The most fun I've had from Marvel in a while.

As of writing this, Im in the middle of watching Iromheart and I actually feel invested. After watching DD Born Again, Thunderbolts and F4, it really feels like Marvel has finally pulled me back in. Maybe more so. I never cared for the Avengers as a group, even though their movies were solid. I was always more of a fan of other properties that Marvel had to offer. So with these projects being as good as they are, I cant help but smile hard.

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Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-10 07:44

Damn yea

Additional_Ice_3582025-12-10 09:11

Hard agree. Only Ironheart didn't really work for me personally. But DD, Thunderbolts and Fantastic 4 were all top tier for me. Excited to see them continue the momentum.

Rykor812025-12-10 13:25

Agree - I’m all for imperfect characters, but Riri didn’t seem to grow through her series - just continued to make bad decisions. A lot of cool elements and world building - but for what? It just seems like they don’t know what they want to do with her.

Additional_Ice_3582025-12-10 13:34

Exactly, compare it to a show like Daredevil, Loki, Moon Knight, Hawkeye and John Walker. They all had these character arcs and you see the growth from beginning to end. It still seems like she's in square one and that's a necessity for a legacy character.

Savitar1232025-12-13 10:49

Wow this is a dumb post

Plusmax782025-12-10 14:10

I agree 100%.

The only way I see this working is if they are actually setting her up to be the Iron Lad-equivalent for the MCU Young Avengers. But by itself I just got angry at how her story progressed even before she >!made that deal with Mephisto!< in the finale

JustDay17882025-12-10 15:01

Some characters dont grow at all

Thats also a type of character arc in writing too e.g... the Legally blonde movie is a great example of this Elle doesnt change as much as she impacts and changes those around her

Riri is more in that boat
Her personality leads her down a specific path in the end

BroeknRecrds2025-12-10 15:25

I think that's kind of the point, they sort of seem to be setting her up as an antihero/villain

ubutterscotchpine2025-12-11 16:10

I never finished Ironheart. I liked Riri in Black Panther and I really wish the show would’ve pulled me in, but I just couldn’t get into it.

Additional_Ice_3582025-12-11 16:20

Agreed, I'd personally put marvel zombies in the fourth slot. What a fun show and hope there's a second season.

sm_8922025-12-10 10:32

Bro why Reddit is suddenly hating f4 movie just cuz it has less views on Disney plus like wtf

FreeStall422025-12-10 10:35

It's fun to make fun of F4 failing every time they try to force it on audiences

TheAgmis2025-12-10 14:16

Cause Reddit is a negative cesspool echo chamber. They care insanely predictable

Tube_Warmer2025-12-10 15:55

That is an outright lie. Reddit is shocking for shills and bots and pushing positivity for the most outrageous dogshit. Something has to be really god awful to break through that crap shield.

Fantastic Four was meh. Thats the facts. Nothing offensive about it, but nothing stand out either. If theres hate, its because people are sick of being told its amazing.

TheAgmis2025-12-10 16:04

You have an insecure opinion that’s why you’re crashing out. “Everything is a shill and bot for pushing stuff I don’t like!!!!!!”

Thankfully your views of the movie are YOUR SUBJECTIVE OPINION lmao. You’re entitled to it but it sounds like not even you believe it.

CaptHayfever2025-12-10 17:56

They're a 14-day-old troll account; I wouldn't take them seriously.

TheAgmis2025-12-10 19:53

It’s just a bot account

CaptHayfever2025-12-10 21:31

Or a burner, but yeah. Same overall (lack of) worth.

neon_spacebeam2025-12-11 01:38

Damn, profile age should be there right next to names at all times

DidgeridoOoriginal2025-12-10 16:41

I heard someone speculate that when a movie comes out in theaters and is well received, but then comes out on streaming and all of a sudden there are a flood of negative reviews, its most likely because those viewers were on their phone. Idk if it’s true but it’s not hard to believe.

