Using most appereances as a metric, Wong, Valentina Allegra de Fontaine and Daredevil are the main characters of the Multiverse Saga

Wong, Valentina Allegra de Fontaine and Daredevil, are in four canon projects (not counting What If...?, YFNSM, or Marvel Zombies) in the Multiverse Saga (a show is one project).

Wong is in:

* Shang-Chi And The Legend Of The Ten Rings
* Spider-Man: No Way Home
* Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness
* She-Hulk: Attorney At Law

Val appears in:

* The Falcon And The Winter Soldier
* Black Widow
* Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
* Thunderbolts\*

Daredevil is in:

* Spider-Man: No Way Home
* She-Hulk: Attorney At Law
* Echo
* Daredevil: Born Again

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Caciulacdlac2025-12-08 09:25

So Wong and Daredevil will have 5 appearances by next year (in Doomsday and Born Again S2)

marvelcomics222025-12-08 09:26

Wong isn't confirmed for Doomsday, and a television show kind of counts as one project.

Caciulacdlac2025-12-08 09:27

Confirmed or not, he will appear in Doomsday.

eagc72025-12-08 09:25

Wong will be the one to defeat Doom to solidify his place as the lead of the saga

CodenameJD2025-12-08 17:27

Yes!! Wong!

wholesomescott2025-12-09 12:45

Wongers!

red-lioness0072025-12-10 07:54

HISHE Reference!

LookOutItsLiuBei2025-12-08 18:02

With Madisynn getting in the final attack because even Dr Doom couldn't predict her.

SoonToBeDeletified2025-12-08 18:46

Because she wasn’t where he would think.

Antrikshy2025-12-09 07:23

She'll bring Mephisto to help after all the heroes have lost.

ExultantSandwich2025-12-09 20:34

They met at a bar and had Apple-Tinis which is very *Sex and the City* coded

jmoney7772025-12-08 09:47

The new big three: Wong, Val, and Daredevil

MatthiasKrios2025-12-08 09:51

I am totally down for making Daredevil the centerpiece of the MCU.

D0CTOR_Wh0m2025-12-08 12:04

Could have worked really well worked if instead of working up to Secret Wars the last few phases had been working up to an adaptation of Devil’s Reign that affects everyone not just the vigilantes in Born Again. Who needs Kang and even Doom when you got Wilson Fisk and who better to be the Iron Man leading the resistance than Matthew Murdock?

Aiyon2025-12-09 04:03

I still think Phase 4 should have been street level and built up to Fisk

mysightisurs932025-12-09 16:02

Man, that would be so great seeing the possibilities of Peter and Matt meeting again but without Matt's memories of Peter.

DavidBHimself2025-12-08 14:45

Fun fact: Daredevil is the character with the most screen time of the entire MCU.

Genarthos2025-12-08 20:45

That should still be Coulson, right?

DavidBHimself2025-12-09 01:49

It should, but I thought that Agents of SHIELD was not technically part of the MCU.

Genarthos2025-12-09 06:57

Technically it is the show with the most references to the movies and the most recurring MCU characters (Fury, Hill, Sitwell, Agent Carter, Howling Commandos, Lady Sif, Dr. List, Malick...). It just didn't get referenced by new stuff. But that's like Daredevil until a few years ago.

SkekJay2025-12-09 09:18

And Quake might technically have more screen time as Clark Gregg has the most MCU credits with Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Thor, Avengers and every episode of Agents of Shield, >!he only plays true Coulson for five season, season six he plays Sarge and season 7 he's an LMD of himself!<

DavidBHimself2025-12-09 13:10

I know, I watched the show, but all these references are one-way. What happened on the show has never been referenced in any movie or anything.

mrbaryonyx2025-12-08 19:34

Rereading comics from the early 2000s and lowkey he's the best character.

Like if you look at Comic Book Herald its basically just "read these Avengers and X-Men comics in order to understand all the most important events in Marvel during this time period, or, just, like, read Daredevil and just Daredevil"

tiredwolfi2025-12-08 20:42

Thanks to Charlie Cox, Daredevil is my favorite Marvel character ever.

No_Imagination_24902025-12-08 10:22

My theory was that with all his apperances and fan-favourite status, Wong was being set up to be killed off by Kang in order to show stakes, like with Coulson in the first Avengers movie. Dunno if that still might be the case now that Kang isn't the villain.

AJDx142025-12-08 16:17

Might be just to show Doom is good at magic. He’ll beat Wong and the movie will imply that makes him the strongest sorcerer (other than the actual strongest who will beat Doom at magic in the following movie, Dr Strange).

