who did it and look better?

Both look great, but Natasha has the confidence, and more striking appearance, bold and almost perfect woman when shoots her widow bites, while Yelena is more messy, flawed and loose when she shoots her bites. both are amazing but very different within both characters as different types as assassins aka heroes

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bristenli2025-12-12 20:16

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Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 20:19

hell yes

PCofSHIELD2025-12-12 20:22

Than what’s Scarlet?

bristenli2025-12-12 20:23

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16tdean2025-12-12 20:25

How do people even know and keep track of these things man.

Thattheheck2025-12-12 21:47

That’s a good question

blackbutterfree2025-12-12 21:55

Viral Twitter/Instagram posts, I'd imagine. That's how I found out Quentin Tarantino badmouthed a handful of actors, including Palestinian Paul Dano, that he lives in Israel, and that he very recently and very publicly defended Woody Allen by saying his 13 year old victim wanted it. Which... Ew.

CaptHayfever2025-12-13 00:54

What the crap, Quentin!?

Heisenburgo2025-12-12 20:46

Black Widow supports General Dreykov? No way...

Hero-Husband2025-12-12 20:17

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Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 20:19

yes

The_Light_Keeper42025-12-12 20:18

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Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 20:20

yep

DigitalJedi8502025-12-12 20:37

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Spicy_Weissy2025-12-12 20:46

I doubt ScarJo cares about what he has to say.

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 20:46

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PezDiSpencersGifts2025-12-12 20:18

Demeter is a goddess

Teliporter3342025-12-12 20:18

I like Yelena more, I think she’s a much more interesting character, but Natasha looked better while doing it.

Both actresses are gorgeous so this isn’t me knocking either of them

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 20:20

that's great

streakermaximus2025-12-12 20:22

Of course Natasha looked better doing it.

She's a poser.

Odd_Relief10692025-12-12 20:27

How?

275MPHFordGT402025-12-13 06:28

In *Black Widow* Yelena mocked Natasha throughout the movie about the poses Natasha strikes when she fights.

SkintCrayon2025-12-13 07:49

I thought it was just about the superhero landing. I may be misremembering

banmeandidelete2025-12-12 20:28

Seriously, this is all intentional to play into the ongoing joke.

GlockPurdy132025-12-12 20:45

What joke?

souledgar2025-12-12 21:13

In Black Widow, Yelena exasperatedly comments on how Natasha always manages to strike a dramatic hero pose doing everything.

GlockPurdy132025-12-12 21:18

Ohhhh lmao I remember that. Thought there was some inside joke in this sub. Thanks for clarifying!

illucio2025-12-12 21:09

Natasha was a total poser

jamesbondswanson2025-12-12 20:18

I mean you’re picking one scene that’s meant to be a “pose” shot and another that’s a mid action scene moment. So obviously Natasha’s looks better with your comparison because it was meant to for that shot.

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 20:22

yes

souledgar2025-12-12 21:14

Does Nat ever do anything other than pose shots? ;)

Yellwsub2025-12-12 22:14

Ugh, she’s such a poser

Medical-Law-2362025-12-13 02:20

If you gotta do it might as well make it look good.

CaptHayfever2025-12-12 20:18

Context matters here. Yelena is in a desperate situation; Natasha is not.

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 20:20

true.

mrbaryonyx2025-12-12 20:28

>Yelena's picture was taken in the middle of a frantic action scene, Natasha's was taken in a close-up profile during a break in the action

CaptHayfever2025-12-12 20:35

Agreed. Are you quoting something?

ubutterscotchpine2025-12-12 21:06

Yeah, OP is really silly. You can’t compare these two scenes at all.

EcksFountain1322025-12-13 09:05

Plus, Yelena was firing at Bob. Bob is her friend: she doesn't actually want to hurt him.

ck6142025-12-13 19:55

Natasha was firing at someone from her own “side” at the airport battle no? I think Black Panther but can’t remember. Of course, she was doing it to help out her closer friend, Steve, and Bucky to escape

EcksFountain1322025-12-13 20:02

Yes, but she didn't really know T'Challa and had little to no emotional connection with him: wheras Steve was a very close friend and had been for years. If Clint had been the one chasing Cap and Bucky she might have felt more conflicted and looked less calm.

ck6142025-12-13 22:30

fair point

thearcherofstrata2025-12-12 20:21

Lol what is this simp energy. They have completely different personalities. Natasha has always been cool under pressure, while Yelena is a firecracker.

