What Do You Want to See From Wilson's Captain America in Avenger's Doomsday?
There has been a lot of speculation regarding who will be on Sam's team and whether or not he will be the leader in the movie or if the leader will be some other hero like Reed or Thor.
Personally, I really want Sam to lean into the mantle and take charge in the films. I pray that they do not continue this storyline of whether he or not he feels he's worthy of the shield or whether he should take the serum. In the comics, Wilson's Cap is pretty known for his grand motivational speeches. I want to see the MCU bring some of that to live action version. He should be making plans, if they fail, making back-up plans. And putting his life on the line to get the mission done. This is the time to show the audience his grit and why he should be successor.
I'm one of the few that liked Brave New World, I just wish they leaned into the wit and battle strategic mind that we often see in his comic iteration more.
What do you guys think?
Personally, I really want Sam to lean into the mantle and take charge in the films. I pray that they do not continue this storyline of whether he or not he feels he's worthy of the shield or whether he should take the serum. In the comics, Wilson's Cap is pretty known for his grand motivational speeches. I want to see the MCU bring some of that to live action version. He should be making plans, if they fail, making back-up plans. And putting his life on the line to get the mission done. This is the time to show the audience his grit and why he should be successor.
I'm one of the few that liked Brave New World, I just wish they leaned into the wit and battle strategic mind that we often see in his comic iteration more.
What do you guys think?
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"I think he's talking to you, dude."
"Am I an Avenger? I thought he was talking to She Hulk."
"I don't think they've ever met. If he wasn't talking to you, who the hell is he talking to?"
"I don't know. Is that tree an Avenger?"
"I think that's just a regular tree."
"Holy hell, that scared me"
Steve's past War will be Sams future war.
He was more of an actual character in Winter Soldier and Civil War.
I do love Mackey in other roles, especially as Jon Doe in Twisted Metal.
Cap 4 is just the Incredible Hulk 2.
So far, Sam has been nothing special because he’s always following his orders, and it makes his character fall flat because he stands for nothing.
I want to see him BREAK THE RULES. But will white america allow it? Probably not.
I also thought it was such a strange decision to make Sam Wilson’s first Cap film based heavily around the first MCU movie that came out almost 20 years ago. It should’ve felt more like a character development for Sam(falcon and winter soldier did a better job of this in my opinion).
If people can accept that just fine, idk why suddenly comicbook super metal that literally absorbs and weaponizes kinetic energy is unbelievable. Just sounds like needless nitpicking.
Otherwise I think he has the Captain America thing down perfectly. Trying to stand with the US government as a role model for civilian and soldier alike, up until standing with the government becomes a bridge too far for his spot-on moral compass.
I JUST WISH HE TOOK THE SERUM. Glad he talks about it several times in the movie as well. It was obviously the wrong call to turn it down when looking at the adversaries he has to deal with.
Cap wasn’t actually holding back Thanos’s strength; remember, this is spiritual journey Thanos and not conqueror Thanos. He wasn’t trying at all in that scene with Cap; he was just intrigued and even impressed at Steve’s willpower and resiliency, but not his physical strength.
Thor wasn’t actually trying to kill Tony in Avengers 1, he knew they weren’t bad guys, they were just in the way of his task.
Wilson catching the lamp post from the **Red Hulk** is egregious. I like Wilson as Captain, but that was ridiculous.
I haven't had a problem with Sam Wilson as Cap and I really like Anthony Mackie. But the movies he's led haven't stuck with audiences and that's what the executives will worry about.
We will find out.
I fucking hate this multiversal shit.
Like “I am a liability” or “I can stop him if I was stronger”…
A confrontation with Hydra-Steve might work.
If he gets supersoldiered and just starts beating everyone down in the last act it contributes to these superhero movies becoming formulaic. Like everyone knows Steve Rodgers, Thor, and Black Panther won’t lose their melees, keeping Sam human adds some stakes.
This sub gushes about Thunderbolts ending but not BNW for a reason. He needs better writing.
Or, he needs to suffer consequences for not taking it *and then still stand by the decision not to take it*.
