Sam Wilson would have been a fine Captain America if...
I think Rogers was right to pass the shield to Wilson. I also think the writers failed -- both in Endgame and in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier -- to show why it was the right move.
In Captain America: The First Avenger, we are present for Steve Rogers’ defining moments long before he ever receives the serum. We watch a physically weak Rogers throw himself onto what he believes is a live grenade to save his team. We see him stand his ground against a bully, fully aware that he will lose. We watch him repeatedly attempt to enlist, knowing how likely it is that he will die if accepted. By the time he is chosen, we already know who he is: profoundly selfless, deeply patriotic, and unwilling to back down from a fight even when defeat is certain. When he finally steps out of the transformation chamber, the audience feels that something good has happened to a good man -- that power to stop evil has at last been entrusted to someone worthy of it.
The writers failed to do this work for Wilson. They failed to show why he deserved the shield when countless other capable men did not.
And the missteps didn’t end there. Knowing full well that they would ask the audience to believe Wilson could hold his own against a Hulk, survive a headfirst crash into the ocean without injury, and perform other extraordinary physical feats, the writers nevertheless chose not to give him the super-soldier serum. They feared it would “cheapen” his humanity -- a concern that clearly did not apply to Rogers. Instead, they placed Wilson in a quasi-Iron Man suit that often didn’t even protect his head.
Wilson’s lack of resonance with the audience was not his fault, nor Anthony Mackie’s. The responsibility lies entirely with the writers.
In The First Avenger, we are told that the super-soldier serum amplifies what is already present in a person. In that sense, the writers of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier may have been right to hesitate: the serum would only have magnified the absence of a fully realized character -- an absence created by their own failure to give Mackie sufficient material to work with.
In Captain America: The First Avenger, we are present for Steve Rogers’ defining moments long before he ever receives the serum. We watch a physically weak Rogers throw himself onto what he believes is a live grenade to save his team. We see him stand his ground against a bully, fully aware that he will lose. We watch him repeatedly attempt to enlist, knowing how likely it is that he will die if accepted. By the time he is chosen, we already know who he is: profoundly selfless, deeply patriotic, and unwilling to back down from a fight even when defeat is certain. When he finally steps out of the transformation chamber, the audience feels that something good has happened to a good man -- that power to stop evil has at last been entrusted to someone worthy of it.
The writers failed to do this work for Wilson. They failed to show why he deserved the shield when countless other capable men did not.
And the missteps didn’t end there. Knowing full well that they would ask the audience to believe Wilson could hold his own against a Hulk, survive a headfirst crash into the ocean without injury, and perform other extraordinary physical feats, the writers nevertheless chose not to give him the super-soldier serum. They feared it would “cheapen” his humanity -- a concern that clearly did not apply to Rogers. Instead, they placed Wilson in a quasi-Iron Man suit that often didn’t even protect his head.
Wilson’s lack of resonance with the audience was not his fault, nor Anthony Mackie’s. The responsibility lies entirely with the writers.
In The First Avenger, we are told that the super-soldier serum amplifies what is already present in a person. In that sense, the writers of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier may have been right to hesitate: the serum would only have magnified the absence of a fully realized character -- an absence created by their own failure to give Mackie sufficient material to work with.
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Look at Mon Mothma's scenes in Andor, absolutely incredible, tense, fantastic acting while she reveals to her friend at a party that she's been putting up a front. Then look at her scenes in Ahsoka, same actress but entirely different writers and production, and... yeah... She looks like a cheesy kids show character.
Most actors have not been coming off very well in the MCU movies post Endgame. Fantastic Four managed to make Pedro Pascal entirely boring, and the guy who played Eddie in season 4 of Stranger Things, and the actor for the thing who I know is awesome in other stuff. I wasn't familiar with Vanessa Kirby but she probably came off as the most interesting in the half of the movie I watched before deciding I was too bored to keep watching.
If Chris Evans had been given the same script as Captain America 4, I can't see him having come off any better either. Or compare Thor 3 and 4 with different writers, despite the same actors and director (in that case I think the director was the writer of Thor 4).