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 20:32

exactly, its fun to see how different they are.

ubutterscotchpine2025-12-12 21:09

I definitely think that also stems from the fact that Natasha was always a spy, whereas Yelena has always been more assassin.

thearcherofstrata2025-12-12 21:26

OOH. Good distinction. Never realized that.

omnired442025-12-12 20:22

Such a poser

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 20:34

our favourite posers

Apbuhne2025-12-12 20:23

Kalm.

Panik.

CaptainHawaii2025-12-12 20:24

Pretry sure that in a fight, your hair doesn't really fucking matter? Yelana was using them under imence pressure. Natasha had the element of surprise.

"See this orange? You like it? You're dumb. Apple is better."

Thats what those boils down to. So yes, the el dorado meme. Both. Both is good.

INKatana2025-12-12 20:24

Nat on both counts

MaliousWindu2025-12-12 20:24

Who did engrish?

DoomsdayThor2025-12-12 20:24

Natasha

xidle22025-12-12 20:24

Nat: focused and precise

Yelena: urgent, panik

sn00tytooty2025-12-12 20:29

this is such a lame question

soulnova2025-12-12 20:31

100% Yelena. Love her character way more than Nat. Nat was a bad ass but I could not relate to her. I knows what it feels like to bed lonely or overwhelmed. Or fell like an imposter to my current role.

teetaps2025-12-12 20:31

I love how you specifically paused a mid-action moment with no stability or flattering angle, lighting, or framing for yelena then criticised how she looks. 11/10

Riley__642025-12-12 20:33

It’s kind of unfair to compare these photos because they’re both in very different situations.

Natasha is holding someone back from a distance meanwhile yelena is in the middle of a fight of course she’s going to look more messy

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 20:39

yes, but its interesting how they use their bites and by making them polar opposites as well

Riley__642025-12-12 20:40

But it’s not really polar opposite if they’re in too different situations.

Natasha isn’t in a fight so of course she looks calm and collected, I’m sure in an actual fight she’d look just as messy as yelena

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 20:56

yes, because they were trained in the same environment, but where fighting abilities are different to show the type of assassins they are. one is polish and perfect, while the other is flawed, chaotic and how different she is from Natasha

Soulsbornekiroringer2025-12-12 20:39

Scarlett Johansson, while very hot (and much less so in the later movies btw, she started to look weird imo), reads like a brick wall. I think it’s meant to be that way because of her childhood but I much prefer Yelena who just doesn’t have her shit together literally and figuratively, and there’s some actual emotion behind her lines. Also, Florence Pugh is way better looking TO ME…

Sunshine1452025-12-12 20:39

The one people watched.

Buhos_En_Pantelones2025-12-12 20:49

Scarlett Johanson will always look better doing literally anything than anyone else.

... is my opinion.

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 20:57

me too.

NickFromIRL2025-12-12 20:50

I feel no need to position better or worse. They are different, and different is good.

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 20:58

yeah, but its just fun to talk about

NickFromIRL2025-12-12 21:04

Yeah, I only mean to say that they don't need to be framed as one superior Widow. The portrayals and character attitudes and everything else can certainly be discussed. I love Yelena and Florence Pugh, I think she brings a considerably much-needed heart to the MCU that has been missing in later films/tv shows and I really think Disney/Marvel should use her more as a front-loading personality for the franchise if they can get it... problem is I think she likes making proper art too so probably is too busy to carry it. I think Scarlet Johannsen has some great chops, she brought a Black Widow who feels a little bit more "2000s cool" in terms of film tropes and that worked great for how she fit in with her peers. She's a badass, paired well in subtle moments with Banner/Hulk, and delivered exactly what she needed to for the time she was in the MCU.