CaptHayfever2025-12-10 17:57

Because people who want Marvel/Disney to fail for political reasons keep brigading us.

TheDookwanJones2025-12-11 03:48

Because it wasn’t good

CinnaSol2025-12-11 04:45

See, I thought it was okay. The aesthetics were cool, the world of 828 was cool, but the story was pretty weak since it had been done before. I just thought Thunderbolts and brave new world were way better IMO

EddieBlizario2025-12-10 10:38

LOL as a Marvel comics fan for 30 years it’s not that it’s fun..
It’s just the 70s chic aesthetic,
Was the main thing that worked for me… the actors were fine ..
Just felt rushed

Ragnarok_6192025-12-10 12:04

Feels like a concentrated PR fix up after the Nielsen ratings revelation. We all know the ground reality of all releases of 2025.

AnOnlineHandle2025-12-11 09:54

The title definitely reads like "How do you do fellow kids?" to me, from a fairly new account as well. Their post history doesn't suggest fake shill account though.

Ragnarok_6192025-12-11 10:25

Their post history does feel like concentrated PR.

AnOnlineHandle2025-12-11 10:30

It's possible but generally the pattern I've seen is the account discussing 2 topics before making their big shill post (usually a pop culture topic and weird veers into something political and awful such as defending Russia or Israel from criticism).

Ragnarok_6192025-12-11 10:46

Oh yeah, that tracks

Pretend-Bat-45582025-12-10 12:07

Agreed. This year for marvel was a banger. Although it's not much appreciated, the projects were pretty solid ngl

luvu3330002025-12-12 06:43

If it all did come in 23 or even 24 it'd have made so much more... I can't pinpoint where they fumbled while all got back on feet after the strike and covid

Pretend-Bat-45582025-12-12 14:34

I think we all can agree with this

Tudor_Cinema_Club2025-12-10 14:24

Ironheart was so mid. I really had high hopes for it but the connection to stark just wasn't there. I get that they were trying to establish a new character but in all honesty when a character is derived from another, there has to be some connection and call back.

For example, both rhi rhi and Tony were into muscle cars. I thought that was an obvious shared inspiration for suit design but nope. Completely separate. She made her suit look like a cheap gundam toy knock off.

Also Tony is barely mentioned. I thought she was going to have some adoration for Tony like a poster or a book by him or something that she was inspired by to create her armour but again nope.

It could've been great, but it was just ok.

Leprechaun732025-12-10 14:59

Not only was Tony barely mentioned, but he was only mentioned as someone who got to where he was simply because he had money. The whole felt off and very odd.

Free_Dome_Lover2025-12-10 15:37

I see Disney writers still can't help themselves.. Sad

AnOnlineHandle2025-12-11 09:55

I thought the show was bad (gave up in episode 2) but that's not what she said.

She was saying other people can't do all that without the money, which is true, which is why she was tempted into joining a criminal group for easy money, and likely was going to pay pretty hard for that I'm guessing.

N8CCRG2025-12-10 14:30

I'd add Agatha All Along as the leadup to the banger year. That's still the number 1 TV project in my book.

AsterArtworks2025-12-10 14:57

Agatha all along was better than Daredevil by a long shot. White guys just love to self insert so much it ranks high for them.

0LoveAnonymous02025-12-10 16:02

>Agatha all along was better than Daredevil

And had better viewership than DD

neon_spacebeam2025-12-11 01:37

I mean, no need to get hateful, and by a long shot seems hurtful. I do admit to hearing people say they still prefer the Netflix era more and that is definitely a sign that Disney+ just barely prevented themselves from dropping the ball. Like I KNOW Disney has more in the bank for this shit than Netflix.