I thought he was decent in a leading role in an episode of Black Mirror I think it was called, where he and his friend were playing the virtual reality Mortal Kombat type game.
Look up Superwholock to get an idea of how dominating the Sherlock succes was on the internet circa 2016
You *could* say that, you'd be very wrong but you could say it. RDJ was Oscar nominated for best actor (Chaplin) decades before the MCU, and had led many other films; Cumberbatch was already massive due to Sherlock and was Oscar nominated for leading the Imitation Game; Chris Evans I'll somewhat give, but he'd been a co-lead in two F4 movies; Chris Hemsworth yes, Thor was his breakout; Chris Pratt was a safe bet as he was huge from Parks and Rec; Chadwick Boseman was a respected actor who had led films and played characters such as Jackie Robinson and James Brown.
Seriously dude, do your research before making such laughable claims.
In the comics he wasn't a military guy with sci-fi tech, he was just a social worker with a pet bird and a cheesy costume.
That's also my problem with MCU Hawkeye. He's just a boring 1:1 copy/paste of Black Widow but male. In the comics he's a sarcastic circus performer who brickers with Steve all the time, not a boring CIA dude.
What were they thinking by prioritizing Falcon Junior and Sabra?
Feige: "We planned it from the start, we didn't bench Sam because his film failed, I promise!"
I don’t think they were thinking about Sam becoming Cap at all in phase 2/early phase3 because they had Ant-man beat him up as a joke in his first movie.
I think making Sam the new Cap was a last minute decision made during Infinity War/Endgame’s production and that’s why it falls a bit flat. They didn’t have any set up for it, he felt like a joke character and sidekick up until that point.
The only other one was him impaling that space gorilla with the wings.
That's all I really remember.
Then a series of him not wanting the shield or the serum, then a movie of him not wanting the serum and thinking he's not good enough for the shield.
I love Sam's character. I think Anthony Mackie plays him perfectly but they never game him a big moment.
I think it could have worked in Brave New World if the ending had been different. Had Sam not had the fancy suit that basically makes him Black Panther with wings and instead just knew he couldn't stand up to Hulk but had to distract him to save people. They cheapened it by making him go toe-to-toe and even beating him.
He should have almost died, should have had scenes were Ross was turning his attention to the civilians and Sam willing to take a hit that could kill him to keep his attention while someone else took down Ross.
The movie should have ended with Sam in the hospital, barely alive after distracting Ross long enough for secret service to stick him full of tranquilizers or something. Then Sam agreeing to take the serum to heal.
I'll add on, would have been interesting to have Winter Soldier in the last fight helping, and at the end when Sam is beat to he'll and the ambulances roll in, everyone worried Sam is dead and they won't make it to a hospital in time, and you get and audio clip of Bucky telling emergency services "were the same blood type" as the screen fades to black.
Fade back in to him at the hospital with Bucky at his bedside and some marvel esq joke about "you know my blood type??" And "so am I a super soldier now?" And Bucky playing it off like a joke.
Leave it open for debate, you can have everyone wondering if it works / doesn't work until the big reveal in the next cap / Avengers movie kind of like the cap/mewmew reveal.
Would have been a cool callback to the themes of their brotherhood/rivalry and back to the dichotomy between the hero and the villain if the hero gets his powers in the same way at the end of the movie but uses it for good.
I do think it was the original plan because look how they have treated Bucky since Endgame. One minute he’s a senator, the next he’s a Thunderbolt. It’s all over the place like they don’t know what to do with him. Which is weird considering his redemption was basically the focal point of the Captain America trilogy.
Or Marvel just has no idea what to do with him like they had no idea about the futures of a bunch of characters post-Endgame. And Bucky's entire story in TFATWS was him dealing with his trauma and forming a genuine friendship with Sam and essentially redeeming himself in his own eyes. They definitely rushed him going from being a Senator to becoming a New Avenger in Thunderbolts\*, I think they should have given a scene or two of showing that he was not feeling fulfilled being a Senator so that it hit harder when he decided to step in when he did.
