Fantastic Four First Step net cost $181 million after U.K. tax breaks

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Commercial_Site6222025-12-05 16:47

A lot better than Deadpool and Wolverine.

No-Dealer-28182025-12-05 16:48

indeed, please share and spread the word!

riegspsych3252025-12-05 18:29

but why? DP&W may have cost a lot compared to First Steps but it still brought in $800mill more. So the movie wasn’t a giant hit right out of the gate, not like we won’t be seeing these characters in 2 Avengers movies. Copium isn’t required to enjoy this movie

No-Dealer-28182025-12-05 18:34

Deadpool and Wolverine was a sequel to 2 prior beloved marvel projects under Fox. Fantastic Four Firsr Steps is the 3rd reboot attempt which has seen middling to poor reception from their initial outings and still First Steps overcame those odds with a much better reception and came out outgross all 3 prior adaptations, even outgrossing the 2005 and 2007 versions, adjusted to ticket price inflation

riegspsych3252025-12-05 18:44

not denying any of that, and it’s also the first F4 film to actually be good. But why must we “spread the word”? It feels less like sharing enjoyment over a movie and more like copium (when it isn’t needed)

ZombieFromReddit2025-12-06 01:22

Dude the movie opened lower than the marvels and thunderbolts in Disney plus. Nielsen reported that which is basically the standard for TV ratings.

It’s clear that no one other than hardcore fans care about these characters and this movie did not change that.

No-Dealer-28182025-12-06 01:37

Dude, the movie outgrossed 6 of those movies on that Nielsen lists, Nielsen. Does that mean the marvels, Thunderbolts, cap 4, were more popular then?

ZombieFromReddit2025-12-06 01:52

I am not saying that the marvels was a success. However, this movies main goal was to revive the f4 brand which was damaged as hell.

And to recap, the movie made ok at the box office but did not do well in streaming.to me that screams that the movie was pretty good and hyped mcu fans went to see it but ga didn’t care. If the wom was this positive, it would have killed it in streaming.

The closest comparison I can think of is batman begins. Both of these movies were following up some of the worst movies ever made and both barely broke even at the box office. The difference is that batman begins was one of the best selling dvds of that year. That is the power of good wom among general audience.

No-Dealer-28182025-12-06 01:58

Ironically, the original Fantastic Four and Batman Begins were merely weeks apart when they were released and only $40 million apart in worldwide gross. You are right that both IPs were tarnished by prior adaptations before them and those iterations were the best reviewed but had modest box office, only time will time if a sequel will help its reception moving forward

No-Dealer-28182025-12-06 01:42

Dude, Deadpool and Wolverine didnt even make it onto that list lol, does that mean the movie wasnt popular after it left theaters

ZombieFromReddit2025-12-06 01:47

Learn to read first. That list was only for mcu movies that deputed on a Wednesday so as to give a fair comparison. Deadpool and wolverine released on a Tuesday.

No-Dealer-28182025-12-05 18:35

All this to say, that the Fantastic Four is a viable franchise and its future in the mcu is secured as you shared with them being featured in the upcoming Avengers films

Commercial_Site6222025-12-05 19:00

By this statement, I was referring to the budget. Not the quality.

After_Dig_75792025-12-06 08:18

Applies to the quality as well 😛

Responsible-Bonus2782025-12-06 09:31

I liked F4 but I enjoyed Deadpool and Wolverine a lot more. It was way more fun

Cute_Source54172025-12-07 19:34

both of them lack in the rewatchability factor for me..I still can watch Infinity War and feel like it was a fantastic movie from start to finish.

eBICgamer20102025-12-05 16:56

Black Widow's costs subsequently increased to a total of $296.7 million (£232.3 million) and The Fantastic Four's spending is likely to *rise* in its next set of financial statements as post production was still underway when the latest set of filings was produced.

You forgot to read this part chief. There's another financial statement for the post-production period Disney has yet to reveal.

