Why should Sam not take the Super Solider Serum?

From what I can tell in the movie, they seem to push the idea that Sam doesn’t need to take It, as being Captain America isn’t just about power and strength, but the person themselves.

Sam strengths aren’t that he can win in combat, but his empathy, leadership, etc

But what harm would It do? All of those qualities, mixed with the strength to take on powerful enemies seems like It would be no problem. Especially this new version

We have 9 characters who have used the serum

Steve

Red Skull

Bucky

Alexei

Isaiah

Bruce

Blonsky

Karli

Walker

We have 3 cases where the serum causes issues

Red Skull (original serum)

Bruce (flawed serum)

Blonsky (flawed serum)

But outside of those 3 cases, the serum has shown no real issues for anyone else

Steve obviously is the crown jewel of It, Bucky, Alexei, and Isaiah had different versions but show no signs of It effecting them negatively.

Karli’s issues come from her views and actions, there is nothing to suggest the serum causes her to do what she does

Walker shows signs that it’s effecting him, but more physically struggling and his mental struggles of having the mantle. His one “bad moment” seems like something he’d do regardless, he just had the power to cause damage he did. Once that episode ends he shows no signs of It effecting him

So why shouldn’t Sam? It’s presented like he’s making an admirable and correct choice. Even if we want to say it still enhances the users personality, is Sam not shown to be similar to Steve?

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RihoSucks2025-12-19 22:03

Hey OP I have a shot that will improve your health but 1 in 3 are horribly disfigured as a side effect. You letting me inject you?

santa99912025-12-19 22:09

I get that idea, but that’s lacking context overall

Red Skull was the original original serum, pre Steve, and was known to not be complete. Bruce messed up his serum, causing his issues. The only one who got the serum thinking it’d work is Blonsky. And his was based on Bruce’s failed work

The new serum is based off Isaiah’s blood, and shown to be fine for both the flag smashers and Walker. Sam has this info available to him

RihoSucks2025-12-19 22:13

And I can give you plenty of excuses why my shot horribly disfigured a third of the people who took it. You letting me inject it or not?

santa99912025-12-19 22:14

I don’t see It as excuses. When they continually show us It works besides 3 cases where there is an exact reason It doesn’t work is known I don’t see how that’s the same

RihoSucks2025-12-19 23:12

You're missing my point. Take it out of the movie and put it in real life. Are you gonna take a wonder drug that has a 1 in 3 chance of going horribly wrong?

santa99912025-12-19 23:44

If those 3 cases were well in the past and now It is shown to have fixed that, and work? Then yes

mrbaryonyx2025-12-19 23:32

man I genuinely thought this was a weird bot post for a second

was like "whose hocking their weird miracle drugs in the marvel sub"

LnStrngr2025-12-19 22:19

I think philosophically, he doesn’t need the serum to be Captain America, but rather he has what it takes in his character.

santa99912025-12-19 22:23

That’s fair, but would It not help him take on larger threats as Captain America?

Especially if we take the whole “It enhances personality” idea they started with?

LnStrngr2025-12-19 22:39

Maybe. But my view is that they story of Captain America is beyond "good inside become great" and is now you can be great without outside forces. He doesn't have to be a "super" human to be a focal an positively contributing Avenger character. He does have technology to assist him so he's not totally harmless.

I could see some drastic event that causes him to lose faith in himself. Like not being able to save a bunch of friends from death. That could sending him down a dark path that tempts the serum. I'd be disappointed if Sam did it, but perhaps that disappointment is part of the sacrifice made for him to resolve a major problem.

santa99912025-12-19 22:41

I was really hopping in Brave new world he’d have this type of situation, I was disappointed they just had him go toe to toe with red hulk

Feels like they just replaced the serum with his suit, so he can still do all the hero stuff they want him to

mrbaryonyx2025-12-19 23:36

I think its funny that people keep bringing up the Hulk as something that clearly outclasses Sam without the serum.

But when you think about it, Sam beat the Hulk without throwing a single punch.

Zombieutinsel2025-12-19 22:21

I think Sam doesn't want it because it would change who he is, Steve gave him the shield because he has the heart and temperament do the job effectively and be good at it.

santa99912025-12-19 22:23

Sure, but he’d still have all that while also physically being able to do the job effectively

FrostBricks2025-12-19 22:27

We're explicitly told in universe the serum makes you More of who you are. Not Less.