Who is more interesting:
Formerly brainwashed super soldier trying to make up for the horrible things he did while brainwashed.
Or generally good guy
Steve is the idealized America. Bucky is the real flawed America. Bucky as CA in the comics was a much more interesting character than Sam as CA.
The whole Brubaker CA run is brilliant.
The whole relationship with Bucky was more brotherly than anything rather than a hierarchy. He lectures more in FATWS than leads, doesn’t quite interact with many other heroes in a team setting.
It’s one thing if it’s like “okay he’s the glue guy on the team”, but other than his own “Falcon”, there’s nothing for the glue to stick to.
In the MCU it would have been frankly dumb to watch Sam give Thanos a message of empathy in IW or Endgame.
If it works and Thanos forgets his evil plan, you have no film. If it doesn't work, then that just shows how useless Sam is.
We should've gotten a CA:Falcon movie after we had a Winter Soldier series. The WS series mainly focusing on the stuff with Bucky as that part of the FatWS made it stand out with their evolving friendship still in focus, then a CA movie with Falcon an already established character
Post blip Flagsmashers that want to return the world to the pre Blip state. John Walker gets the shield. Sam and Bucky team up to take down the flagsmashers and meet Isaiah Bradley along the way who makes Sam realize he is worthy of the shield. Basically the 6 episode series but delivered as a 2 hour movie. Also, Power Broker arc should’ve tied into Damage Control and the secret Skrull invasion on earth.
Captain America: Brave New World
Similar to the movie we got but another Bucky team up. The Leader and Red Hulk stuff should’ve continued from the Power Broker plot threads in the previous movie. #itsallconnected Maybe this time, we see hints of a falling out between Bucky and Sam. This leads to Thunderbolts and Avengers vs New Avengers plot threads.
I don't know what they could have done to make me like Falcap. They would have needed to change up his character. He was too stuffy and boring, his speeches didn't ring as true, etc. Bucky had the right disposition/attitude IMO and was his own person.
I also don't think Mackie sells it. Dunno why or how, but it's just not all the way right somehow.
Imagine Michael B Jordan as Sam Wilson instead. Suddenly he's a much more believable Captain America, and someone you could imagine as a leader of a team. Unfortunately they decided to take a good side character and force him into a main character even though the actor isn't a good fit for a role like that.
With that in mind, I understand why they didn't give it to Sam. What Sam has been about for me since Endgame was finding how to be his own take on Captain America, he doesn't have to be Steve and he shouldn't be. Steve wouldn't want that either, but he thinks Sam deserves it despite being admittedly much less a "perfect hero" than the standard he held himself to. But we know how troubled the production of FATWS was and who knows, maybe the initial plot was more about giving Sam's character more meat on its bones.
They never told us he was a like for like replacement in any of the media on screen. Fans just wildly jumped to a million conclusions about Marvel’s intent because they lost a character they liked. It made you all look crazy from an outside perspective and that’s why a lot of people assumed it was just racism. Your arguments against Sam just don’t make sense if you actually watch the media.
It feels like assumptions are being made but maybe I missed something or I'm the one assuming lol I know OP didn't explicitly say anything along those lines but it's been talked about on some of the marvel subs since yesterday.
All guesswork ofc, but it makes a kind of sense.
This way, Sam would have had the choice taken from him; then it would have been a good plot point moving forward.
You know what, they could still do something like that. Where, in Doomsday, they are getting wrecked, and Sam has to take it or Captain Hydra, forces him to take it.
Because without it, he is boring. Like, in every film Steve shows up, we know stuff's about to go down. With Sam, it's just a bit like, meh.
Like, we can't get any cool Steve fight scenes with Sam. The aerial combat scenes are good, but boring. I don't want to see him fight against jets.
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Hand-to-hand combat is what makes Captain America a great character after the Winter Soldier film.
Of course it's also possible I just like him so much because I played Just Cause 3 with its Bavarium Wingsuit.
