Thunderbolts

Currently on a mega binge of watching all things related to Marvel(MCU or not), and I'm not much a movie person. Decided to give Thunderbolts and I actually found myself enjoying it much more than I initially expected. Honestly would like to see them together on screen more! The banter and character dynamics were pretty great imo! Truthfully laughed so much

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AwarenessOk77482025-12-07 10:31

The movie is good, but some of the team members (Bucky and Ghost) are unnecessary and their struggle with their fears is not shown.

marcusnelson2025-12-07 10:59

Agreed. It was much better than I had prepared myself for — I’ve actually gone back and watched in a few times now. Florence Pugh was an excellent lead here and I never expected her character to be any more than a black widow side journey.

linecookdaddy2025-12-07 19:19

She's going to be the heart and emotional core of the MCU going forward.

AwarenessOk77482025-12-07 11:19

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Any-Transition952025-12-07 12:33

Yea, that's the one underdeveloped area of the movie for me. At least Bucky had FatWS to fall back on when discussing his character's journey, Ghost only has her cool action scenes and nothing else.

mildly_Agressive2025-12-07 13:12

Bucky has so much content showing his struggle, the show and Cap 2,3,4 so... The only ones underdeveloped is Ghost and Task master iykyk

AwarenessOk77482025-12-07 14:23

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CaptHayfever2025-12-07 17:44

I know we have a lot of non-Americans here, so to clarify: Bucky was not a Senator (who are elected by an entire state), he was a House representative (who are elected by only a single district).
A couple things clarify that in the film: He's addressed as "Congressman Barnes" rather than "Senator Barnes", he mentions that his constituency is in Brooklyn, not New York as a whole, & (despite not being on the relevant committee) he's involved in an impeachment hearing, which has to originate in the House.

AwarenessOk77482025-12-07 17:54

He still needs to develop somehow in this film and be a tangible character. At this rate, he could just be a House representative who offered advice to the team (without actually becoming a member) and that's it.

TheJack0fDiamonds2025-12-07 12:13

It’s one of MCU’s finest. And it sucks that It could’ve had more heart too. But they decided to kill off the one character that’s probably the most deserving of the idea of the thunderbolts - redemption and a second chance considering her history for stakes. When the true stakes is the fact that these bunch of explosives are put together in an oven yet expected not to blow each other up.

People will have alot of opinions on Antonia getting killed off unceremoniously but it affected many things - the point of her inclusion, Ghost being reduced in prominence due to the subplot they both are meant to share, a funny gag (that she loses her memories at times and attacks John while the others try to break it up) and the potential of a great addition not just to the story on hand but moving forward (she really could’ve been Red Widow while the real Taskmaster comes in anytime)

I used to think Marvel wont waste characters but this goes into the list of dumb decisions they make, alongside killing off Pietro in Age Of Ultron.

flyingMonkeyDe2025-12-07 12:57

I totally agree... but pietro was truly a sacrifice that had to be done. Loved his character but I get why they killed him

TheJack0fDiamonds2025-12-07 13:20

I hear you on Pietro and I would’ve prolly be onboard if it weren’t for how (speedster and bullets) and that its thee Pietro Maximoff aka Quicksilver. Like the fact that Wanda’s been running around without her twin is insane in itself.

My issue is how uninspired it is. They did stakes in Civil War with Rhodey much much better.

flyingMonkeyDe2025-12-07 14:08

True..honestly

CharacterActor2025-12-07 14:22

Killing Pietro.

From now on, a little more at stake.

dominion10802025-12-07 14:14

I agree with most, except about Taskmaster. Maybe if they hadn’t called her that, I’d feel different. But she wasn’t Taskmaster, and I’m pretty sure they’ve heard that a million times since that mediocre to shit Black Widow movie.

CharacterActor2025-12-07 14:30

I love the comics Taskmaster!

I love the Thunderbolts movie!

But the MCU Taskmaster was just pointlessly burned off.

Couldn’t Feige have called her, ohhhhhh, ANYTHING ELSE!

Same with Red Hulk/General Thunderbolt Ross.

The story lines, character development, ACTION, tv, movies we’ll never see. Because Taskmaster is dead. And General Ross (YOU WERE NEVER MY PRESIDENT!) in prison.

Wasted.

dominion10802025-12-07 16:02

I agree completely. Taskmaster could’ve been so much more fun. But once Marvel stopped hiring comic fans and allowing these writers who couldn’t care less about the source to make these projects, we started seeing a lot of this.

CharacterActor2025-12-08 00:35

I was part of a Focus Group for the Broadway Spider-Man musical, Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark.

It was horrendous. And disrespectful of the source material.

Bono had met Ted Turner. And had the bright idea that Norman Osborne should have a southern accent. Simply because Bono knew Ted Turner and thought it was a good idea.

So I’m sitting in the Focus Group after having watched it. And I said there’s another Focus Group that they should be consulting. It’s a Focus Group that meets every month at comic bookstores. Where they buy the latest issue of Spider-Man as they have for years and decades.

I saw it early, when they still had the comic song from the mythological female spider villain. Who having many legs, had an obsession with having different women shoes on the end of every leg.

LittleMissBoogie2025-12-08 02:57

To be fair she wasn’t technically Taskmaster, she was mind controlled with the “Taskmaster Program”. There was no need to kill her off when they’d left an opening for a more comic accurate version to show up.

CharacterActor2025-12-08 03:32

Wish.

But they burned off the name and photographic reflexives.

I don’t see them introducing a character like Taskmaster that is going to needs a lot of explaining after they’ve already had a similar (but far less fun) character with the same name.

LittleMissBoogie2025-12-08 16:15

Would it be that hard to explain? You could just say that Antonia's programing was based on the real Taskmaster's skills. She's boring because she was mind controlled but the real Taskmaster has a different personality. The only issue is that's sort of a repeat of what they did with The Mandarin.

dominion10802025-12-08 16:59

That’s true. They made the real, at least more accurate Mandarin and it wasn’t an issue. The real Taskmaster could show up as a great Sam Cap villain. He couldve been the one who prototyped the photographic reflexes and offers his training for villains as usual.

JackfruitCreative9882025-12-07 13:44

I loved John Walker/US Agent much more after this film.

Responsible_Egg75192025-12-07 15:21

It’s great. It got me invested in the MCU again

AwarenessOk77482025-12-07 17:54

The movie is really good (Elena and Sentry are the highlight of the film), but some of the team members (Bucky and Ghost) are unnecessary and their struggle with their fears is not shown.

SendThisVoidAway182025-12-07 18:29

It's quite a good film. As someone who is not a huge fan of films that MCU has made since Endgame (though there are some) I was pleasantly surprised by Thunderbolts and quite like it.

Buhos_En_Pantelones2025-12-07 18:30

My only tiny nit-pick was the "I don't like you, you don't like me" and the "We're disposable losers".

I get that's the entire theme of the film but they were *this* close to hitting you over the head with it. Luckily they kinda let up in the second act.

WishbonePrior93772025-12-08 04:01

If you watch Thunderbolts then rewatch Black Widow, it becomes Yelana’s story

kulitchipon2025-12-08 08:40

I love all the shots she took at Natasha for being an Avenger, not knowing she's on the path to becoming one too

SynnerSaint2025-12-08 11:58

>I'm not much a movie person

You may have picked the wrong franchise!