AsterArtworks2025-12-11 03:07

We live in a patriarchy, hurtful is all it ever could be in a male centric society. And I have no issue calling out the double standard men seem to have especially in the superhero genre.

pigeonwiggle2025-12-11 12:04

yeah, the only solution to a murder is a counter-murder. ...wait.

justafanboy10102025-12-11 15:25

The irony in this comment is insane lol

Why are we even comparing Agatha to Daredevil? They are vastly different

BroeknRecrds2025-12-11 00:52

I skipped Agatha All Along originally, finally got around to it a couple months ago, and I'm sad I waited so long. Top 3 MCU D+ show easily, might even be #1 for me

pigeonwiggle2025-12-11 12:03

Daredevil's been my favourite this year, but Agatha was my favourite from last year.

it really hurts to hear the narrative that Marvel wants to scale back it's tv series in order to prioritize it's films.

like... dude, no. give me 8 projects a year again please... fuck.

justafanboy10102025-12-11 15:24

Agatha was 2024

Rising-Jay2025-12-10 14:31

Yeah, I enjoyed 3 of these myself! Think i got more out of Ironheart then most folks, never really got annoyed haha

Antrikshy2025-12-11 01:32

Ironheart is absolutely top tier. One of my favorite shows that I really want to see continue.

CommunityDragon1842025-12-10 14:44

Top 3 all MCU <3

AsterArtworks2025-12-10 14:55

I’ve liked nearly everything since endgame. I don’t agree with the narrative of things suck post endgame whatsoever, especially with projects as strong as Thunderbolts.

GuaridaDeGoro0992025-12-10 18:37

"Thunderbolts" esos no merecen ser llamados ni si quiera teen titans

Dandan0012012025-12-10 19:31

Wakanda something something?

Silent_Bystander19302025-12-10 19:32

Iron heart could’ve work if executed correctly like idk not have her easily build iron man suit so easily like have concept having trouble with power source which was solved after wakanda forever but still have the suit be like how Tony made his first in a cave and try to show more of Riri brilliance threw action like having build other gadgets or programming

Internal-Edge31202025-12-12 09:51

You miss the entire aspect of RiRi

She exceeds Tony by a long shot hence shes able to build suits faster

Silent_Bystander19302025-12-12 14:20

Which is like every other top intelligent in marvel in pretty sure Peter Parker moon girl and even dr doom who had a run as the infamous iron man can all do the same what Riri should’ve been like was the tinkerer from ps4 miles morales Spider-Man game except going in the good path

Also Riri shouldn’t have to prove to be better then Tony and be her character why do think most loves miles morales cause he’s not trying to be another generic Peter Parker Spider-Man and Ms Marvel like then name and predecessor but doesn’t copy everything about her but tries to make good by the name in her way

Internal-Edge31202025-12-12 18:49

Riri never was trying to be generic. She and Tony had a great mentor/mentee relationship because Tony knew that she was a better successor if he was to ever hand the mantle off; simply off of the fact that she was so young and building suits that exceeded his. It was never like she wanted to be the next Iron Man, just wanted to build suits like him because she can.

Silent_Bystander19302025-12-12 22:16

Ok but it didn’t show that did it just showed she was better without showing how just cause she built a suit after him I mean if it was like in the comic where Tony sent a halo gram of himself or an ai of him mentoring and see her like miles being her own with her own ideas and creative solutions ok and yes she generic did she made a new element for the power suit or replicate it nope or discover a new way for the suit or advance AI assist like Jarvis

RollingTake2025-12-10 21:08

I've just watched Fantastic 4 for the first time and thought it was fine, but nothing really special. Maybe it was too hyped.

CanadianGoku332025-12-11 00:51

I was with you till Iron Heart

Savitar1232025-12-13 10:53

Imagine being this miserable

CanadianGoku332025-12-13 14:40

Lol how does disliking a show make someone miserable? What do you just demand everyone has the same taste and agrees with you on everything?

Imagine being this narcissistic.

Savitar1232025-12-13 14:43

Nice proving my point weirdo

Running2vermin2025-12-11 02:55

"Duck, duck, duck, goose." But no, in all seriousness, this has been a good run for marvel. The quality of output has been good lately. Even brave new world feels like a step up from DSMOM and love and thunder.