I want to see Sam do a scene like the Winter Soilder ship infiltration alone and then go onto have an actual Bucky type villain to fight.
All those films had hype moments. The best thing about Steve's character is that he is super human going up against crazy odds. It just looks good on screen.
[https://youtu.be/56FG\_Zv5vEI?t=171](https://youtu.be/56FG_Zv5vEI?t=171)
Like Sam stopping Red Hulk's baseball swing with the flag pole with his bare hands which should've broken every bone in his arms. They can't even say "oh just vibranium things" unless his gloves are vibranium which they appear not to be. Or in that movie he just goes from fight after fight after fight (fighting Gus Fring > Navy battle > Red Hulk). Dude must have infinite stamina and durability apparently. Despite the movie trying so hard to show he's not superpowered like that serum joke or him walking down the stairs.
I think they made the right decision to make Sam non-super powered. But they could've leaned far more into the trope where the strongest isn't necessarily the best leader. Sam can outshine Steve in different ways like strategy and doing things Steve can't/doesn't do. The serum amplified Steve's innate goodness and purity. Sam chose responsibility without power.
It made no sense and made him seem whiny.
They are both issues. They're not mutually exclusive.
While he does a good job as Captain America, the outside pressure and the weight of his past are too much, so he decides to give the shield to Sam. In the meanwhile Sam has time to develope and show why he is worthy to carry the shield.
https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/s/95E8FoVeI3
Why does there need to be another Captain America? It's completely contrived.
I agree they have let him down on the writing though, came late to the decision and have failed to build him properly since. I can't buy some of the stunts they put him in, equal to cap or the full ironman suit, and it takes me out of the film/TV. He's just an ordinary bloke with fighting skills like Daredevil, the Black Widows and Hawkeyes.
Alexi getting excited about the winter soldier turning up in thunderbolts to save them, was exciting and that awe had been earned. If it had been Sam's Cap it would have been less exciting. I think he should take the serum, become special.
For me, even though he's already been in several MCU films, I still don't "get" who Sam Wilson is as a character.
Why does he go out there and risk his life fighting bad guys? What drives him? How far is he willing to go to keep doing what he does?
With Steve, it was very easy to root for him, because right from the get go, we're introduced to what kind of man he is. He was someone that knew what it was like to be the little guy, and felt that it was wrong for powerful men to be able to abuse their power unchecked. "I don't like bullies, I don't care where they're from." An admirable quality, and one that is easy to get behind.
With Sam, the most I can say about him is that he idolises Steve, and tries to follow in his footsteps. The films don't give us anything deeper than that. He feels like a very under-developed character, like a sidekick and not a main character. The writers never really built him up properly. And that's why it's hard to feel any urge to root for him.
That's why I loved his conclusion in Endgame
That being said, FatWS should have been a movie. Disney absolutely kneecaped all of their post Endgame efforts by making multiple important characters moments shows, and I say this as someone who enjoyed most of them. It's just too much to follow and even if they aren't 100% necessary, it will still feel that way to most people.
Additionally I think Bucky should have had a more prominent role in BNW. I understand they want to spread out the actors who still remained after Endgame, but pretty much the only thing everyone can agree on about FatWS is the excellent chemistry between Anthony and Sebastian. Why would you break that up? Throw Zemo in there and you probably would have created more interest with the cast alone.
I mean let's be real this is a throwaway gag
I highly doubt the already overstuffed Doomsday is seriously going to make room for an actual conflict oriented around a copyright lawsuit
The comic where Sam became Cap didn't do well either.
Even if you gave Sam the best story of all time, the majority of people didn't want him as Cap.
Its long been the argument any time a film does something unpopular, "well it was in the comics". Someone a few years ago pointed out that a lot of the unpopular things that people didn't like, but were had waved with that excuse, all did poorly.
So yes, its comic accurate for Sam to become Captain America. It was also very poorly received.
In the MCU, Sam had like 5 to 10 minutes of actual screentime as a member of The Avengers. After his debut in CA2, Sam's character development stopped, and he became "Generic Background Fighter #8".
