MMW: Chris Evans and RDJs characters are not variants of Steve and Tony. Their actual roles and screen time will be limited and the reason for their casting is none of the currently popular theories
MCU has taken a downturn overall lately, obviously minus Thunderbolts, F4, etc., but the writers are not stupid. Bringing them back and making them play a significant role in these movies would kill any remaining good will they had with audiences and damage the previous love for infinity war and endgame. I also doubt Chris Evans and RDJ would agree to it.
Whatever the idea was, it was good enough for RDJ to call up (Feige? I think? Can’t remember the interview) and they immediately signed off on it.
My guesses for their roles:
\- Steve is mostly in flash backs or some time-lapse / timeline scenes, connecting some details from his time with Peggy to the current emergence of Dr. Doom
\- IF there’s some alternate timeline involved, it’s possible something to do with Steve is what led to Tony being Dr. Doom, I guess, and they might have a creative way to address that.
\- But what I think is more likely is RDJ is not actually playing Dr. Doom, and that will probably be revealed either early or halfway through the movie. I think they’ll do that to make sure the actual actor gets some time to fully take on the role. Maybe he’s there after some face-change tech like Natasha already demonstrated in Winter Soldier (kinda lame), I’m not sure.
Overall, I think they had RDJ and Chris early on in these appearances because they knew this would be the reaction, especially given MCU’s recent decline. It’s easy to assume they’re just back because $$. And what I think is MOST likely is that whatever their roles actually are, it’s not something that’s been really suggested at all yet, will be pretty clever, and the movie be somewhere between Avengers and AoU in quality.
If I’m wrong I’ll >!post a picture of my dogs playing at the park. Heathens!<
Whatever the idea was, it was good enough for RDJ to call up (Feige? I think? Can’t remember the interview) and they immediately signed off on it.
My guesses for their roles:
\- Steve is mostly in flash backs or some time-lapse / timeline scenes, connecting some details from his time with Peggy to the current emergence of Dr. Doom
\- IF there’s some alternate timeline involved, it’s possible something to do with Steve is what led to Tony being Dr. Doom, I guess, and they might have a creative way to address that.
\- But what I think is more likely is RDJ is not actually playing Dr. Doom, and that will probably be revealed either early or halfway through the movie. I think they’ll do that to make sure the actual actor gets some time to fully take on the role. Maybe he’s there after some face-change tech like Natasha already demonstrated in Winter Soldier (kinda lame), I’m not sure.
Overall, I think they had RDJ and Chris early on in these appearances because they knew this would be the reaction, especially given MCU’s recent decline. It’s easy to assume they’re just back because $$. And what I think is MOST likely is that whatever their roles actually are, it’s not something that’s been really suggested at all yet, will be pretty clever, and the movie be somewhere between Avengers and AoU in quality.
If I’m wrong I’ll >!post a picture of my dogs playing at the park. Heathens!<
Commentaires
Like he's the glue to get the team back together.
Now i honestly have no idea how Dr Doom will factor into any of this, since to me, it just seems a bit too forced. When Thanos was a looming threat for like several movies, before infinity War and Endgame.
It's gone off the rails.
I’ve seen a lot of comments on other posts suggesting it’s copout to bring him back, he’s a variant, etc.
I’m just saying I think it’ll for sure be MCU Steve, and his role will be much more limited than people are making it out to be.
And I’m also guessing that they revealed RDJ as Doom early (and had him first in the chair lineup), and had Steve’s preview first in the Avatar showings, for similar reasons and intentionally so that people would react the way they’re currently reacting. Not like some 4-D chess move, just sort of like the Drew Barrymore Scream thing… but obviously written more nuanced lol
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And the story probably won’t stay there for very long, my guess is that Loki/Deadpool/Doom/whoever is going to Steve’s timeline and be like “bro you fucked up the timeline” and pluck him out and take him to Void or wherever.
For real I can see a bunch of angry fans filing a lawsuit for milseading/fraudulent marketing lmao.
It'd be the biggest troll in cinema history.
Especially in RDJ case, he is literally playing the new Avengers villain.
My only hope is that the writers/directors don't do anything to damage the ending in Endgame but my faith is low.
Steve is an old man in Endgame ending which suggest he won't die in these films (I hope). Most likely there will be a moment to explain why he decides to give Sam the shield and Captain America mantle. For RDJ, I hope the Doom casting is temporary and just for the Avenger films. I guess it could also be to hide the fact that he is actually returning as Iron Man for Secret Wars potentially
It's the same Steve Rogers from Endgame. Doom I'm not sure. But Downey Jr is definitely ALSO playing 616 Tony Stark in Secret Wars.
Marvel Studios won't miss the chance of having Tony interact with Evans Cap, Jackman Wolverine, and Tobey Spidey. It's Marvel Studio's last chance ever to have such a scene.
Plus I recall RDJ or Feige saying they talked to RDJ about bringing Tony back before RDJ's wife pointed out how could they do that when Tony is dead. That's when the idea for Doom to be played by RDJ was born.