Your guesses for the Doomsday story?

so what do you think will happen in Doomsday? what's the story gonna be? who will have a big role? and who will have a small one, or will only make a cameo? who's gonna die? where will the story take place? who that hasn't been announced will be in the movie? could anyone be on Dooms side?

some things that are on my mind (not a full story):
\- I'd like to see Thunderbolts play a big role
\- I don't think Loki's return after S2 will work for me (I don't think the Russo's have a lot of feeling for him
\- I assume Strange and Monica Rambeau (and Captain Marvel and Miss Marvel) will also play a (small) role in the movie
\- I hope it's not gonna be another Chris Evans vs RDJ movie

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BiscuitsAndMilk02025-12-21 16:04

I genuinely have no idea. Every time they come out with some new official news, I get even more confused.

First they announce the name change (unfortunate but not surprising), then announce RDJ as Doctor Doom (wtf), then they announce the main cast (lots of important characters missing) and now we have Steve Rogers returning (imo Endgame's ending ruined until proven otherwise).

ebbor02892025-12-21 16:12

i hope they planned this since they knew they were going for Doomsday... but maybe they had to make some big turns on the way. time will tell i guess

Kevinuara2025-12-21 16:05

Honestly, I don't know, there have been so many open doors, but with the state of the MCU among the public, I'm apprehensive.

I haven't seen it yet, but apparently a teaser for DD is being screened before Avatar 3, and the feedback has been less than enthusiastic! Perhaps worse than disenchantment, it's a total lack of interest that the MCU now seems to inspire, even with an Avengers movie and a new “big villain.” It's terrible how Disney/Marvel seem to have “ruined everything.”

I'll spare you the list of characters still active, but I don't see how they could play a real role in DD. Do we really think that “DD” (Daredevil) will be in “DD” (Doomsday)? I'm afraid I'll be disappointed. Disappointed that I've stuck with this saga. Disappointed with Doomsday.

So I don't know how they're going to do it, but I fear it will be a dud.

ebbor02892025-12-21 16:09

i think quite a few characters won't be in Doomsday. i don't expect anyone to see from Daredevil, Moon Knight, Werewolf by Night, She-Hulk (exept Hulk) and even WandaVision and Agatha All Allong. I assume Vision will only show up in Secret Wars

Kevinuara2025-12-21 22:39

Yeah, I think you're right, the “low-levels” or “street-levels” don't yet have the “level” to be present (either secondarily or primarily) in an Avengers movie, it's the same as it was in the Agents of SHIELD era.

But damn, what a bummer! It's precisely the expanded universe, the fact that everything is interconnected and linked, the references, the “reward” for being a dedicated fan and having seen almost everything. I loved Moon Knight, and to think that he will most likely be forgotten. That's my concern with this saga and the reason, I think, why so many have given up. Especially if it's confirmed, Doomsday risks erasing what Endgame had brought.

teVy4382025-12-23 06:22

the two teasers show Cap and Thor, highly doubt there’s a lack of interest for that.

Kevinuara2025-12-23 11:00

I haven't seen the teasers yet, but I've heard that, given the “*repeated failures*” of this saga, Marvel is going to rely on what “*works best*” to “*ensure the success*” of Doomsday, namely nostalgia.

Except that I don't know if that's really a good thing. The fact that they still have to bring back RDJ, Evans, and Hemsworth proves that Marvel has failed in its post-Endgame gamble.

Honestly, I'm not sure how successful Doomsday will be, and I wouldn't bet on it. It seems that the teasers have had mixed success. We'll see in a year's time.

Tgirl02025-12-21 16:07

Since you have kindly posted this twice (whether intentionally or accidentally), my guesses are:

1) Every team will have an equal opportunity to shine. The Avengers, the Avengerz/Thunderbolts, the Wakandans, the X-Men, and anyone else.

2) The Avengers and Avengerz will have a bit of a slight riff between each other for a moment. Once Wilson's team becomes more in synch with the Thunderbolts against Valentina, it may sadly be a bit late for their reconciliation, because Doom's plans may have gotten worse by that point.

3) Loki's role will definitely be significant, because Doom will find his way to the TVA. Getting past the TVA will get him access to Loki. Thus, a way to manipulate the timelines/multiverse.

4) Loki's reunion with Thor and joining the Avengers. Waited a long time for this. 😭 Can't wait to see everyone's reaction to this Loki variant.

5) Doom putting almost everyone into his own "reality" almost like the Framework from Agents of Shield.

6) Secret Invasion timeline being gone and we get Maria Hill and the good Skrulls back.

7) Mephisto cameo.

ebbor02892025-12-21 16:17

oops, not my intention to post this twice!

love the guesses! i feel like i'm the only one not waiting for a Loki and Thor reunion, but that might be cuz i don't like Thor that much. the best thing about his movies was imo Loki

hope to see the TVA again, and some of the Loki actors!