However, I think Sam’s biggest problem is (no idea if this is the case in the comics) he’s really solidly just a generic sidekick from a characterization standpoint, and his powers/capability seem extremely unearned. Plus, they decided in his first solo movie to have him personally grappling with the idea of being Captain America and putting him up against a physically tougher opponent than Steve ever faced alone (unless you count Thanos, who knocks him out with a single punch). Sam has minimal backstory/narrative investment, and is literally handed the shield/vibranium armor. It’s like they wanted to magnify that this guy isn’t Captain America in the movie where he first appears as Captain America. It’s wild.
As Captain America, wielding the shield an a vibranium suit, he’s going to be compared to: Steve, Bucky, Tony, and T’Challa/Shuri. Most of these are characters which have had significant screen time showing character growth, meaningful struggles, and sacrifice, while also all fully narratively “earning” their superpowers. Ironically, Bucky is the one in this list with the least amount of the above so I feel like he still wouldn’t feel right as Cap.
I'm a wrestling fan and there's an old saying "the championship doesn't make the guy, the guy makes the championship" meaning you can't just throw a belt on a guy and make a star. It feels like that's exactly what they were trying to do; "Well, Cap says he's the guy and gave him the shield, the audience will go for it."
Except we don't know a damn thing about Sam Wilson other then he's a nice good guy. We've seen zero proof why HE should be the guy over anyone else other then he's Steve's friend, or why he deserved it. Steve Rodgers entire character can be summed up in a single sentence; "I don't like bullies, I don't care where they're from." Sam never really had that.
Then you make an entire miniseries about him doubting himself, ping ponging between not wanting it and wanting it, while people either don't take him seriously, think he's the wrong choice, or outright disrespect him. THEN he gets his own solo movie repeating most of the above. So it's not a huge shock that at this point people aren't exactly thrilled with him as Cap.
Look at Mon Mothma's scenes in Andor, absolutely incredible, tense, fantastic acting while she reveals to her friend at a party that she's been putting up a front. Then look at her scenes in Ahsoka, same actress but entirely different writers and production, and... yeah... She looks like a cheesy kids show character.
Most actors have not been coming off very well in the MCU movies post Endgame. Fantastic Four managed to make Pedro Pascal entirely boring, and the guy who played Eddie in season 4 of Stranger Things, and the actor for the thing who I know is awesome in other stuff. I wasn't familiar with Vanessa Kirby but she probably came off as the most interesting in the half of the movie I watched before deciding I was too bored to keep watching.
If Chris Evans had been given the same script as Captain America 4, I can't see him having come off any better either. Or compare Thor 3 and 4 with different writers, despite the same actors and director (in that case I think the director was the writer of Thor 4).
I disagree completely. I loved all the tension & awkwardness in Reed's attempts to interact with people.
Yes, Sam is not a very interesting character. Giving him superpowers would not save that. He's *fine* on the power front; he flies and has adamantium. Whatever. If you can't make a Hulk fight work with that you're uncreative.
The problem is *interiority*. Sam doesn't have a lot of it.
Sam is faced with the pure reality that his country has experimented on his own people and he just lectures people.
But the actual problem was that people want a Punchy guy as Cap and Falcon will never be that.
proven wrong by the end of the movie
And that moment should've gone different. Of they had done wit right, we should've been looking forward to it. Kinda like Cap lifting Mjolnir. It was earned. We were waiting for it and when it did it was satisfying. Cap giving Sam the shield was weird and caught everyone by surprise cause they didn't set it up at all.
When he joined the MCU, Sebastian Stan was also signed for a nine-movie contract, the only other person to get that much movies from the start was Samuel L. Jackson, in expectation that Bucky would be an important character in the future.
Bucky was a central character in all of Cap's films, and the driving force in Steve's character arc. Sam didn't have that level of importance, and he felt like a mere supporting character more often than not. Even in Infinity War/Endgame, where both characters were sidelined and played a minor role, Bucky getting snapped by Thanos in front of Steve's eyes and later saying goodbye to Steve when he went to the past, both scenes felt more poignant than whatever was going on between Sam and Steve at the time.
