Which shows and movies are necessary to watch before Doomsday

So I wanna be caught up in the story but I have not seen any of the Disney shows because I heard they weren't great. New movies I saw the multi verse saga,Deadpool 3 , Falcon,Shang Chi, Fantastic 4 and that's about it. Am I missing any that have an impact on the main story or the new Avengers? Oh yeah didn't see new Thor either

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jamesonv8gt2025-12-20 18:37

Bad bot

Ordinary-Chain-80472025-12-20 18:31

Thunderbolts, Loki, Black Panther 2, Dr Strange 2 and I’m pretty sure that’s all you have that’s actually important in some way and for Fox X-men watch X men,X2 United, Last Stand, First Class, and Days of Futures Past

Grayx_28872025-12-20 18:35

The Thunderbolts*, Fantastic Four: First Steps, Avengers: Endgame, Shang-Chi, and the Legend of the Ten Rings, and that's it.

**SCREW ALL THE DISNEY+ MCU SHOWS!!** You don't need to waste 100 hours of your time watching all these other unrelated concepts that don't connect with each other or set up anything big to happen in the multiverse.

Just watch those four movies I mentioned, and you'll be alright.

Repulsive_Season_9082025-12-21 07:28

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Grayx_28872025-12-21 08:24

Why the hell should it? As far as I am concerned, Loki's TV show kept confusing multiple timeliness with parallel universes. How exactly is time traveling supposed to set up the multiverse? I mean, look at Deadpool 2 and X-Men Days of Future Past, at least they didn't involve the fucking the multiverse while trying to tell different stories about time traveling and changing the future. Deadpool and Wolverine was the only other Marvel movie that literally felt like a multiverse storyline done right. All they did was drop Easter egg nods and references to Loki, and that's it. Plus, it actually did show what would happen if an anchor being dies in one universe. And need I remind you who was supposed to be our next big bad before his actor got caught up with all of his personal bullshit with his stupid-ass ex-girlfriend?

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UchihaSukuna12025-12-20 18:35

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hik3guy2025-12-20 21:19

Perfect response.

swatbox8082025-12-20 18:40

I’m pretty up to date with the MCU stuff, but have zero knowledge of the X-men, should I do some homework?

HenryOnYt12025-12-20 18:46

Watch the Fox X-Men movies, I did it after they got announced for Doomsday, and now I'm excited to see them in the movie.

Caracallademise2025-12-20 18:52

Ok so is that all the movies you need as a preemptive to doomsday?? Cuz that part has been confusing me idk which fox marvel movies to watch. Also is the 2000s Xmen and 2010s xmen apart of the same universe or was the 2010s just a reboot??

Traditional_Bottle502025-12-20 18:56

Watch any movie with X-Men in the title which came out before or during 2014, apart from that, watch The Wolverine, Deadpool, Logan, Deadpool 2, all in release order and you are good to go.

HenryOnYt12025-12-20 18:58

The 2010s X-Men are a part of the same universe, those are the prequel movies, which takes place in the past.

HoowaiArYuhMaDough2025-12-20 19:05

It’s all one giant mess of a timeline/universe.

You have X1-X3

You have origins: Wolverine, which is a prequel set predominantly in the late 70s before the original trilogy.

Then another prequel in the form of first class comes out, which is set in the 60s and focuses on Charles and Magneto forming the x-men. It’s interesting because it was more or less supposed to be a reboot but it seemed like they couldn’t really fully commit to severing ties with the characters they already established.

Then you have The Wolverine which is not a sequel to origins, but a follow-up to X3. It follows Logan going to Japan and facing more actions from his past.

Days of future past comes around and serves as a sequel to both X3 AND First Class.

Apocalypse is a sequel to the younger characters in days of future past.

Logan is set furthest in the timeline, post-days of future past. People say it’s a separate continuity, but it’s not.

Then you have x-men dark phoenix which is again a sequel to the younger characters from apocalypse. And… it’s a movie lmao.

Deadpool movies are kinda their own thing with even more looser connections.

There’s also the new mutants, if you have any interest in that.

high_everyone2025-12-20 20:18

New Mutants has Magick. I wish she were better done but I love her power set.

eagc72025-12-20 21:30

All of the X-Men films are in the same continuity, but do note that its canon is a total mess, as they contradict each other in a daily basis (like X-Men: First Class is in continuity with the original X-Men films, but it retcons and ignores alot of things for the sake the story they wanted to tell, but Days of Future Past which is a follow up to both the original trilogy and First Class does confirm that despite the retcons its still the same universe) and there is time travel stuff that happens later that undo the first batch of films. but overall its all part of the same canon

X-Men, X2, X-Men: The Last Stand, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, X-Men: First Class, The Wolverine, X-Men: Days of Future Past, Deadpool, X-Men: Apocalypse, Logan, Deadpool 2, X-Men: Dark Phoenix and The New Mutants

Realistic_Analyst_262025-12-20 22:24

Just google X-Men movies in release order and follow that

Traditional_Bottle502025-12-20 18:44

Shows: WandaVision, The Falcon and The Winter Soldier, Loki, Hawkeye, Ms. Marvel

Movies: Black Widow, Eternals, Spider-Man: No Way Home, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, The Marvels, Thunderbolts\*

I am not sure on whether to add a few projects because its not confirmed if anything from those projects will be picked up in Doomsday but for now, these have been vital projects in the Saga apart from the ones you have watched.

