Thought this was an interesting match up since Doctor Octopus can go toe to toe with spidey so what are his odds against beast who Spider-Man is superior in strength
It’s true, Beast is no match for Doc Ock. Blue fur everywhere.
TrollTollTony2025-12-05 03:30
Are you saying Beast rips Ock's arms off or Ock rips Beast's arms off? Your statement is ambiguous.
weebaz19732025-12-05 07:58
Beast rips Doc's arms off
Kindly_Ratio98572025-12-05 03:42
And those are attached to his spine too. He’s dead or paralyzed
D20_Buster2025-12-05 00:48
Depends which version of doc ock. The ultimate marvel version basically turned him into a human version of magneto. Beast can’t beat that version.
AdditionalBanana95852025-12-05 01:02
Obviously, the one in the image.
MaderaArt2025-12-05 01:09
a rich man
BladeOfWoah2025-12-05 01:27
If it's the one in the movies, then I would go with Beast, purely because he has the resources of the X-Men's mansion, while movie Doc Ock had to have his funding from Oscorp or steal resources.
A_Serious_House2025-12-05 00:49
I would say Beast because he could climb the arms and dismantle the technology, but Spider-Man is equally agile and in the movies Doc Ock would’ve never allowed him to crawl up his arms and take him out without doing something about it. I think he clears Beast, depending on where it is. In Beast’s lab or a prepared Beast would win.
Kingpin12322025-12-05 00:54
Spider-Man did punch him a lot though. It’d be a whole different level of pain for Otto to be getting a claw to the face. Not to mention Aunt May rocking him with the Umbrella, he’s kind of all over the place durability wise.
UnhingedGammaWarrior2025-12-05 00:49
Tbh I’d say they’re an even match up, but they both have means of securing victory.
Ock isn’t afraid to be ruthless and wouldn’t hesitate to kill Beast given the circumstance, likely stabbing him off guard.
Beast seems likely stronger and could overpower Ock by damaging his tentacles, rendering him useless.
They’re both super smart so they’re gonna strategize while fighting, it really all depends on who does what first.
Altruistic_Eye_11572025-12-05 01:02
I'd say one way to determine this would be by looking at the achievements of these two versions.
On one hand, Molina's Doc Ock, despite starring in an entire movie, only won the train fight, and even that was by cheating, trying to tire Peter out by stopping the train.
In reality, he's lost all his fights because he's only focused on killing Spidey, ignoring obvious things that ultimately defeat him.
\- He doesn't properly secure May, giving her free rein to hit him.
\- He doesn't realize that Peter is clearly very close to the high-voltage power lines.
\- The brute allows nanotechnology beyond his control to fuse with his arms.
On the other hand, Beast not only has a lot of experience (since he's been alive since the '60s) but has also had more fights, most of which he's won. Obviously, most are team fights, but he's shown that when he calms down and doesn't let his rage get the better of him, he's capable of devising quick plans that give him the advantage.
In the final battle, we saw Grammer's Beast as more composed and strategic than his younger self, so I'd say that, although it would be a very close fight, Octavius would overlook a detail that would give Beast the advantage, possibly leading to his defeat.
Flying_Mohawk2772025-12-05 01:36
Eh. Looking at achievements to compare is so hard to do since really it all depends on the comic/ current cinema storyline.
Power levels are all over the place.
IMO, best way to compare is to just go at it logically.
raincntry2025-12-05 05:42
Underrated point about Beast’s lifelong training and battles. As an X-man he both fought countless battles but trained relentlessly in the Danger Room. In fights, experience, skill and training matter.
Makewaker2025-12-05 06:03
I don’t know how fair it is to compare Ock’s fights with Spider-Man, in the movie or comics. Spider-man is one of the most overtuned superheroes ever. His spider sense alone means he can toe to toe with the essentially anybody in combat and he is also a genius. As well as, Spider-Man would whoop beasts ass in virtually any universe with relative ease. Beast wouldn’t be able to get anywhere close to him since his webbing while may not be able to hold down Beast for long it would still give plenty of time for Spider-Man to knock him out and even if he did get close it simply would not be able to touch him. He is too quick, strong and once again spider sense is one of the most overpowered abilities ever. So, the fact that Doc Ock can put up a really good fight against Spider-Man, you can infer that Beast fighting Doc Ock would be a rough uphill battle for him alone.
UNSC_Spartan1222025-12-05 01:14
If Spider-Man couldn’t simply rip off Ocks arms, then beast certainly can’t.
jedidoesit2025-12-05 01:44
And his arms aren't weak. He's throwing cars with ease.
Intelligent-Ad-34672025-12-05 06:37
Spiderman could if he wanted to, but he would probably rip doc oct in half in the process, which is why he doesn't do it
batsmen2222025-12-05 15:19
Beast is stronger than spider man. At least based on my marvel comics cards and google. Although spider man depending on the writer lifts 10 to 25 tons and then much much higher.
Punky9212025-12-05 03:51
I figure Hank's gonna bring an EMP grenade and that'll be that.
Altruistic_Eye_11572025-12-05 00:50
Well, regarding this Dockock (Raimi's version) and the Beast from possibly Earth-10005, I think it would be interesting.
Since, unlike Spider-Man, Beast is much more muscular and tends to be more physical, that's partly why Spider-Man is harder to restrain; he's more elusive. However, Beast is also very strong and could easily destroy one of Doc ock's arms without much trouble.