They were clearly setting Bucky up to be the next Cap after he got redeemed by Steve, with the level of importance and foreshadowing that they gave him, plus Stan's contract. Which is why its so baffling they went for Sam considering they had done none of that build-up like they did with Bucky, and they spent most movies sidelining Mackie over him. Kind of a shame honestly.
>It should have been Bucky.
The same logic pretty much applies to Bucky, no? He was a sidekick in the first Cap movie, he was brainwashed for practically the entirety of Winter Soldier, was brainwashed for a good portion of his screen time in Civil War, and then had brief cameos in Black Panther/Infinity War.
If you like Bucky better as a character, cool. But the idea that he “earned” the shield and that Sam didn’t is not supported by the movies. Sam literally joined Cap’s Avengers team and went on the run with Steve for years, while Bucky was just chilling in Wakanda lol. **It’s also explicitly implied in Infinity War that Bucky doesn’t even want to fight anymore and doesn’t enjoy “hero” duties.**
If they had just picked *one* concept to dive in on instead of doing brainwashing, hulk, race, serum and imposter syndrome I think it had been a lot better received.
The Falcon and the Winter Soldier should of been a movie, where Sam gets a bit of a backstory, shows how he is truly worthy and along the way gets the super soldier serum of some type. Still could of had Wyatt Russell introduced as the not worthy C.A.
I just think Marvel fumbled post endgame hard. The TV series were a flop for the most part.
We’ve seen him risk his life for the sake of humanity, we’ve seen him give away his freedom to allow Steve and Bucky to go after Zemo. He’s shown himself eager to serve and help without needing to be a star. He came back from serving his country and started counselling others.
I think the big issue with him as Captain America is they havent produced a good enough film for him yet.
Steve gave Sam the shield because of all that Sam did in Winter Soldier and Civil War. Surprising how that gets confused.
Dick Grayson is a fine replacement Batman and is Bruce’s most logical “heir.” And yet, any time he puts on the cowl, no matter how much DC says it’s permanent….we know Bruce is gonna be back.
Legacy replacements seldom stick. And with their tentpole floundering, Disney certainly wasn’t going to die on he hill of a legacy character.
Why do you need a new Captain America? Fans already loved him as Falcon and he had his own niche.
Not everything must be serialized. But more importantly: get comfortable with recasting!
James Bond does not continue to sell tickets 50+ years after his cinematic debut because MGM has James retire and then a legacy spy comes in, takes the code number, etc. No one wants to see a sequel to No Time to Die starring Lashana Lynch’s Nomi. We want to see James Bond in a James Bond movie.
Not a slight at Nomi or Lynch. Not a reflection that the character has no place in a Bond movie. But rather a reflection that MGM probably ought not make a James Bond movie without James Bond.
Similarly — Disney probably shouldn’t have made a Captain America movie without Captain America. Yes, Sam inherited the title narratively. But when audiences come to see a Captain America movie, they are there for Steve Rogers. He is Captain America. Sam may have held the title narratively. But Steve is the character people followed and became attached to. Just like Nomi was 007. But she wasn’t the 007 people were there to see.
It seems ironic that you praise them for showing Steve's heroism without the serum, and then criticize Sam for doing the same thing.
It is very clear the MCU Bucky is still dealing with a lot of baggage and wouldn't want the iconic Captain America mantle, a hero that people believe in, to be inherited by him who has killed so many innocent people.
Steve was chosen for the serum because he was a good man and this is exactly why Steve chose Sam. Sam helped Steve out in The Winter Soldier, even when it put himself in greater danger. He helped look for Bucky for Steve, even though it is very clear he didn't particularly like the guy. He fought against the government and stood against the Sokovia accords. He did eventually help Bucky with his demons as well. Sam is a good man.
Too many people keep clamouring about Sam getting the Super Serum but him not having it is what make Sam different from Steve. People just want Steve 2.0 which is not who Sam is.