Imagine how fucking hard, how fucking "holy shit, this is the right man for the job" if after losing an arm (and fostering an introduction to Misty Knight, and further cementing Sam Wilson's role as a veteran who works with vets) he stood by his decision not to take the serum.
Hell, Giving Sam a prostethic leg would add another layer of funny interaction between Sam and Bucky.
Its easy to make the "right" choice, when there are no downstream consequences.
Im sorry I love Hawkeye. I love renner. Outside of very specific circumstances Hawkeye is Hawkeye. A background character
Sam can’t be Captain America as a human vs the threats that are coming.
Edit: sure you got iron man was so far more advanced than anybody else in the tech region. Hell maybe I’m overthinking it and its comic book movies I enjoy. I’m a little drunk.
Youve missed *the entire point* of Captain American if you think the serum makes the man.
The problem is that the "right " choice being not taking the serum doesn't even make sense.
Both Sam's old best friend and his new best friend are super soldiers. As are half the people on the Avengers. Sam having some weird ideological bent against taking the serum is completely out of nowhere and feels like manufactured conflict for the sake of it.
If Sam lost a limb because he wasn't a super soldier it wouldn't be a moment of "oh wow he's really a man of his principles." All it would show is that his "principles" were dumb and he should've just taken the damn serum.
"There has never been another Steve Rodgers"
You seem to have missed the whole point about power.
> If Sam lost a limb because he wasn't a super soldier it wouldn't be a moment of "oh wow he's really a man of his principles."
It would be if he didnt stop fighting.
"I can do this all day".
/s
Nobody bothers other unpowered characters to get serum and Sam is capable of a lot of things even Steve could not do.
No serum.
That no matter the odds, he will be able to push his team to their best against Doom and use his tactical knowledge.
There's really nothing to hope for, and hasn't been in a while
And then Captain America gets beaten up in a 1-on-1 by the absolute GOAT Cyclops
I also want him to get cut off while saying "Avengers Assemble" by Cyclops shouting "to me, my X-men"
\[This post was made by the Cyclops Was Right appreciation gang\]
If not, he needs to get the serum. It’s ridiculous for him not to have it.
I had no issue with him receiving the shield. I just don’t know why he tossed aside the identity he made for himself, in order to take up someone else’s name.
Well, one reason, but no one admits it.
He’s definitely staying, so I’d just want him to have cool scenes. It’s hard to believe Mackie is still up for this role knowing how much they keep messing things up.
In Cap 1-3, Steve sacrificed something, 1 = his own life to save the US. 2 = the entire organization he worked for to expose Hydra. 3 = his relationship with his team to stop 5 new winter soldiers and to protect his best friend.
So far in TFaTWS and Brave New World, we haven't seen him actually sacrifice anything. Sam needs and **deserves** better writing because they've done him so dirty. So far, both of his stories have been about whether or not he deserves the mantle of Captain America, living in the shadow of Steve's legacy, and his identity as a black American representing the stars and stripes. Although I think all of that is important to touch on, he really needs a story and a future that ignores all of that baggage and let's him move forward as a leader. Let those elements be part of his character and not part of the story anymore.
For example, if the situation with the X-Men starts in conflict, Sam would try to stop the fight and make them understand that they aren't the enemy. I also think they'd explain why he doesn't agree with the New Avengers, given that since they work directly with the government and with Valentina, they don't have the same freedom.
Although I don't think this will become the central focus of the character; it will probably just be a comment like, "Is Valentina or the government aware of your actions?" "No." "Then welcome to the team."
And finally, I hope we get more scenes like the one on Celestial Island, taking advantage of the aerial aspect with Sam and the shield, as well as the vibranium technology.
I don't think they'll diminish him or say he "doesn't deserve to be captain." The Russo brothers were the ones who gave him the badge, and they'll probably try to prove they weren't wrong about him.
I don't know if he gets the serum in the comics, but if not then he's time to retire him as the 'leader', bring back Steve or give Sam a jab of super soldier sauce.
He has no powers!
i'm hoping for
Captain America
Black Panther
Doctor Strange
Shang-Chi
She-Hulk
Captain Marvel
but i'll also accept the far more likely...
Captain America
Ant-Man
Black Panther
Bruce Banner
Shang-Chi
Thor
Ms.Marvel
Captain Marvel