Zaveno2025-12-08 20:17

Now that Doctor Strange is at peace with Wong being the Sorcerer Supreme, the only way they're going to make him the SS is by killing off Wong

ElisaShiny242025-12-08 13:24

Val kinda is the Nick Fury of this era, only with more moral ambiguity and less heroic intentions. By that I mean like Nick in Phase 1, for this phase Val was the one going around recruiting the heroes who eventually wound up becoming the New Avengers 😅

I remember Julia saying she knew the Thunderbolts would be the New Avengers, so I think that was always their plan for her

Theasiuser992025-12-08 14:54

I would say Yelena:

\- Second main character in Black Widow

\- Big protagonism in the season finale of Hawkeye (not just a brief cameo)

\- Main character in Thunderbolts

She had so much screentime and quality time.

vivianvisionsburner2025-12-08 18:13

> Using most appearances as a metric

Therefore not Yelena. This argument would be applicable on literally any other thread

Poku1152025-12-08 19:30

And how much of that screentime did the average audience witness

stonespiral2025-12-08 22:29

well that's not the metric here so I'm not sure how that's relevant to this discussion.

marvelcomics222025-12-09 10:08

When I first thought about this post, I actually thought that it was Yelena tied with Bucky for most appearances, and then I looked into it a bit, and found those three.

Responsible_Egg75192025-12-08 15:06

I really hate Val but at the same time she’s so fun to watch. Julia does a great job in the role

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Mathy162025-12-08 16:00

This was just for movies in the Multiverse Saga, so post-Endgame. Otherwise you'd have characters like Thor who has appeared in more than 8 projects

EarthboundMan52025-12-08 16:26

My long running theory about Val is that she's been in cahoots with Doom this whole time.

IndependentBit97452025-12-08 16:55

At this point they should call it the Wong Cinematic Universe

Notoriously_So2025-12-08 17:16

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OG_Williker2025-12-08 17:21

I felt like Wong was showing up way more often than necessary and this validates it for me. I have no clue why that side character got as much focus as he did. Sure it makes sense for him to show up in Shang chi but she hulk? (And the reverse goes for abomination).

railroad92025-12-08 17:33

Wong is the main character, full-stop ;-)

KingotWinterCarnival2025-12-08 18:01

I want more Wong saving the day and then going home to Maddisynn.

Waste_Positive23992025-12-08 18:34

Marvel needs to have some crossover between their properties to show that all are connected. BUT, they can't afford to have the Big Names like Robert Downey Jr. do it, or it'd blow up the budgets. So they use (arguably) less important characters played by actors who aren't paid as much.

willstr12025-12-08 19:31

As epic as the reveal was in Winter Soldier I think Marvel made a pretty big mistake killing off SHIELD as an organization that early in the franchise. Having an organization like that made it easy to have those connecting threads made up of cheaper actors (I love Clark Gregg but he was definitely cheaper than RDJ or SLJ) and even switching up the threads and they can just introduce themselves as part of the organization.

They have tried setting up similar organizations (SWORD, Damage Control, etc) but they never panned out the way SHIELD did because the organizations were too narrowly focused to make sense across the different "genres" of heros.

Fit_Scientist_48102025-12-08 19:10

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_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_2025-12-08 19:58

So Stan Lee and Nick Fury were the main characters of the Infinity Saga?

Zantoo2025-12-08 21:16

Wasn't Wong also in Infinity War?

eagc72025-12-08 21:35

Not part of the Multiverse Saga

Teganfff2025-12-08 22:48

I mean this feels accurate anyway! They’ve been the most consistent common threads.

ronyg12025-12-09 00:02

What about screen time?

euphoriapotion2025-12-09 00:31

counting the episodes as main characters, Loki's in 12 episodes.

marvelcomics222025-12-09 10:12

When it comes to television, especially in this context, an 'appearance' has a murky definition. A television show is one project, does that mean that most of the AoS cast is in one project or 136 projects?

euphoriapotion2025-12-09 13:16

It means that they have 136 appearances as the character

Soulwarfare422025-12-09 12:31

Wong was definitely set up to be killed in the Avenger films. They want to have Strange return as Sorcerer Supreme and they can't have that when Wong is currently the Sorcerer Supreme.

Val was clearly created to be a darker Nick Fury-esque character. Samuel L Jackson once said that the actress jokingly said that they are going to fight. This could happen in the Avengers film but very possible for Black Panther 3 as well which Samuel clearly wants to be in as well.

Daredevil ain't going to be in Avengers but he is clearly being set up on the TV/Streaming show side of things. Would love for a Spider-Man team up in Spider-Man 5!

HandspeedJones2025-12-09 18:39

I feel like Wong is the MVP of the multiversal saga. He's going to play a big role in beating DOOM.

TorontoDavid2025-12-09 18:47

I’m ok with that.

Curiouso_Giorgio2025-12-10 04:03

I'd go with time on screen, (and to balance out the extended length of TV shows,) as a percentage of the total run time of a production.