BNW isn't a great film but there is a great line from Bucky
"Steve gave them something to believe in, you give them something to aspire to"
Sam having no powers or serum, yet being the most iconic hero is a meaningful thing for the people in the MCU world. Shows them that anyone can be a hero and you don't need drugs to be able to become one.
I do wish the writers of FATWS and BNW did do a better job with illustrating more of Sam's unique strength and more of his struggles of not having a serum.
Hopefully, Doomsday and Secret Wars does a better job with the character
The not very endearing character harassing the actually endearing characters is not a great look.
i would even say the serum thing wouldn’t be a problem but marvel wants everything to be as big as endgame now which just can’t happen. give him a solo movie with stakes made for him and it would not be this bad
IW and Endgame COULD have tried to give Sam more spotlight. Have Sam almost die getting the gauntlet away from Thanos instead of that scene with Captain Marvel.
Or have Sam be the one to defeat Proxima Midnight in IW using his ingeniunity instead of Black Widow defeating her.
Anything to make him standout and signal to the audiences: "this sidekick is ready to be a lead." But nothing. It was clear the Russos din't care enough so why should the audience?
In the last episode he gave the "We have to do better" speech, and he just couldn't pull it off. Sam was jumping around, speaking with uneven energy, it was a pale imitation of any of Steve's speeches and looked downright pathetic next to his "Freedom has a high price" soliloquy.
Perhaps it was the material, but the speech actually sounded pretty good by itself. It lay in the delivery, it lay in the character of the man giving it.
Sorry Sam.
Having said all that, I think Sebastian Stan shoulda been the next one. He’s on another tier level of acting compared to both. Plus Bucky’s path of redemption, acceptance from the public, former Soviet agent turned into symbol of America, and back to his good old “I’m with you to the end” ways would be more way interesting.
The strength serum thing wasn't as big an obstacle in the comics, because that version only brought Steve to the level of a champion weightlifter. It wasn't like the MCU one where he was well more than twice as strong as any unmodified human.
But there's another big problem: the whole concept of replacing Captain America at all. In the comics, Captain America was a secret identity so it was believable that someone like John Walker could wear the mask and the public might not notice the difference.
But in the MCU, Steve Rogers had been publically known as Cap since before Sam Wilson was born. Kids learned him in their history books. Regardless of qualifications, it doesn't make sense in that world to use the same code-name for a different person.
In the same way, it makes no sense to have a second Hawkeye. But replacements for Antman and Black Panther can work, because the suit design hides personal identity.
Plato is attributed with saying in so many words "only those who do not desire power are truly qualified to hold it".There are many real life examples of this, with one of the best being the Roman commander Lucius Quinctius Cinncinatus. After retiring from government, LQC became a farmer. To make a long story short, after a military blunder against a barbarian tribe, Rome was threatened on their eastern regions by the tribe. LQC was quickly appointed as dictator and he led a campaign which defeated the enemy and saved the day. Upon returning to Rome, he relinquished his power within two weeks and returned to his farm. His story is often credited as what it means to have civic virtue, because he could have just as easily returned to Rome and taken total control of the government - he was already given the title of dictator *and* just returned home as the savior of the republic. But he didn't.
The entire story of Falcon and the Winter Soldier is about how Sam doesn't want the mantle of responsibility of being Captain America because he doesn't feel worthy of holding the title. Bucky sees in Sam the same qualities that Steve did - Homewood who is humble and upstanding and does the right thing even when it's hard to do. Sam doesn't want the shield because he doesn't think that he can live up to the legacy of Steve Rogers. Walker wants the shield because he believes it's something that he is worthy of, but he hasn't earned the responsibility of wielding it. He doesn't deserve it.
It's not that Sam deserves the mantle simply because he doesn't want it but it's because of his character and because he won't abuse the responsibility that comes with wielding the power of what it means to be Captain America that he is worthy of holding the title. FATWS established this pretty well, I thought. Sam even had a long monolog about this specific thing when he's addressing the congressman at the end of the last episode: "we've got to do better". Not "you" have to do better, but "we". The word choice of a leader.