Sam is either smarter than that, or has some dark secrets we haven't seen yet. Either way, both are stupid choices narratively.

shadowfire21212025-12-19 22:40

I mean tbf he was in/running that ptsd therapy group when Steve met him for a reason. Who knows what he has roiling under the surface that the serum might exasperate.

Remember that even before the abomination blonsky was injected with serum implied to be derived from the same as Steve’s.

He was relatively stable if not a bit macho tendencies before the first dose.

then got high on the boost, and the abomination form came from trying to combine what was already in him with a hulk blood cocktail.

Sam might have the valid worry that issues he can control currently might be less manageable with the serum. He also might just not want to deal with needing to work around the enhanced physique all the time. He can take off the suit and be normal.
The serum is forever a division between him and his fellow man.

FrostBricks2025-12-20 01:44

Sure, but nobody wants to watch the "Captain America struggles with inner demons" movie. That's literally John Walker's whole thing, and the exact reason John shouldn't hold the mantle.

Sam isn't John. Sam is a good man. Just like Steve. So it really doesn't feel like there's any good, in-universe reason for Sam not to have made the choice.

jmcgit2025-12-19 22:22

I see it as a point of pride, maybe hubris, that he wants to prove that he doesn’t need it to be Captain America.

The MCU doesn’t really portray it as a flaw, but that’s sort of how I see it.

santa99912025-12-19 22:26

That’s fair, but even in his own movie he quips that he should have taken It, because it’d help him vs a threat like Red Hulk

IamJohnnyHotPants2025-12-19 22:22

More than half the people on that list have led miserable lives since they took the serum. What kind of question is this?

santa99912025-12-19 22:25

Because of the serum?

Isaiah is because of the governments treatment of him, Bucky was under control of hydra, Alexei never found purpose past being a hero for Russia, Walker was a result of choices he made.

The 3 I mentioned all had something wrong with their serum when they took It, and we know the new serum doesn’t have those flaws

InteractionExtreme712025-12-19 22:28

That's what the creator said anyways, but Walker took the same serum afaik

santa99912025-12-19 22:30

Walker took the new serum developed from Isaiah’s blood, and outside of him seemingly struggling to adjust to It we don’t see any issues with Walker due to the serum

Same with Karli and the flag smashers. They are all perfectly fine after taking It, their struggles are due to other reasons

Gorguf622025-12-19 23:38

I mean, Walker took the serum and then five minutes later, publicly executed a man who posed no threat to him.

santa99912025-12-19 23:50

That’s fair, and as some have pointed out to me It may have caused his adrenaline to spike during all that. So definitely fair

Than being said I still think he’d have a similar reaction regardless of taking It or not, the serum just gave him the strength to actually attack them

Gorguf622025-12-19 23:58

>I still think he’d have a similar reaction regardless of taking It or not

And as Erskine said, "bad becomes worse".

santa99912025-12-20 00:00

Which brings us back to Sam, so it’d enhance all the good qualities we are told he has

IamJohnnyHotPants2025-12-19 22:45

Besides the uncertainty of not knowing how the serum is going to affect you physiologically, once you take the serum you may become a target for government experiments and/or torture. Walker isn’t miserable because of “choices he made.” It was that he didn’t realize that taking the serum would dial his aggression up to an unsafe level, making him incapable of controlling his temper or making rational decisions.

santa99912025-12-19 22:47

Did they just abandon that for thunderbolts then? They don’t seem to show us that at all once the show ends

If Walker didn’t take the serum, and was in that situation with Lamar, do you think he acts differently? Maybe he can’t catch up to the guy or take him 1v1, but I don’t feel like the serum effects his choices there, just his ability

The way thunderbolts presents the watching his son thing, It feels more like him struggling to deal with the consequences of what he did, not him being unsafely aggressive

IamJohnnyHotPants2025-12-19 22:59

He was not an asshole when he is first introduced. The serum made his anger and aggression untenable, clearly affecting his judgement and personality. That, plus the fame of being Captain America and having that stripped from you, is going to make you question your purpose and identity. Those things that can destroy a relationship and family. None of that happens if he doesn’t take the serum.

santa99912025-12-19 23:01

Maybe not an asshole, but he clearly has an entitlement about him when dealing with Sam/Bucky and the Dora Milage

He views the shield as a status, that he’s above people because he’s Captain America

But again, take away the serum and put him in that situation still. I think he acts the exact same way he did with the serum

IamJohnnyHotPants2025-12-19 23:03

They make it very clear in the show that the serum is the reason for the rage that led to him murdering somebody in the street. I don’t think that’s even remotely questionable.

santa99912025-12-19 23:04

So if he doesn’t have the serum at that point, what happens? He just lets them run? He doesn’t want revenge or anything?