Also, nitpick, its the Captain America movie, not Falcon.

Tidus47132025-12-20 18:50

There's a big rumor going around most shows/movies aren't important to Doomsday, and only Endgame matters. I guess we'll see.

Traditional_Bottle502025-12-20 18:52

Yeah, I have seen it but I feel they mean that Endgame will be the one which matters the most and that you can understand enough of Doomsday if you haven't watched anything since Endgame, like how there were people who watched Infinity War as their first MCU movie but still managed to enjoy it and understand the key points.

Consistent-Mastodon2025-12-20 18:47

Blade

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EarthboundMan52025-12-20 18:48

Good news is you've seen the most important movies. In terms of Disney+ series, watch WandaVision and Loki season 1 & 2. For movies, Black Widow, Thunderbolts, Multiverse of Madness, Thor Love and Thunder, and Black Panther Wakanda Forever should do you fine.

Caracallademise2025-12-20 18:48

Tbh dont watch any show 😭😭 all of them feel like they exist in their own medium and the important stuff that happens in Loki get explained across mostly all of the mutliverse saga movies

Repulsive_Season_9082025-12-21 07:27

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Caracallademise2025-12-22 06:13

Well not that part obviously but I was referring to the stuff with how the multiverse works

PhanTom76412025-12-24 10:43

Yeah you don't know what you are saying... we understand

Tidus47132025-12-20 18:49

If the rumors are true, only Endgame. Most of the movies are only going to serve as character introductions and might not even be too heavily referenced.

Spiderlander2025-12-20 18:50

- Avengers: Endgame

- Loki S1

- X-Men: Days of Future Past

- Doctor Strange: In The Multiverse of Madness

- Fantastic Four: First Steps

hamiltonscale2025-12-20 19:12

Why Loki 1 but not 2?

aceisthebestprimary2025-12-20 21:08

i think u mean loki season 1 and 2

labbla2025-12-20 19:13

The Fablemens, The Human Centipede 2 (Full Sequence), The Trial of the Incredible Hulk, Batman Returns, Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark and Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania

metalmankam2025-12-20 19:17

It ties up everything from the very beginning of the MCU and even stuff from before the MCU so everything. It's the culmination of the last 25yrs of marvel movies

YESRedbone2025-12-20 19:22

There's going to be so many cameos that your probably going to have to watch DC movies

ExpressMud80382025-12-20 19:23

just watch everything. Doomsday is gonna be 100% fanservice and if you're not a fan you wont be serviced.

ebbor02892025-12-21 13:23

don't forget the Howard The Duck movie

BulletEnigma2025-12-20 20:32

Still plenty of time to watch em all. No need to cherry pick.

dekomorii2025-12-20 20:57

Not only mcu, everything marvel related

eagc72025-12-20 21:26

Right now based on what we know.

1. WandaVision (mostly because of Doctor Strange 2)

2. Falcon and the Winter Soldier

3. Loki S1,

4. Black Widow,

5. Shang-Chi

6. Eternals (Solely because of Captain America 4)

7. Spider-Man: No Way Home

8. Hawkeye (solely for the ending of The Marvels)

9. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness

10. Ms. Marvel (Solely for The Marvels)

11. Thor: Love and Thunder

12. Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

13. Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania (Maaaaaybe, the Kang story may be dropped but i'll leave this just in case since Ant-Man will still be part of Doomsday)

14. Loki S2

15. The Marvels

16. Deadpool and Wolverine

17. Captain America: Brave New World

18. Thunderbolts

19. Fantastic Four.

These would be the ones so far that are tied to Doomsday or some of the overall Multiverse related stories, but do note that since we haven't seen Doomsday, there is always the chance stuff like say What If, Echo, Secret Invasion, Agatha, Guardians 3, Daredevil, etc could wind playing a part in the story

PyroClone55552025-12-20 21:29

You should probably only watch Loki tbh as far as shows go

Definitely watch Thunderbolts and X1-3 + First Class, Days of Future Past, the Deadpool movies and Logan

Guardians 3 is great too but probably won’t have any connection to doomsday

david13an2025-12-20 23:00

Since this is the MarvelStudios subreddit, they will say watch everything. This doesn't answer your question and I would not even think it's a good idea, some movies/shows are just not worth the time on my opinion. Generally, what you "must see" are just the previous movies under the same title, so:

Avengers, Age of Ultron, Infinity War, and Endgame

If you are interested in delving deeper in the Multiverse story, then I recommend:

Spider-Man No Way Home, LOKI, and Multiverse of Madness.