No-Dealer-28182025-12-05 16:58

indeed, however, Black Widow by that same author still states that Black Widow was still profitable due to Disney+ premiere Access revenue of $125 million back in August 2021

[Marvel’s ‘Black Widow’ Made Disney $67 Million. Here’s Why](https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinereid/2023/08/31/marvels-black-widow-made-disney-67-million-heres-why/)

SilverRoyce2025-12-05 18:22

The author in question has no ability to see internal Disney profit/loss sheets. What she's describing is not a conceptually reasonable approach to describing profit/loss.

matty_nice2025-12-05 17:01

> It explains why the latest filings for Solve Everything Productions cover the 13 months to November 30, 2024, which coincided with the end of filming. They reveal that by then $229.6 million (£180.9 million) had been spent on the movie with one of the biggest single costs believed to be the wages of the staff who peaked at a monthly average of 265 people. That doesn’t even include freelancers, contractors and temporary workers as they aren't listed as employees on the books of U.K. companies even though they often represent the majority of the crew on a film shoot.

So just until Nov 2024, not counting anything else after. I would assume post-production on these types of films would be expensive due to things like VFX work, even reshoots.

Peimai2025-12-05 17:04

That's actually sort of responsible by Disney.

matty_nice2025-12-05 17:16

Looks like the box office subreddit has the D+ vieweship for the film. That's looking pretty bad. Can't wait to see that thread here.

No-Dealer-28182025-12-05 17:20

yeah, and they all fail to acknowledge to see that F4 outgross 6 of those mcu movies in that list and even madam web was streamed more than Deadpool and Wolverine last year on netflix

matty_nice2025-12-05 17:30

Without checking the numbers, I'll assume Netflix has a lot more
viewers than D+.

Typically, movies get higher views on streaming when the film is talked about or/and had a significant marketing budget. The interest for the FF just doesn't seem to be there.

But this all seems like mental gymanstics to justify that the FF was a hit, or not a dissapointment in terms of box office and viewership.

ProductArizona2025-12-05 17:17

So yeah, when all said and done they profited about 50-100m box office. Not bad at all

matty_nice2025-12-05 18:07

We dont even know the final production costs. This is just part of the production.

ProductArizona2025-12-05 18:15

Is the article not saying after tax breaks the final cost was around 180m?

matty_nice2025-12-05 18:29

The article is only accounting for costs until Nov 2024, so after principal filming. Not accounting for things like post production or reshoots.

So the budget reported is gonna increase, probably a significant amount. I guess another 50M, but we will have to wait and see.

ProductArizona2025-12-05 18:40

Well, there goes the profit I was talking about 😆

SilverRoyce2025-12-05 18:21

I don't like the headline. It's on track to be an average cost MCU film filmed in the UK.

No-Dealer-28182025-12-05 18:26

The average cost of an mcu films has gone up since covid and the strikes delayed alot of mcu projects, the article notes that this has been the cheapest mcu project yet and Kevin Feige has noted they been actively cutting costs, as they are moving from Georgia to U.K. for their projects going forward.

SilverRoyce2025-12-05 18:44

> This comparison reveals that the six other MCU movies made in the U.K. since the start of the pandemic all had higher costs than The Fantastic Four **by the time that filming had finished**

(1) It just goes without saying that you can't compare "final" costs to "in progress" costs. D&W reported a lower amount of spending through 9 months prior to release than F4 did through 8 months prior to release yet D&W's final number ended up being crazy high.

I don't think it's crazy to make a "this is showing some cost restraints" point but I don't really agree.

(2) some of these films have absolutely insane cost overruns due to either the pandemic (DS2) or creative mismanagement/debates.

I don't think people hear "cheapest MCU film" and think "this just means it didn't have either early covid specific insane cost overruns or abnormally messy productions (Marvels which also pushed AM3 up and helped both films costs to spiral).

TheForeverUnbanned2025-12-06 16:03

A few years from now they’ll announce the final cost as 400 million or some Hollywood accounting garbage to stuff a few extra million in some exec pockets.