Maybe the serum enhances It but It doesn’t cause him to randomly have that rage

And they have told us over and over how great a man Sam is, so why would It cause him similar issues?

IamJohnnyHotPants2025-12-19 23:15

If he doesn’t have that serum, his adrenaline isn’t pumping at inhuman levels, and he is able to control that rage and think before he bashes somebody with a vibranium shield. Even if he couldn’t control that rage, not having the serum allows for other people to stop a much less rageful and much weaker person from bludgeoning a man to death.

santa99912025-12-19 23:46

The adrenaline is an interesting point

Could It be argued that it’d be fine if he hadn’t taken It and then immediately went Into action?

VikingHighlander2025-12-19 22:26

It makes for a better arc of a story if he doesn’t.

santa99912025-12-19 22:26

Fair, but the movies don’t really present the negatives of It . He just seems to think he shouldn’t, and that’s supposed to be commendable

22LOVESBALL2025-12-19 22:26

Well, does he even really have access to it? I understand that there was a slight opportunity during the show, but then it was gone. I never got the feeling it was just sitting around for him to take whenever he decided like it was a flu shot. I thought in Brave New World that he was a bit regrettable about it and saying that he should've taken it, meaning when he had the opportunity in the show.

But to me, I think it's more about that HE doesn't need it. I think his gift is communication and empathy, and I think he's a better person than Steve honestly. Steve is like trying to beat the fuck out of people at the end of the day lol. But Sam is always trying to talk, is always on the defense, his flight powers are very evasive and less aggressive than other heroes powers.

So I think I just see it as Sam is there to lift people up, literally and figuratively. He doesn't need the serum to do that.

santa99912025-12-19 22:28

He seems to have had the option at some point, because the movie talks about him deciding not to a few times

I think that’s a fair argument, and I don’t disagree. I guess what I’m looking for is why it’d be an issue if he did take It, since we don’t see why the new serum is such a negative thing

22LOVESBALL2025-12-19 22:30

Yeah in reality he'd probably take it, like in a "why not" sort of way. I just see it as a more comicbook thingy, or him preserving something special about himself.

santa99912025-12-19 22:32

I do think they want him to be different and special in a different way, which is fair, I just wish they presented us actual reasoning on why that’s the case

Besides just “he’s a good man and doesn’t need It to be a good man”

0LoveAnonymous02025-12-19 22:29

They should make him take it. I mean how is he gonna lead the Avengers and not have some superpowers?

santa99912025-12-19 22:31

I think he can lead them without It, I just don’t feel they’ve given us an actual good reason on why he hasn’t

Even most of the comments here just seem to say he doesn’t feel he needs It, which doesn’t seem like a strong reasoning for It

spidervenom6192025-12-19 23:17

I'll guess it's a really great thing that Tony Stark, Yelena, or Natasha all have super solider serum then...

And before you say anything, no it hasn't been said if Nat or Yelena has taken that wannabee Super Solider Serum from the comics yet, only Alexei and maybe Taskmaster.

mrbaryonyx2025-12-19 23:31

My problem with this logic is that, by the final battle in Endgame when Steve, Tony and Thor all team up against Thanos, Steve is basically the weakest out of those. Power creep basically just keeps pushing Avengers enemies to the point that being "above average strength, but not a god" doesn't matter.

Steve survives by borrowing Thor's power level. Should Sam have Mjolnir too?

VikingHighlander2025-12-19 22:33

The man makes the serum, the serum doesn’t make the man. We saw what the bad side looks like with Walker, and the good with Steve. Sam believes he doesn’t need it to do the job… which may hinder his ability and make him rethink decisions. Is it more important to be Sam, or to be Captain America? I think the internal struggle and storylines that come with that, are more interesting than making him another SS. They could have just given the shield to Bucky if that was the case.

santa99912025-12-19 22:35

But are they not presenting Sam as a good man like Steve?

I don’t disagree at all that it’s a better storyline to have him struggle with that, but the movie makes It where he had a choice and just chose not to because he doesn’t need It, yet then has him say himself it’d have helped him

It’s more that I don’t feel they’ve done a great job showing us why he shouldn’t do It

NinduTheWise2025-12-19 22:35

My thing is that fine he didn’t take the serum sure.