Maria Hill and Rhodey just step in from another universe and everyone is like 'okay you're here now' and they go with it

DoomsdayThor2025-12-21 19:05

Thor is a major character so I predict he will again have his own side plot (like IW) because he’s too overpowered to fight equally alongside the rest of the roster. my theory is:

Loki reaches out to him early on for help. Loki uses his control of time and the multiverse to help Thor get a big power boost to protect him from Doom.

Thor fights Doom 1v1 in the third act in front of Loki. Thor wins and successfully kills Doom. However, Doom immediately uses Franklin (who he has been coaching for this exact scenario) to resurrect himself. Thor is too exhausted to defeat Doom all over again.

Doom is about to kill Thor, Loki abandons his throne to save Thor and takes him away, and this is how Doom wins the multiverse.

Loki (very depowered) tries to save Thor, but time is running out while the multiverse is collapsing, and Thor sees that he and Loki will both die. Thor tells Loki to stop trying to save him, and instead, Thor gives Loki the last bit of his powers (giving up his own life) to ensure that Loki survives, and Thor dies.

Loki relapses into darkness and begins a revenge arc for secret wars, where he’ll meet a Thor variant (totally different background and personality from the main one, grew up non-royalty and without a Loki).

Euroversett2025-12-21 23:05

>because he’s too overpowered to fight equally alongside the rest of the roster.

In the movies he is a fodder to Captain Marvel, and yet she'll also be in the movie, I assume. If anyone can't fight with the main guys, is her.

DoomsdayThor2025-12-21 23:55

Thor has never been fodder to captain marvel in the movies, they’ve barely interacted…. what the fuck are you talking about

Her whole thing in endgame was just a cheap copy of Thor in Wakanda 🙄

And her feats are nowhere near on the level of Thor’s 🙄

Also she’s very likely not in Doomsday 🙄

Euroversett2025-12-22 00:29

>Thor has never been fodder to captain marvel in the movies, they’ve barely interacted

Spiderman and Dormmamu have not interacted either, so I guess I can't say Spiderman is fodder to him.

Thor got one shotted from Thanos' headbutt. The same attack that couldn't move CM.

Thor also almost died from being exposed to a star for a few seconds while CMr reignited one without taking damage.

DoomsdayThor2025-12-22 01:20

Thor survived the power stone applied directly to his head and overpowered all six infinity stones combined.

Captain Marvel was overpowered by just the power stone

Thor was exposed to a concentrated blast from a *neutron star* not just any star. Do you know what a neutron star is? That blast that was hitting Thor was unfathomably more powerful than what Carol did

NamelessGamer_12025-12-23 14:08

Well, people are not going to like it but I'm almost certain it will be a Chris Evans vs RDJ movie

Since they said Doomsday is a direct sequel to Endgame, it's probable that Doom was created as a result of Steve deciding to stay in the past.
"Oh, but why didn't they prune that timeline?" The answer is bad writing. Endgame didn't have good writing either. What makes you think they will have good writing in this one and address this? They'll just ignore it for the sake of the plot. Of course, this is going to be a dealbreaker for many and I don't blame them for it. I personally still really enjoy Endgame for example, but I am aware it's objectively not great.

I believe that Doom then travels to Earth 828 for whatever reason, and kidnaps Franklin. I don't think RDJ Doom will be from Earth 828 at all. Though, a while back there was a leak that said there would be many variants of Doom in the movie, so maybe the Doom we saw in the FFFS post credits scene is Earth 828 Doom, but not RDJ Doom.

As for Reed vs Doom, I think they either won't have a meaningful rivalry (instead replaced with Cap vs Doom), or maybe Reed had a rivalry with Doom off-screen before the events of FFFS, and he was captured/defeated in Earth 828. So he will know about Doom and all, but probably won't have a major rivalry with RDJ Doom.

This is just my theory though. Maybe I'm overthinking it and the Doom we saw in the post credits scene actually is RDJ Doom and he wasn't created due to the time travel at all, instead originating in Earth 828 and going after Cap because he disrupted time or something (even though that's the TVA's job...). But then it would be harder to explain why he looks like Tony. And I really doubt he will have his mask on 100% of the time, he already had it off in his first appearance, and I think that was an intentional decision by the Russos.

Zaladin032025-12-23 17:49

Doom is the Tony that should have been, but his past was manipulated by He Who Remains (their way of wrapping of the Kang stuff). Tony has every attribute of Doom but due to his life being manipulated to not be Doom, he encountered people who encouraged him not to make several changes or stop him from doing actions, that if they were all done, he would have just been a Doctor Doom. The whole scene with his father in endgame being a mainpoint of focus and the adoption theory.

I don't know how they'll piece it together, but I assume the soul realm will play a role. The Russos did say Doomsday is a direct sequel to Endgame and that Tony's death plays a role. So these are my guesses, that and when he finds the truth, he's going to realize he was right about somethings and beleives he is the only one that can stop a multiversal war. Sympathizing story with understandable motives, just built behind rage. Several heroes will die due to Tony being absolutely fed up and will spare no mercy, in order to not suffer a fate like that again.