I mean, yea. Eternals would've been fine... if it wasn't bad. She Hulk would've received standing ovations from everyone... if it wasn't the show that it is. Thor 4 could've been a defining moment for Thor and this new MCU era... had they done just about everything differently.
Like, I've not seen a single critique *ever* arguing that something was conceptually impossible. I've never seen someone complain that Sam could and should *categorically* never be Captain America. None of that. The critique is just about always that the product is just shit. Not inherently shit, but shit because the people in charge made bad decisions. Sam isn't shit because Mackie is bad, Sam is shit because the writers for Sam are talentless hacks.
MCU's 4th and 5th phase as a whole would've been completely fine, better than Infinity and Endgame even... if the quality of most projects wasn't utterly and laughably bad. The truly sad part though is that it apparently took them 20 failed projects to *presumably* realize that.
And no, I don't think that we need a particularly legendary passing of the torch to make something like Mackie's Sam work. Yelena didn't get all that much when she took over from Natasha - people just embraced her because she was a fun character, Pugh is literally oozing charisma and within like 5 minutes of Thunderbolts the writers managed to give her more character than Sam in 8 hours of his own show + 2 hours of his own movie. They quite literally just needed to give the guy *something* - *anything*. Unfortunately though, the biggest thing they could have given Sam, you know, the whole race angle, was instead offloaded to Isaiah (whom people also seem to really like, mhmmm) - leaving Sam with obscure money struggles... and the relatable struggle of his friends just thinking too much of him (although all of that happens offscreen - onscreen we're instead left with: ).
I think Sam might just be the worst handled character of the entire MCU.
Tony is a billionaire genius that *invented* his own suit. *It feels earned* because under insane pressure he did in fact make one from weapon parts in a cave.
Tony keeps iterating on his suits. He invents time travel to save the universe.
Sam and Joaquin are just highly trained soldiers that were given their tech that they had nothing to do with making.
Sure Clint and Natasha are just “peak humans” too. But their skills are legendary.
While it was fun at the time to speculate, we as an audience should not have been questioning if it was Bucky or Sam who would take up the mantle. He should've been an Avenger in AOU, he suffers from an overcrowded cast in Civil War, Infinity War and Endgame, and then when we finally get round to his own project we're left with a character we've 'known' for nearly a decade that we don't REALLY know. And hey that's fine we didn't know anything about Steve before his first movie either, but the point is he has his own movie, he had subsequent movies that gave him arcs and a larger story. Sam is basically the same character in every movie up until FaWS, and then basically stays the same throughout that show and BNW, with his only 'arc' being the pressure of taking up the Cap mantle which they settled in FaWS but dug up again in BNW.
Steve Rogers is a static character. His morals, opinions, and general characterisation doesn't really change, thats what makes him different than nearly every other character in the MCU. But he does develop, and that's the difference. We learn more about him with each movie, his relationships with all the other characters deepens, the stakes against him are constantly upped and we get to see how he deals with an intergalactic threat in Avengers vs a more personal conflict in Civil War. Sam doesn't have any of that. He cracks wise, has basically no flaws (which even Steve wasn't free from), and he never really changes. Hell the latest mention we get of him is how he's apparently copyrighting the Avengers brand and all the New Avengers hate him. Not exactly an inspiring leader for our heros to rally behind at the end of our saga.
Cap is a strong man who stands by his principles. He is a leader, he is just, he is always looking to do the right thing, fight the right fight. He is a solid and reliable friend, who will always be there for you. And you can see all of that just by looking at Chris Evans in this role. He was a brilliant casting choice for the role of Cap.
Do I get the same impression by looking at Antohony Mackie on the screen? Personally, no. And that's the biggest problem for me.
Steve, Tony and Thor all went through a redemption arc of a sort, they all evolved. The other characters evolved out of their stories which is why it's not felt the same since our core avengers left.
I'm aware we had Thor 4: Paul Blart Space Cop but it was such a terrible waste and awful rendition of him and his side characters we might as well of not bothered.