But some of the stuff they’re getting him to do while still being human is insane.

I understand vibranium can shock absorb but still

santa99912025-12-19 22:36

That’s kinda what sparked this

They clearly want him to have those feats, and we haven’t seen the negative side of It since Cap1, so why wouldn’t he?

NinduTheWise2025-12-19 22:41

And it’s not like you have to go through the big process Steve did all those years ago, it’s just an injection

We also haven’t seen if Sam has a dark side enough to where if he takes the serum it’d make him more prone to anger

With walker we were given little hints that he had a darker past and that’s why he is so much more angry with the serum

To make it make more sense they should’ve shown that Sam had a darker past to mirror walker and that he is making the choice not to take it for the sake of others

lrbikeworks2025-12-19 22:36

Bucky nailed it on Cap 4.

‘Steve gave people something to believe in. You give them something to aspire to.’

I think him not having the serum makes him more real. He knows he’s not ever going to achieve the ‘symbol’ status that Steve had as a legend, war hero. But as a normal human fighting to make a difference, he leads by example in a way Steve couldn’t.

That and also, hes a trained soldier. There’s probably a part of him that is afraid the serum will turn him into John walker.

I think it’s one of the things that makes his Cap different from Steve Rogers, and kind of fascinating.

santa99912025-12-19 22:38

But what have they shown with Walker that makes It so bad?

Maybe this is me assuming too much, but serum or no serum I think Walker goes after the flag smashers either way. The serum just gave him the strength to not make It a challenge

Most of the negatives we’ve seen from Walker are him dealing with the consequences of his actions, not struggling with the serum

MX24192025-12-19 23:02

They showed Walker being too hard on himself and trying to be the perfect soldier. It blinds him. He also had the attitude where he thinks he knows best and everyone has to follow him. He'll listen to others for a few seconds but in the end he wants to have the final say.

santa99912025-12-19 23:03

I agree, but they show us that before the serum is taken. Maybe It enhances that, but I don’t feel like they imply that the serum is the reason for his actions

They’ve done nothing but tell us how great a man Sam is, so It feels like he’d be in the same boat as Steve was

MX24192025-12-19 23:26

Possibly but Sam doesn't want to take that risk. We hear the serum enhances the traits and personality you already have to maximum. So we see in the show how unhinged Walker is becoming. He shows his unwillingness to listen at times and think he knows best in Thunderbolts. Now at the end he shows he can be a good teammate and cares. So with Sam it would depend on which serum he takes. Outcome would probably be we see his good heart but his doubt at times would be amplified too. If he looks in himself and overcomes internally I think he would be ok with serum inside of him.

santa99912025-12-19 23:48

I just don’t It odd I guess that that they’ve pumped Sam up so much in terms of his character and values, only for him to be worried about the outcome.

Outside of Bruce’s failed experiment It seems anyone who wasn’t already a villain overall comes out fine from It

lrbikeworks2025-12-19 23:46

I mean…he killed a guy pretty violently with the shield. You could argue that’s anger, trauma of past loss in war, PRSD, exacerbated by the serum to the point that he can’t think clearly.

Sam might see those things in himself, and is (rightly I think) wary that he could end up in the same frame of mind and end up making the same kind of mistake. In CATWS he described the helpless feeling of watching his wingman get blown out of the sky.

That will leave a deep, dark mark on someone’s soul. The serum would make it deeper and darker.

santa99912025-12-20 00:04

I do seem to view what Walker did a little differently then others It seems, as I think that was more Walker than the serum. The serum just made It an option.

Many had pointed out It may have led to higher adrenaline and lack of clarity, so I think that’s definitely fair

However since that moment they haven’t shown that side of him anymore.

If he had taken the serum and didn’t go right into combat would things be the same?

SeekerVash2025-12-20 00:54

Given that he tried to gun down an innocent person attempting diplomacy, he's definitely in the same boat as Walker.

OjamasOfTomorrow2025-12-20 15:04

Why I love Sam explained perfectly.

santa99912025-12-19 22:45

Just to add for everyone seeing this, I don’t think Sam needs to take It, and good stories can be told with the idea he doesn’t do so

I’m just disappointed with how they’ve presented It so far. They could tell stories that show Sam’s strengths and what not.

Instead they have him go toe to toe with fighter jets, red hulk, etc

rabbitofrevelry2025-12-19 22:53

Steve gave him the shield. It was a statement of worthiness. That means something to Sam. It means everything to Sam. To many people, Captain America is a symbol built on values and integrity, *not* defined by being a super soldier. Sam wants to live up to that. To prove that Steve wasn't wrong to give him the shield. To keep that symbol strong and true.

