Is the Darkhold from WandaVision the same copy or a different copy than the one in Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D.
So, when Multiverse Of Madness came out and confirmed that all copies of the Darkhold were copied from the walls of Mount Wundagore, I thought that the book in Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Runaways was just a different copy than the one seen in WandaVision and Multiverse Of Madness. However, some have said that since the Darkhold can change its appearance, show different people what they want to know in their mother tongue, etc. , it could still be the same copy of the book, and personally, I think that's a cool idea, and it does make sense.
Also, before some idiot says that the latter is false because all the copies of the Darkhold we've seen in Marvel Studios media (which, by the way, is two) look the same, using that same logic, a Doctor Strange variant who looks like Peter Hooten cannot exist at all because we've only seen those who look like Benedict Cumberbatch. (TBF that doesn't really apply here since Multiverse Logic vs. Book changing its appearance.)
Also, before some idiot says that the latter is false because all the copies of the Darkhold we've seen in Marvel Studios media (which, by the way, is two) look the same, using that same logic, a Doctor Strange variant who looks like Peter Hooten cannot exist at all because we've only seen those who look like Benedict Cumberbatch. (TBF that doesn't really apply here since Multiverse Logic vs. Book changing its appearance.)
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She held a town captive and traumatized them.
When confronted, she booted out the people and expanded the wall.
Not exactly innocent.
Everyone was glaring at her as she left town.
What didn’t work from the show to film for you?
I’m happy she was a tragic villain instead of some bland hero like she was pre Wandavision. Sometimes heroes fall and Wanda’s whole character in MCU or comics has moments like that.
So yeah not only the crew not give a fuck about AoS, their boss also could not give a fuck either.
setting old lace on all of you
Getting snubbed before the release of Infinity War doesn't change the years of producers, writers, and directors making sure Shield had moments relevant and in time with every other canon movie before IW.
There are too many world altering events that happen in the show that straight up don't happen in the movies, and vice versa.
The one where doctor strange sacrificed himself.
> multiverse variants looking different
We’ve seen both. We’ve seen variants look the same (Doctor Strange) but we’ve also seen variants look different (Loki, Spider-Man)
For the moment let's just say the state of the book is up to whichever director is utilizing it. And atm all versions are destroyed.
It became more and more evident as time went on, but some fans just never gave up the ghost.
I loved the show all throughout, watched it religiously, but to keep denying that Marvel internally did not consider it canon and *simply didn't care* is just unreasonable.
With that said, and not getting into the debate of which isn’t the discussion here (you know which one); with the information we have been given, I think it should be believed the Darkhold we see in Agents of Shield is a copy of another Darkhold, Much like the one we see in the film. So at that point, it doesn’t break canon and helps separate any confusion between the two versions of the book and not have to rely on the comic version for the different appearances.
There's a reason why Strange and Adam Warlock dictated the magical and cosmic power landscape, removing them doesn't make it easier to tell stories with other characters as we're finding out
It's canon-adjacent. If you want it to be, it can be, but the people making the films and Disney+ shows aren't going to draw from it.
Also AOS doesnt offer anything to the MCU that would make if better.
However Multiverse of Madness kind of makes it easy for it to be different with the whole copies thing.
Please.
The Wandavision version is literally glowing with evil and telegraphing that it's THE EXTRA EVIL MAGIC TOME THAT WILL HAUNT YOU. It feels on-the-nose to me
With no text its 10x better. Dont blame the budget for bad design choices
Like the regional Harry Potter novels.
The Darkhold is the friends we made along the way.
*If they're the same:* In spring 2017, Ghost Rider stashed it in a dark dimension, where Morgan Le Fay happened to be imprisoned. She found it & brought it back to Earth when she was freed in early 2018. Then the Runaways re-imprisoned her without the book in mid-2018, & Tina Minoru took it. It's next seen in fall 2023, when the Scarlet Witch takes it from Agatha Harkness, giving Agatha a 5-year window to have taken it from Tina. As for the cover, they establish immediately in Agents of SHIELD that the cover can change appearance; another version of it is even shown onscreen.
But thanks to Multiverse of Madness and Agatha All Along establishing that there are multiple copies, and *every* copy now having been destroyed, the argument is moot anyway.
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My favorite is from the Drakhold: Pages from the Book of Sins comic where individual pages of the Darkhold are being delivered to random civilians. The concept of regular people using the Darkhold unknowingly and causing demonic chaos while the heroes race to stop it is great.
I also like the reference in comics that the Necronomicon is a poor copy of the Darkhold and subsequently being less powerful. (I don’t know if that was ever fully canonized or just an old throwaway line.)
I honestly hoped for more from Raimi in regard to the Darkhold but it’s not a bad start. I love undead Strange and I’m sure Raimi would have gone even crazier if he could.
Here’s to hoping it makes its way into whatever they do with Blade and Werewolf by Night!
Or Its possibly it’s the same one. AoS goes a LOT more into how the Darkhold actually works and it has been shown to change itself based on who is reading it. If a native English speaker read it, it would be in English, and would change to another language if someone else read it. When Ava the LMD (sidenote, who is one of the best written characters and definitely one of the best performances in the entirity of the MCU, if you havent seen season 4 of AoS, it is by far one of the best parts of the entire MCU and is very worth a watch) read it, she read it in binary code IIRC.
The Darkhold adapts and changes based on who is reading it. Its very possible that it changed its own cover at some point. Possibly someone had it and wanted a different cover, so the Darkhold obliged, and its had that cover ever since.
It passed through a few hands before Agatha. Quite a few different people had it at different points in AoS, then Ghost Rider took it to another dimension, and next time we see it is when Morgan le Fay has it in Runaways.
So nope, not the same book.
It could be that Agatha lost possession of it for a few years during the events of AoS as well. But who knows really where AoS fits in the multiverse anymore. It may be a slightly different version of the sacred timeline. I mean AoS even switched timelines at the end of S5, and again in S7, possibly multiple times due to all the time travel shenanigans.