Dr. Strange 1 and 2 insight

Something I just realized about Dr. Strange 1 and 2. I’m not sure if this is meant to be a consistent Dr. Strange thing and the third will follow suit, or maybe just similarities between the stories.

Dr. Strange 1. “Don’t mess with the space time continuum”, and how does Dr. Strange win? Messing with the space time continuum.

Dr. Strange 2. “The Darkhold corrupts/extracts a heavy toll”. How does he win, using the Darkhold.

There are a lot more elements to the stories, but this is a big part of it.

Maybe I’m the last one to realize this too. I just thought it was an interesting similarity and maybe it could be an idea to where Dr. Strange 3 will go, but also, what is the endgame with it? Will they be able to finally have the bill come due for Strange or will the rules continue to not apply to him?

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Jaideco2025-12-07 12:32

Infinity War… “At all costs, we mustn’t let Thanos get the time stone!!!

How do they win (in the next film)? Strange gave him the Time Stone in return for sparing Tony’s life.

Breaking the rules is kind of Dr Strange’s thing…

BaronZhiro2025-12-08 02:39

And not only that, but we mustn’t let Stark die now so he can die later.

chrisl1822025-12-07 12:44

Hhmmm, that's strange.

MatthiasKrios2025-12-07 13:07

Perhaps. But who am I to judge?

Edboy7962025-12-07 12:54

You think there's a version of Dr Strange that accidentally got himself in a time loop?

Aromatic-Cupcake48022025-12-07 14:06

Just like Wanda said, he breaks the rules and he’s still the hero. Strange was named as the greatest threat to the multiverse, I’m excited to see how that plays out in the Avengers films. Could stopping Doom result in him siding with Doom

jessybear23442025-12-11 11:40

From the moment I saw Elizabeth Olsen deliver that line in the trailer I loved it. The way she says it just has the perfect amount of “crazy” in her voice. Specifically the “that doesn’t seem fair” part.

Eric-HipHopple2025-12-07 15:14

There is a bit of contradiction, or self-undermining some of the themes of the characters the movies try to establish. That is, a theme of the first is that in Strange’s world pre accident, he confidently masters everything he sets out to do. Spinal surgery, classical piano, obscure music trivia, etc. - doesn’t matter, he’s perfect at it, no sweat. In fact, he’s such a master of all these skills, he can operate outside the usual rules that confine most people working in those areas. He can take risks and bend the rules in ways no one else can (or should).

Then he has his accident and eventually makes his way to Kamar-Taj and meets the Ancient One. Here he learns that there are whole universes of knowledge and secrets he has had no awareness of, and in trying to mater them he is, well for about 20 minutes of screen time, an inexperienced novice grasping at straws. Eventually, he becomes a master of the mystical arts as well and confronts his ego and overconfidence, again being tempted to go beyond the rules because he believes he is so good at what he does the rules (established to protect sorcerers from themselves) don’t apply to him.

This sequence of themes appears to set up a moral or lesson from the movie - he should realize that whether in magic or the bounds of the real world, a little humility can go a long way to making him a more complete (and thus happier) person. But Strange goes ahead and breaks the rules again and … saves the day. So the actual lesson is… He. Is. That. Good. And screw your rules and humility, your protagonist is kind of a douchebag but at least you’re all still alive, so let him do his thing.

I don’t know whether that’s intentional or just incomplete screenwriting.

Long_Situation_50202025-12-07 15:35

One of the things about Strange that the Ancient One appreciated was that "he knows when to break the rules." He did the right thing with rewinding time, giving the gem to Thanos, and dream walking.

Trauma_Hawks2025-12-07 19:45

We see this in the very first scene he's in in DS1. His colleagues where following the rules and algorithms and would've let that guy die in the ER. But Dr. Strange had a hunch and followed his gut. Came up against "you can't do that" and did incredibly risky surgery. If he failed that day, he would've gotten a serious disciplinary action against him, if not getting his license pulled. But it worked. Just like Dormammu, just like the Time Stone, and just like the Darkhold.

Dude *learned* magic. His real super power is dumb luck.

Long_Situation_50202025-12-07 20:04

Dumb luck and an epic level of arrogance in his knowledge/skills.

aharedd12025-12-07 18:07

I’m z

high_everyone2025-12-07 18:39

I’m wondering if we’ll even get to see a third Doctor Strange film.

I can’t help but wonder if Strange will show up in Doomsday during the climax, and if so, we may get the conclusion of where he’s been.

CaptHayfever2025-12-07 21:27

The 2nd one grossed nearly a billion dollars; I'm sure there will be a 3rd.

high_everyone2025-12-07 23:31

I want there to be one and I know there were rumors of one... Like if he's not in Doomsday, the third one should be before SW or like inbetween a parts 1 and 2 that would never happen. :|

deemoorah2025-12-08 05:22

It's spelled out in the last scene of Ancient One in Dr Strange 1. She said Mordo needs his flexibility while Strange needs his sternness(the later I'm not sure about, I'm just paraphrasing) and sorcerers never follow normal human's rules, they live to defend earth/dimension from mystical threat by any means necessary. It's been shown that Ancient One's methods are in the grey spectrum of normal human's morality while she thinks it's necessary for the greater good. The next example is Mordo, he's killed people before that's why he's frustrated when Strange tried so hard to not kill any of the zealots. Wong had been shown over and over again to broke rules when he likes it(balling out Abomination from the high security prison). So at the end of the day, for them sorcerers, they count on their flexibility to solve mystic problems and it's common in their society, or magic users in general

Agitated_Ad75762025-12-08 07:44

Reminds me of X-men Last Stand where Xavier is lecturing: "This body is brain dead, would it be ethical to transfer someone else's mind into it?"

Then he does just that at the end of the movie when he's about to die. Then it's retconned into being his identical twin (which doesn't explain the bald head which was due to the battle with Apocalypse, but whatever).