If Sam takes the serum, it will be a shortcut and a crutch. It will undermine the faith that Steve had in him. It will send a message that Captain America, as a concept, is bonded to the dependence of the serum. It cheapens the legacy of Steve by reframing it around the serum rather than only upon Steve's character.

santa99912025-12-19 22:59

I don’t think It has to be dependence on the serum, or that it’d be reframing the character around the serum

We see the difference in someone like Walker vs someone like Sam. The way Walker views the shield vs the way Sam does

It’s in their actions as a hero and who they stand up for, an who they stand against.

The post isn’t supposed to be saying Sam needs It to be a hero, more of why he wouldn’t have It when we’ve seen that It doesn’t cause the issues It used to cause

rabbitofrevelry2025-12-19 23:14

Okay, but the fixation on the serum for Sam as Cap is due to the association of the serum with Steve as Cap. The goal is to divorce the association of the serum with Cap.

Steve Rogers was a super soldier that wore the costume.
Sam Wilson is The Falcon that wears the costume.

There doesn't need to be a fixation on the serum. He can achieve success through other means, like vibranium-enhanced wings, or other things. The difference is that if he takes the serum, it adversely affects the legacy of the mantle; but if he uses any other means, he shifts the association of super soldier serum away from the legacy. He wants people to remember Steve for his virtue without people fixating on the serum.

Also, it's a big plot point that the pursuit to replicate the super soldier serum creates so many bad situations. He would be a hypocrite to try to fight that epidemic AND use it.

santa99912025-12-19 23:46

Personally my fixation is because they had talked about It in both his projects. I don’t need Sam to take It.

But the idea of taking It has been a big part of both the show and the movie, and I don’t think they’ve done a good job showing why he shouldn’t, doesn’t need to, or doesn’t want to

And I would agree with that last part if they didn’t decide It now works perfectly

theFrankSpot2025-12-19 23:01

I have always thought that, in a world where meta-humans, aliens, monsters, and such exist, it’s downright stupid and suicidal to try to be a superhero without powers. I’ve never bought it and likely never will. It’s just too dumb.

Wooden-Radish-90082025-12-19 23:03

For exactly the reason Bucky lays out in Brave New World. Sam inspires in a way that Steve doesn't. Not to say Steve doesn't, but it's easier to look up to someone that doesn't owe a portion of their heroics to some unobtainable super serum.

Sam is just a guy. He's every person with the inclination to do good. He doesnt need German science or whatever, he just does the best with what he is able to get. He's a good man that also needs to put in the work to be a good soldier. That to me is more inspiring. He's not a symbol of good like Steve, he's a symbol of the good that you and I can do if we work hard enough.

Also, not for nothing, but the serum has been linked to America's terrible treatment of black people, as per Isaiah's experiences. Why would he want to utilize something that contributed to the torture and abuse of his friend and people? (This isnt even to mention Bucky's horrifying past with it.).

Like, a lot of people put this serum on a pedestal, but it's honestly a pretty horrific thing. Like read your own post, how many of the people on that list, in the long term overall, actually benefitted from that serum? Bruce and Blonsky are monsters, Bucky and Isaiah were tortured for years, it landed Red Guardian in prison after being used by a child trafficker, drove Walker and Karli crazy, and Red Skull is an actual fucking nazi. The serum is honestly kind of problematic and I don't really blame Sam for not wanting to attach his legacy to it

actuallycallie2025-12-20 15:28

>Also, not for nothing, but the serum has been linked to America's terrible treatment of black people, as per Isaiah's experiences. Why would he want to utilize something that contributed to the torture and abuse of his friend and people? (This isnt even to mention Bucky's horrifying past with it.).

People keep overlooking this, but it's very important.

beekeeper_atlamont2025-12-19 23:16

Well, none was every offered.

santa99912025-12-19 23:47

I mean the way him and Bucky talk during brave new world would suggest to me he had an option.

Maybe he never did

mrbaryonyx2025-12-19 23:22

* **He's fine without it** Plenty of superheroes don't have actual superpowers; the idea that you need them in order to "be realistic" is uncreative (and dumb, its a superhero fantasy movie). While it would be kind of dumb if he beat the Hulk in an arm-wrestling contest, action scenes are about way more than just "who is stronger". Not everything's a shonen anime where the protagonist fights a stronger opponent and then grows a new hairdo and magically becomes stronger than the opponent, there's other ways to shoot an action scene.

