Would you like the Punisher to be changed to something more powerful and supernatural or keep it classic and grounded?
1. Cosmic Ghost Rider= Frank died and came back as a Ghost Rider, thanks to Mephisto, and with the cosmic power, thanks to Galactus. He travels in space and "adopted" baby Thanos.
2. The Leader of the Hand= the ninja group "the Hand" resurrected Frank's family, but use him as the new incarnation of the demonic leader of the group.
3. Franken Castle= Frank died and came back as a Frankenstein monster, thanks to Dr.Morbius's experiments; he later joins other Marvel monsters.
The punisher is an amazing character, and Jon Berthal is fantastic as Frank.
I don't know if the actor is interested in changing the character from street level to a supernatural one, but it could very cool to see.
We have seen the classic version of the Punisher for years, and I wouldn't be surprised if Marvel Studios want to upgrade it in something more.
Would you like this changings (for the 616 character) or could it work better for variants from the Multiverse?
Variants (even portrayed by different actors) could also coexist in the main universe, after the secret wars.
2. The Leader of the Hand= the ninja group "the Hand" resurrected Frank's family, but use him as the new incarnation of the demonic leader of the group.
3. Franken Castle= Frank died and came back as a Frankenstein monster, thanks to Dr.Morbius's experiments; he later joins other Marvel monsters.
The punisher is an amazing character, and Jon Berthal is fantastic as Frank.
I don't know if the actor is interested in changing the character from street level to a supernatural one, but it could very cool to see.
We have seen the classic version of the Punisher for years, and I wouldn't be surprised if Marvel Studios want to upgrade it in something more.
Would you like this changings (for the 616 character) or could it work better for variants from the Multiverse?
Variants (even portrayed by different actors) could also coexist in the main universe, after the secret wars.
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Unless they go with "frankencastle"
I wont complain
In live action crazy stuff like this is harder to do without it completing coming out of left field and because real people age once you make a change that’s basically the character changed
That being said, I'd love to see Bernthal do Chris Golden's Angel Punisher. That run was cut unfortunately short
Me personally, I want him grounded. Raw, human emotions with war in his eyes. It would make him a better character, feeling he got nothing to loose.
If you give this man super powers, he would wreck things up without any dialogue or thinking.
Bucky never turned into something supernatural and it felt like he contributed in The Battle of Wakanda. Frank can do the same. IF you must give him an iron man suit for one scene or something, just to see his face in that sucker.
OR reed richards
OR FORGE if they are writing this X-men plotline well. . .
can make him some sick 50 cal sniper ammo that has a black hole in it or some equivalent.
if you MUST MUST warp him into something non-human I'd hope maybe Apocalypse is using a techno-organic virus and making Frank a horseman of the apocalypse along archangel or something.
He's not a good man. He's not a paragon of virtue. He's not a hero who's going to save the day. He's going to kill the bad guy and then disappear because he doesn't want to deal with the consequences.
If you power him up to play with the big boys, you have to accept that he's going to have to be different than he was, and that past is going to haunt him.
Like I can see them adapting Frankencastle where he ends up on the trail of a child killer only to find out they are a supernatural entity and gets ripped apart
His body is found by Elsa Bloodstone, Jack, and Man-Thing. They used the stone to bring him back as Frankencastle and the 4 of them team up. Once he heals he walks away from them saying something like, "this shits above my pay grade."
It would be a good Halloween mini series.
Not saying all of those stories are good (for example I’m really not a fan of when he became an Angel or the leader of The Hand), but it’s also resulted in some really fun and unique stories (I really liked Frankencastle and during Civil War when the real heroes were too busy fighting each other so Frank decided to step up and start taking down supervillains, for example).
I think those stories are really fun and a nice little (temporary) derailment from the status quo, but they only work BECAUSE it’s an exception, not a rule. If Punisher stories became regularly supernatural or over the top like that, it would lose its pizazz and I’d miss classic Punisher, but having the norm be classic gang-busting Punisher makes it that much more exciting and engaging when he occasionally has to fight a supervillain or go to Asgard or become a monster, etc.
EDIT: sorry, went on a tangent and forgot to relate it back to the original inquiry about the MCU lol. I don’t know how long Bernthal would keep up the character, but depending on how many projects he gets/appears I’d like the same kinda concept to apply. Keep him grounded and doing typical Punisher things, but every once in a while give him an opportunity to step out of that bubble. Like so far he’s had a lot of content that’s pretty grounded, Daredevil S2, his own show, Born Again, and soon his Special Presentation. Then he’s gonna get to go full superhero in Brand New Day by teaming up with Spidey, fighting the Hulk, etc. after that, get him back to grounded for whatever other projects he pops up in, then maybe give us another supernatural project down the line (like Midnight Sons or something)
The puncher doesn't need superpowers when miniguns exist.
But let’s be honest here, no matter how much I and everyone else loves the original Punisher, an alternate universe Cosmic GR movie with Jon Bernthal, Josh Brolin, Ralph Ineson, and Sasha Baron Cohen would be awesome.
That said, one of my favorite Punisher stories is Blood on the Moors, where Frank brushes up against magic sword stuff, but it really isn't his.
We've never had a PROACTIVE Punisher out there, hunting day after day in his true element.
After we've had a few seasons and movie appearances, maybe he could die in a large Avengers movie doing something important.
And then...we could resurrect him as Frankencastle and ally him with the Midnight Sons or resurrect him as Cosmic Ghost Rider in Valhalla. But leave that for years after the street version has had his due.
Id like MCU punisher to be more stable, but otherwise i want a calculating gun nut who even when he seems to be in retreat is enacting a preplanned trap or war of attrition to accomplish his goal
Give him microchip as surveillance and overwatch with some drones and emplaced weapons or whatever, but he doesn't need demon infusion or cosmic whatsits or the like
He also is at his best going after crime rings and cartels, not really super power actors, especially since those type characters tend to not die, and hes one hundo trying to kill, hes not batman
with him as ghost rider would be so amazing