All 2025 MCU movies combined couldn’t outgross DP3, which came close to 2023 MCU totals during a weaker phase—no surprise Marvel is banking on nostalgia for the next Avengers. Thoughts?
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Complete_Sign_28392025-12-15 16:50
Ppl r denying it now but looking back, we will all realize this saga was a mess.
The shift from Kang to Doom, the relying on cameos, loose threads in post credits scenes, bad projects, box office failures, and the no proper lineup with new characters
EntrepreneurAble66562025-12-15 16:50
I hate that it proves to the general audience to not watch this years movies
AppropriatePurple6092025-12-15 16:51
I get this is a literal sequel to endgame and we haven't seen Steve since and I'm excited to see him but cmon man.... We have so many characters to explore and to give the spotlight but they're giving it to Steve.
YesImHereAskMeHow2025-12-15 16:55
The entire box office is in a slump and has been for years. They will outgross all of their previous movies with the next three releases.
Can we go one day without doomposting and negative comments about the mcu in this sub? It’s getting weird
Kj699999992025-12-15 17:09
I honestly find it so funny when some fans talk about box office returns like they're the producers of the film.
16tdean2025-12-15 17:20
Disney don't give that much of a shit about the box office either.
Disney's movies are basically advertisements, the main thing they care about for making money has been and always will be merchandising.
CaptHayfever2025-12-15 18:05
Especially when it's the exact same person posting the exact same information that they'd posted the day before.
YesImHereAskMeHow2025-12-15 18:21
Gotta get those rage upvotes somehow
CommunityDragon1842025-12-15 16:55
Do you guys ever stop bitching ?
TenPointsforListenin2025-12-15 17:04
I honestly think when they started making more money, they treated the MCU like any other product- they increased production of the product.
The problem is that the MCU in the past worked off of recognizable characters and cross promotion of films between movies. This amount of films is good if you assume any film will be equally popular, but it’s harder for fans to get invested in characters when they will show up once for their own movie then never again.
I loved Thunderbolts. There will probably not be thunderbolts 2.
I kinda migrated over to the DCU because of this. Superman movie, Supergirl movie that was teased in the Superman movie, second Superman movie.
-Darkslayer2025-12-15 17:25
Yep I think you hit the nail on the head. None of the pre-Avengers P1 films lit the box office on fire, but they were all modest successes and more importantly gave the audience a lot of experience with the characters in a short time. P2 was the same. So, when they started branching in P3, it still worked because we saw all the characters again very soon.
They abandoned that approach for some reason. The lack of a build-up Avengers film was I think the biggest self-wound. Say MoM was an Avengers film instead of a Strange film. Boom, you establish Shang-Chi, Strange, Captain Marvel, Falcon, and others as your main characters (bonus points for having them brought together to fight a character we know well already!).
lanwopc2025-12-15 17:05
I 100% don't care.
Tristonia72025-12-15 17:08
Dang The Marvels did awful!
Ok_Employer78372025-12-15 17:08
These huge cultural phenomena are generational. You still get enormous, discrete hits, but the MCU itself, _as a cultural tsunami_, has run its course. Kids want their own thing. The MCU is no longer that.
_Football_Cream_2025-12-15 17:43
Marvel isn't banking on "nostalgia" for the Avengers- they're banking on what made this franchise a phenomenon in the first place. And they're correct to get back to it.
The reason it's been struggling (beyond overall box office woes across the board) is because they lost touch with that secret sauce that made the Infinity Saga so good. Everything felt integrated with some connecting tissue with a clear line to the special main events: you know, *the Avengers.* The team-ups were what made it cool and they lost touch with that by not having an actual team for too long.
I know there were lots of hiccups - pandemic, Majors scandal, writers strike - so plans certainly got derailed and changed. But if they can really recenter the MCU on the big actual Avengers event movies, then I think the hype can come back. We just desperately need these team-up movies to happen again, and for other installments in the MCU to feel like they are building into that broader narrative, where they all had some of that "can't miss" quality to it. Because I think the biggest problem without having a clear line of sight into how one property was building into that broader narrative, it's all felt like *can miss* content.
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The shift from Kang to Doom, the relying on cameos, loose threads in post credits scenes, bad projects, box office failures, and the no proper lineup with new characters
Can we go one day without doomposting and negative comments about the mcu in this sub? It’s getting weird
Disney's movies are basically advertisements, the main thing they care about for making money has been and always will be merchandising.
The problem is that the MCU in the past worked off of recognizable characters and cross promotion of films between movies. This amount of films is good if you assume any film will be equally popular, but it’s harder for fans to get invested in characters when they will show up once for their own movie then never again.
I loved Thunderbolts. There will probably not be thunderbolts 2.
I kinda migrated over to the DCU because of this. Superman movie, Supergirl movie that was teased in the Superman movie, second Superman movie.
They abandoned that approach for some reason. The lack of a build-up Avengers film was I think the biggest self-wound. Say MoM was an Avengers film instead of a Strange film. Boom, you establish Shang-Chi, Strange, Captain Marvel, Falcon, and others as your main characters (bonus points for having them brought together to fight a character we know well already!).
The reason it's been struggling (beyond overall box office woes across the board) is because they lost touch with that secret sauce that made the Infinity Saga so good. Everything felt integrated with some connecting tissue with a clear line to the special main events: you know, *the Avengers.* The team-ups were what made it cool and they lost touch with that by not having an actual team for too long.
I know there were lots of hiccups - pandemic, Majors scandal, writers strike - so plans certainly got derailed and changed. But if they can really recenter the MCU on the big actual Avengers event movies, then I think the hype can come back. We just desperately need these team-up movies to happen again, and for other installments in the MCU to feel like they are building into that broader narrative, where they all had some of that "can't miss" quality to it. Because I think the biggest problem without having a clear line of sight into how one property was building into that broader narrative, it's all felt like *can miss* content.