* **It wouldn't make that much of a difference** By the end of his tenure, Steve was fighting things like "the encroaching authoritarianism of the western surveillance state" and "Thanos", both of which were so much larger than him that he may as well have not had the Serum. He fought those things through cleverness, courage and "borrowing Thor's power level". Should Sam have Mjolnir too?

* **It's not his thing, his thing is that he flies**. At a certain point you're just asking why *every* super hero doesn't have the Serum, and it boils down to "not every superhero is the same." The scene in BNW over the Indian Ocean was a perfect example of what a Sam Wilson action scene can look like. His fight scenes a bit less so.

* **The serum has kind of an iffy history** it represents science making the Nazi Ubermensch a real thing. Steve's not a nazi, obviously, but a sizable chunk of his arc in the movies is his trying to make sure his existence isn't wielded by the US/SHIELD in nazi-adjacent ways. Sam's rejection of the serum is a rejection of the idea that you need to be a super-man to be an American hero.

Granted, Sam has a lot of problems as a character and his movie/show have a lot of problems, but this isn't one of them. It's always kind of been an instance of Marvel fans not understanding why they don't like something and just assuming its a power scale thing.

ChannelStatus42822025-12-19 23:30

In BNW I thought that The Leader was going to give Sam the serum against his will.

That could have been a good contrast especially coming from from F&TWS where Sam sees the serum as dangerous because it takes away choice and gives the wrong people too much power.

And The Leader would have been trying to prove that power is inevitable and that even someone like Sam can’t escape it.

Coulda been really cool...

santa99912025-12-19 23:49

I can get behind that for sure, would make for an interesting story and would be similar to how Bucky got It, and how Bucky has tried to now use It for good

N8CCRG2025-12-20 01:16

For the same reason Tony Stark or Natasha or Hawkeye doesn't take it. Doesn't need it.

santa99912025-12-20 02:32

Who’s to say they wouldn’t if It was presented to them

Unless im misinterpreting Brave new world, Sam had the chance and chose not to

juances192025-12-20 01:49

IMO it would also lead to a slippery slope. If the serum is that easy to get and has no real lasting side effects, why stop at Sam? why not give *everyone* the serum. (superheroes, the army, random rich people that will buy it off the black market to live longer, etc)

So I prefer we keep that vague "no one fully understands the side effects yet so it's risky".... even when we have several successfull cases.

santa99912025-12-20 02:34

Sure, but that was kinda my point of the post.

They’ve really done nothing to suggest It is bad, we just had a movie where 3 of the people who have It are doing perfectly fine

I’d love if they showed Walker, Bucky, and Aleixie struggling with It, they just haven’t

We had brief moments of Walker struggling, and now he’s good to go and an overall good guy, alone with the other 2

CulturalDragonfly6312025-12-21 05:00

In the comics, it was a thing that any attempt to recreate Captain America or Steve went badly, until Disney in its greed and hubris decided to abandon it.

TylerHyena2025-12-20 02:39

The serum isn’t what truly makes someone Captain America, the willingness to stand up for the people and be a beacon or symbol of hope when others need it and wanting to take the right course of action, no matter how hard or lonely it is, is what makes them that.

santa99912025-12-20 02:40

100%. I don’t think i implied that’s the case

My point is that in my eyes, they haven’t shown us why the serum is bad. They’re spent a show and a movie discussing if Sam should take It or not, and it’s viewed as a commendable decision by Sam to not take It

But they haven’t shown us why he shouldn’t, at least since cap 1 came out

CaptHayfever2025-12-20 07:46

Alexei & Walker both have different kinds of ego issues.
Isaiah has some mental degradation.
Bucky didn't take it voluntarily (which is why Zemo didn't feel the need to kill him in F&WS), & he has enough issues from what Hydra did to his brain that whatever the serum would've done is nothing in comparison.

pen15_club_admin2025-12-20 13:54

I don’t mind too much that he doesn’t take the serum but really hate how the writers and choreographers of his fights seem to forget that he doesn’t have the serum.

Personally I think he should have the serum. The whole point of captain America is trusting a noble person with great power.

Aromatic-Cupcake48022025-12-20 16:40

It’s gives people someone to aspire to. Anyone can become Captain America, they don’t have to be invincible. And it tests his limits of the physicality of his title.