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 21:11

yeah, exactly, Nat was already working for better people like Clint and Shield pre iron man 2 and was already an eye catching, sexy, gorgeous badass, who was mysterious and very femme fatal like where Yelena was dealing with Grief after being fixed by the red dust, reuniting with her family and then trying to find her purpose and be part of a bigger team.

Boring_Newspaper57962025-12-12 20:54

is this question needed

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 20:59

not really, but its just simple and not too serious

Bulky-Abrocoma-22582025-12-12 21:05

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Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 21:12

To me, she's the perfect woman for me in my opinion.

Anxious-Program-19402025-12-12 21:06

Florence makes my spine tingle 😏✨

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 21:13

me too. She's a lovable dork and goofy princess

Then_North_63472025-12-12 21:13

I love Florence pugh as Yelena, but the black widow movie was so much better to her than thunderbolts.

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 21:15

i love both, but for different reasons

Then_North_63472025-12-12 22:24

I think black widow had a stronger plot, and thunderbolts had a bit more heart.

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 22:51

yes

judasmitchell2025-12-12 21:13

Natasha was great, but Yelena is even better.

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 21:16

i love both, but for different reasons

Gon_Snow2025-12-12 21:24

I really like Scarlett Johansson in Civil Wae. The one thing that bugs me is how obvious the wig is now. But her look was great

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 21:29

i understand

GutherGlazer2025-12-12 21:26

Different directors and choreography.

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 21:30

yes, that's what makes them unique and cool

kickedoutatone2025-12-12 21:32

Context matters. Natasha was targeting BP here, IIRC, whereas Yelena was in the middle of a fight.

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 21:51

yes, definitely

Shafter1112025-12-12 21:44

They represented different era of media. One where you are expected to look perfect, the other where its ok for a woman to be a bit messy.

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 21:53

exactly that's what makes them special

Derpshiz2025-12-12 21:47

Better or more realistic?

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 21:54

realistic

InS_Deaths2025-12-12 21:47

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Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 21:56

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MirkwoodWanderer12025-12-12 21:48

I prefer natasha, firstly because there's no distracting fake accent, and then I prefer her more confident personality.

Yelena fits the character of a bored depressed/edgy character well but it's not my favourite character type

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 21:59

exactly. i'm old school with Natasha being my favourite of the 2.

blackbutterfree2025-12-12 21:53

Yelena is a better assassin.

Natasha is a better markswoman.

She's also just a poser.

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 22:00

yes, both are posers

blackbutterfree2025-12-12 22:24

Yelena doesn't really pose. It makes her cringe.

Though her exit from Kate Bishop's apartment was very posey.

s173nc3r2025-12-12 22:01

Obviously redhead.

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 22:35

cool

apneax3n0n2025-12-12 22:14

natasha walken to let yelena run.

natasha was sexier but i love yelena more

i cuoldn't livve wittthout hier ruzzian accient .

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 22:36

i love both

BeastieX472025-12-12 22:19

Who cares, I wanna see them both in another movie (yes I know that’s unlikely)

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 22:48

yes. maybe in Secret wars where they could do the deadpool and wolverine Human torch scene where Yelena and Alexi see a mysterious character, then its revealed to be a variant of Natasha where she went evil.

Gadoguz9942025-12-12 22:49

Scarlett hands down, not even a competition really

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 22:55

yes

Vaportrail2025-12-12 22:57

Sorry Florence.
I didnt even remember this part.

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 23:00

what do you remember?

Vaportrail2025-12-12 23:09

Well I remember Civil War way more than Thunderbolts, for starters.

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 23:15

ok.

goblinite22025-12-12 23:41

Yelena actually looks like she is putting effort in to it. My only issue with Scarjo in the Marvel movies was she looked perpetually bored.

tehCharo2025-12-12 23:47

Wouldn't a master assassin and spy be bored most of the time in these fights where they're beating up goons? It'd be like Batman sweating over a couple of thugs robbing a warehouse.

goblinite22025-12-13 00:31

That is probably the No Prize explanation.

fauxregard2025-12-13 00:00

Florence, because she is a good actor as well as being beautiful.

Drasic672025-12-13 00:07

Nat but I must say, damn are they're both gorgeous 😍

Liathano_Fire2025-12-13 00:19

Le sigh

arc070419902025-12-13 02:29

Is that even a question?