Multiverse of Madness wasn't very well received, but I think it's good enough and it seems very relevant to the overall saga.

Other post-endgame projects that are worth watching, but probably not necessary are:

WandaVision, Shang-Chi, Guardians 3, and Thuderbolts.

Aside from that, I would recommend these only if you are personally curious about these characters:

Fantastic Four, Wakanda Forever, Agatha All Along, Deadpool & Wolverine, Daredevil Born Again

Anything not listed was not very well received. You can still watch and make your own opinion. But I personally wouldn't make other people watch them, let alone call them necessary for Doomsday. People will say Ms Marvel or Moon Knight is their favorite show, and that's valid, im just saying in general there's mixed opinions on them.

Doomsday will explain everything you need to know, it will introduce characters and tell you the necessary info about them. Even if you had skipped Fantastic Four, you will understand it. It is purposefully being made this way, they all are, but people overestimate how much you need to watch beforehand. I watched Endgame with someone who had NEVER seen a Marvel movie and they loved it, so yeah lol

Mr6282025-12-20 23:44

All of them or none. That’s the funny thing about multiverses and time travel, nothing matters.

Sad_Juggernaut_51032025-12-21 01:19

Thunderbolts, Fantastic Four, No Way Home, Dr. Strange 2, Loki, The Marvels, Deadpool & Wolverine and possibly Wandavision.

For stuff outside the MCU possibly the Xmen films

Reasonable_Tower_3472025-12-22 03:25

First person to mention the marvels.

marvelcomics222025-12-21 04:32

Watch Loki and the last three movies, BNW, and Thunderbolts\*, and you'll probably be fine.

Sensitive-Reindeer-62025-12-30 19:59

Is any of the Thor movies necessary?

marvelcomics222025-12-31 01:42

Well, Thor's daughter is confirmed to return, and that might be an emotional aspect of Doomsday that's moderately large, so maybe Love And Thunder, but they'll probably explain "Oh, btw, Thor has an adopted daughter now whose father was evil, but used his dying wish to save her."

marvelcomics222025-12-21 04:32

> heard they weren't great.

That's not particularly true. Sure, some of them have mixed reviews, one was a complete dumpster fire (Secret Invasion), but other than that most of them are pretty good.

keysersoze0002025-12-21 08:22

I was going to ask what Phase 4 content is most important to watch? I don’t need an “everything” comment bc that is most certainly not the case lol

ChaoticCaptain1772025-12-21 18:00

Loki is one of the best Disney + shows and it's essential so I recommend that. For movies, I'd say it's worth watching Thunderbolts, Brave New World, Multiverse of Madness, Wakanda Forever, and the Fox X-men trilogy (X-men, X2, Last Stand)

DryReceptacle2025-12-22 02:56

Everything.

sanddragon9392025-12-22 16:36

I haven't really watched the Disney shows much either, apart from Falcon & Winter Soldier. However, I think Loki's the one which is essential viewing, since it actually deals with the Multiverse.

That apart, I think these are the Phase 4-6 movies that would be actually relevant before watching Doomsday:

Spider-Man No Way Home

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness

Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania

The Marvels (post-credit scene only)

Deadpool & Wolverine

Captain America: Brave New World*

Fantastic Four: First Steps

Basically, the Multiverse-related movies, plus Quantumania (which features Kang who may still be relevant), and Brave New World (mainly just because Sam Wilson as Captain America, and the Avengers he's building, is going to be important).

I also think an Infinity War/Endgame rewatch might be in order before any of this.

Super-Visor2025-12-30 19:55

This is the watch list I’d give someone right now based on what we know about the movie. The titles in (parenthesis) may or may not factor into Doomsday.

X-Men

X2

X-Men: The Last Stand

X-Men Days of Future Past

(Deadpool)

(Logan)

(Deadpool 2)

Captain America: The First Avenger

The Avengers

Captain America: The Winter Soldier

Avengers: Age of Ultron

Captain America: Civil War

Black Widow

Avengers: Infinity War

Avengers: Endgame

Loki S1

(WandaVision)

The Falcon and the Winter Soldier

Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings

(Spider-Man: No Way Home)

(Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness)

Thor: Love and Thunder

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania

(The Marvels)

Loki S2

(Deadpool & Wolverine)

Captain America: Brave New World

Thunderbolts

Fantastic Four: First Steps