Ambivalo2025-12-11 03:24

Agree with this post, although I would say Ironheart is on the lower end of the enjoyment spectrum.

I'm also always glad to see someone who enjoys Fantastic Four: First Steps. It's disheartening to see many people shit on it. Worse though, is how aggressive some of its detractors can be. It's perfectly fine to dislike the film or find it boring---no one is required to like the film and it's not wrong to do so---but some of the haters accuse you of being stupid, a shill or sheep if you enjoy it.

ampersands-guitars2025-12-11 03:40

I was never an F4 person, hadn't been much into Marvel in recent years, and absolutely loved this movie. I thought it was really well cast, had gorgeous production design, and I *loveddddd* the space chase sequence in the middle of the film.

FilmBastards2025-12-11 04:52

“Agreed.
What surprised you the most—
the tone, the cast chemistry, or the fact that Marvel finally remembered color grading?”

rekzkarz2025-12-11 08:57

Well ... Dont mean to quibble, but Deadpool Wolverine had so much more punch.

FF4 fan, so I was put back a little at the 'all this stuff already happened ' style of it, really missed an opportunity to parody Incredibles (which is a tribute to superhero movies)...

spidey-dust2025-12-11 10:44

Thunderbolts still has me in a chokehold

pigeonwiggle2025-12-11 12:06

most fun in awhile yes - bc 2024 was a fucking drought. Echo dunked in a one-day drop, then we had to wait 5 months for Deadpool to be like "remember old blade and elektra?" just to wait another 6 months for Agatha to FINALLY give us something of substance.

Savitar1232025-12-13 10:53

Wow just wrong

pigeonwiggle2025-12-13 18:31

oh? i'm sorry, did my ignorance of What If...? Season 3 piss you off or something?

are you a bot? why did you just say "wrong" without offering an Alternative? typically that's what human people do.

Savitar1232025-12-13 18:53

What you said was wrong, I don't need to say anything other than that

BALIHU872025-12-11 13:12

Ironheart was better than expected!! Well done.

FF was great but personally not to the top

Daredevil i still have to watch

Thunderbolts is my Personal favorit now.
Belongs may even in the Top 10 of all MCU Stuff. Should break the Box Office way way Higher

GranolaCola2025-12-11 18:23

Thunderbolts reminded my why I got into these movies in the first place

NetSc0pe2025-12-11 20:02

F4 was the first movie in a really long time that actually had me watching fully focused without doing other stuff in the meantime

Tippydaug2025-12-12 03:19

Swap Ironheart for Agatha All Along and I'd fully agree! F4 was my favorite superhero movie in general for quite some time and I'm really sad I didn't see it in theaters (I watched it last night for the first time lol)

EcksFountain1322025-12-12 08:54

Hard agree. Loved Thunderbolts but didn't have the oppurtunity to see it in theaters. Saw F4 in a theater though and glad I did. Both were great. Both were just great fun and sweet stories about family.

SwagMoney_420__2025-12-12 23:49

outside of ironheat I totally agree.

yungstark222025-12-13 12:52

I must be the only person that thought F4 wasn’t that great. it had a few moments and all but I guess because we have already had a few movies that didn’t really deliver. Nothing wrong with the cast, they did good. will say that was the best Wonder Woman we have seen (I love me some jessica alba too lol) didn’t realize she was so powerful.
Thunderbolts I had to do rewatch (fell asleep the first few tries lol) but it was actually a good movie. Glad a rewatched it.
Still haven’t seen iron heart

Suspicious_Place80702025-12-13 13:39

I haven't watched dd born again or ironheart, but Thunderbolts and First Steps were pretty good

Silent_Bystander19302026-01-01 20:39

For either war machine jame Rhodes or iron heart Riri should Marcy Pearson but included as an antagonist in either or both as an obstacle for Tony Legacy. For those who don’t know who she first appeared in Iron Man issue #217 A former ally of Tony Stark and lover of James Rhodes, she tried to frame him for murder.