I am tired of this “nostalgia” craze going on in the economy. At some point you have to move on.

Well then, respectfully, I would suggest that maybe it's time for you to move on from Marvel, or from the superhero genre entirely, if you're fatigued by it. Because nostalgia has always been the name of the game here...has to be when you're building entire shared universes out of IP's that are 60-80 years old.

Nostalgia always sells, especially when people are frustrated or bored with the present moment. Which is...all the time!

Notoriously_So2025-12-24 07:23

The real question is: Would they have brought him back if they stuck with the original plan with The Kang Dynasty?

I don't think so. I think this is The Russo brothers wanting to further capitalize on nostalgia and let's not forget these guys basically made 4 Marvel movies with Chris Evans' Cap as the main character.

DiamondRankGOONER2025-12-24 08:29

I feel the same. I really like sam wilson captain america last thing i want is MCU jus deleting everything sam went through so the nostalgia bait of steve as cap will sell tickets

Lusty-Gleam2025-12-24 09:08

yes you are the only one

tbbt112025-12-24 10:56

The world needs Steve Rogers more than ever

thedrudo2025-12-24 15:38

No. It’s sad on Marvel’s part but him and RDJ returning are the few things that actually have me excited at this point.

HotAssistant90752025-12-25 06:57

Idrc. IMO, characters don’t really need a send off. They’re trying to keep Marvel alive, and one of the main reasons people are leaving, is bc too many of the OG’s are gone or aren’t centre focus anymore, and it’s causing people to lose interest, myself included. They need the OG’s.