Half_Man12025-12-13 04:24

This post feels like a callout to Yelena for not being a poser.

Thatonedudedude2025-12-13 05:19

How you think you look vs how you really look

Jhushx2025-12-13 05:52

Yelena's looks more realistic in how messy the shot is, while Natasha looks like she's farming aura with that perfect superhero pose.

TwinJacks2025-12-13 08:21

Natasha was originally really boring to me. Even as a kid, I rolled my eyes. I just thought "urgh, another over sexualised female character here to be hot and strong but not stronger than the MC. Nobody cares and its cringy " but her characterisation evolved over time, and she became a more conplex and beloved character.. (even tho that Age of Ultron thing was kinda weird.) Yelena starts out complicated, she is a mess of a human being, I don't think her characterisation was the same as Natasha, she wasnt originally presented as a perfect soldier assassin, just a really competent one. She was interesting in the beginning and imo has more characterisation than Natasha. Even tho I am biased cus Natasha came first and is prettier by my preferences, Yelena is more interesting to watch.

_-_-_-Zero-_-_-_2025-12-13 08:54

Yelena as a character is more interesting and Natasha as a Black widow looks more active. My opinion.

EcksFountain1322025-12-13 09:04

Yelene being less confident makes sense though. She hates herself and really doesn't wanna be doing this. Plus Bob is her friend and she doesn't want to actually hurt him.

HaHaYouThoughtWrong2025-12-13 09:31

In these stills specifically, Pugh looks like she's a mexican luchador in drag and Nat looks like she's about to put down her kid's bully

Jealous-Tip-63322025-12-13 09:35

Nat looked more composed while doing it but they were in very different situations so it's fair I guess.

PsychologicalTry40292025-12-13 13:01

Such a poser

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-13 13:23

Yep

Fun-Poet53382025-12-13 15:39

2016, Natasha.

No-Rain74642025-12-13 18:15

2016 hands down

ToughFox44792025-12-13 18:30

Yelena used the stingers more in one movie than Natasha did in the entirety of her mcu screentime

Mickeyjj272025-12-13 18:56

How the hell do you pick 2 totally different scenarios and deduct points for one being messy.

Lucky_Woodpecker_4242025-12-13 19:09

Hmm, the background and color in 2016 makes the shoot look a bit plain in my eyes, while in 2025, there is far more depth and dynamism to it.

Ikariiprince2025-12-13 19:16

Sometimes women aren’t going to look perfectly airbrushed when they’re fighting for their lives

GatorBo692025-12-13 19:23

As great as Scarlett was, Florence honestly embodies Black Widow to a whole new level. That latent accent, her own character arc, everything.

I always found it odd that Scarlett never attempted a subtle Russian accent. Not saying she wasn’t great, she was amazing!!

But her entire family had Russian accents and she didn’t even have a tiny bit of one. Not sure if she, like so many American actors, can’t do accents or what, but Florence is such an amazing Black Widow(although has she officially been given that title, yet?)

Florence is fierce, funny, lonely, sad, a leader, and simply all around amazing!!

ChaoticCaptain1772025-12-14 00:23

This feels unfair because both are in different situations

Upper-Energy-79072025-12-14 00:28

Scarlet Johansson 💯

Visual_Collar_88932025-12-14 00:30

Scarlet Johannsen, by far.

HooyahDangerous2025-12-14 03:51

My favorite was when she dropped down and did the pose she made fun of black widow for doing.

SeaTie87302025-12-14 04:37

Both incredible characters and superb fighters in their own merits that go toe to toe with people twice their size and twice their bodies and they always come on top. Their characters are complex and rich and yet they’re here reduce to : Who looks better doing this? Type of question

AsherthonX2025-12-14 05:56

One of the legacy character I’m perfectly fine with.

I love Florence Puch

J0hnCreed2025-12-14 18:55

Natasha looks cold and in control as should be for an assassin … a real Black Widow

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-14 19:03

Yes. My favourite widow

comehereyoudevillog2025-12-15 22:49

the more i look at this the more i think its lame that her signature weapon is a taser

BodybuilderBulky28972025-12-17 02:45

2016

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