What If Villains Ran the MCU?

I imagine a scenario or a world where all these things happen together—a world where **Wilson Fisk**, **J. Jonah Jameson**, **General Ross**, and **Baron Zemo** exist at the same time. In such a world, the superhero situation would be much worse.

Zemo captures a superhero and hands them over to the mayor. J. Jonah Jameson announces on his channel that a superhero has been caught, and Ross arrests them and puts them in the Raft.

I don’t know if this would really work, but there is a chance that, in the multiverse, there exists a world where all these supervillains are in the same timeline, the same place, and have the same level of power.

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InevitableWeight3142025-12-18 10:18

Pooling Jonah with the likes of Kingpin and Baron Zemo is crazy.

Also, this is one of the reasons I’m so excited for Beyond the Spider-Verse. Seems like we’ll get a butt load of Spidey villains hanging out all in universe 42 without a spider-man to stop them.

Defiant_Wheel48882025-12-18 11:17

Yes, they are essentially doing their own parts. Zemo does not need to work for Fisk, but he simply hates “super” . If someone can suppress them, he is willing to lend his support. Also, JJJ does not need to work directly for the government. He simply comments on events that affect people—specifically incidents related to Spider-Man and other superheroes. Zemo would be in the news daily for capturing someone, and getting praise from JJJ would be the real medal.

hell20_2025-12-18 10:36

Basically Logan but in the MCU. Some old guy survives long enough to guide a few new superheroes to a safe place so they can grow further.

Defiant_Wheel48882025-12-18 11:18

Yes, there is a chance. Superheroes can survive in the world—much like in zombie apocalypse stories, where writers show a few Avengers or Young Avengers staying alive and fighting back to find a cure, even though we know it is not technically possible. Still, these kinds of stories have strong narrative value, in my view.

marvelcomics222025-12-18 12:18

J. Jonah Jameson isn't a villain, he's just antagonistic towards Spider-Man.

Defiant_Wheel48882025-12-18 13:30

Hate is one of the crimes listed in the crime book, sir, so I can call him part of a villain. You can see that he played a major role in *Far From Home*. He revealed Spider-Man’s real identity to the world.

marvelcomics222025-12-18 14:28

He was a cameo in that, but he's as much of a villain as those grifters on YouTube, annoying pieces of shit, but at the end of the day, just random people with bad opinions.

Defiant_Wheel48882025-12-18 14:32

Yes, I agree. I think he may be present in this What IF.. MCU as a catalyst—someone who triggers events rather than being the central focus.

OrangeRed572025-12-18 15:12

>Wilson Fisk, J. Jonah Jameson, General Ross, and Baron Zemo exist at the same time.

are Ross and zemo dead? Otherwise don’t all those characters exist in the mcu?

Defiant_Wheel48882025-12-18 16:02

In our MCU they are live. As well as in my what if .. they still alive only

CaptHayfever2025-12-19 18:15

In the first third of 2027 (in-universe), Thunderbolt Ross was President, Valentina de Fontaine was CIA Director, & Wilson Fisk was NYC Mayor. Villains *were* running things.