I think something that could change the game is that Beast usually takes full advantage of his surroundings, and being a genius, he prioritizes finding his enemies' weaknesses. This is in contrast to Molina's Doc ock, whose biggest weakness is his stubbornness. Every time he's been defeated, it's because he can only think about "killing Spider-Man" without realizing that sometimes he's practically handing himself over on a silver platter.
So although I think it would be a very close fight, considering that this Doc ock hasn't won any of the fights he's been in, I'm inclined to think that Beast could beat him.
TrollTollTony2025-12-05 03:48
I think you are overestimating Beast and underestimating Spider-Man. I know power levels are mostly bullshit but the numbers I've seen for Spidey's strength is 10-ton while Beast is 1-ton. Spider-Man has spider sense, Beast doesn't. Spider-Man has webs, Beast doesn't. Spider-Man is stronger, faster and has additional powers and still struggles against dock Ock's arms. I don't think it will be as easy for Beast as you're claiming.
GarrodRanX22025-12-05 00:53
The thing about Doc Ock, is that other than the arms, he's just a normal human.
GullibleGap99662025-12-05 01:47
He gets slammed around a good bit in spiderman 2 and probably should have died from it but he just shook it off every time lol
It was good movie but I always got a kick out of that, not realistic
ItsAProdigalReturn2025-12-05 02:52
>He gets slammed around a good bit in spiderman 2 and probably should have died from it but he just shook it off every time lol
Which is a major problem of Spider-Man 2
Kindly_Ratio98572025-12-05 03:43
Tobey was just holding back but still looked like he wasn’t
jsnxander2025-12-05 03:37
Plot armor is the most effective armor ever invented by mankind. Harder and yet more versatile adamantium, more absorbent than vibranium, and with a Phoenix's ability to renew when defeated.
DarkShadowZX2025-12-05 00:59
In close quarters Beast has better chances. At mid-range Doc Ock has better chances.
Abides19482025-12-05 01:01
Rhodey wins. He's clearly set them up to take each other out, then Rhodey takes the prize.
Desi_Vigor2025-12-05 01:36
I vote Ock—hard to doge his 90mph arms without Spider Sense.
ccReptilelord2025-12-05 03:43
This is my answer. I've yet to see a Beast fast enough to deal with the tentacles. Because: Dr Octopus is capable against Spider-Man; Spider-sense is essentially pre-cognition. Maybe if Beast has web slinging, but he don't. He's just furry.
Possible-Tip-29142025-12-05 01:53
Ock. He's got reach, power, and dexterity on his side.
Gilded-Mongoose2025-12-05 01:56
It has somehow never occurred to me, at the same time, that they exist in the same universe.
Fortn1t3_240x2025-12-05 03:11
Yes lol at least in the same multiverse. That’s why I kinda made this post also lol. Since both these characters existed in the mcu at one point
leevo2025-12-05 02:15
Molina Ock has never really been a fighter. Beast has a ton more experience being an xmen
I think it’s a pretty fair fight but beasts experience comes through. Doc probably beats himself being cocky and overlooking beast
dcooper86622025-12-05 02:22
It’s Beast. His combo of speed, agility and strength is overwhelming, and he’s possibly a better scientist than Doc Ock. Also Beast typically is a bit more morally fluid than Spider-Man, and would not hold back as much in a fight which Octavius may not anticipate.
franxxcisco2025-12-05 02:33
Yes.
HearTheEkko2025-12-05 03:21
If Beast is willing to kill, he wins. If he doesn’t, Ock wins.
Marconius16172025-12-05 03:59
If Beast avoids the arms and can close the gap , he should be able to rip Octavius’ body apart. BUT, Beast never shown to be super fast and Otto’s arms are moving at lightning speeds that Spidey could only dodge with his sense
lifesyndrom2025-12-05 05:11
It’s clear this sub don’t know shit about beast. Beast has dealt with the likes of magneto, sentinels, apocalypse (and other powerful beings) and yall think he can’t handle doc ock????😂😂😂
Even if you take the intelligence out of the picture, he’ll rip through doc ock’s arms with ease. And without his arms, doc is a middle age regular human, one swipe from beast and he’s dead.
And if we bring up intelligence…while I do believe doc ock is very smart, I think beast still outmatch him.
Btw im talking both comics and film.
rmeddy2025-12-05 06:51
Presuming it's the same Beast from X3, probably still Ock , those arms and their semi-intelligence would be a problem.
SnooGuavas95732025-12-05 09:05
Has no one here actually seen how Hank fights lol. Otto would not just be able to pin him down and overwhelm him for free, hank is simultaneously extremely smart and very acrobatic and nimble. One of his core abilities is his super human agility, he vary reasonably could dodge the arms.
Also, if it's modern, morally dubious Hank he would absolutely be willing to cheat to win lol
MMFRESHSW22025-12-05 09:33
beast has the power 2 rip ocks head off especially if he goes feral
PoorLifeChoices8112025-12-05 10:11
Mist or Beast
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Ock isn’t afraid to be ruthless and wouldn’t hesitate to kill Beast given the circumstance, likely stabbing him off guard.
Beast seems likely stronger and could overpower Ock by damaging his tentacles, rendering him useless.
They’re both super smart so they’re gonna strategize while fighting, it really all depends on who does what first.
On one hand, Molina's Doc Ock, despite starring in an entire movie, only won the train fight, and even that was by cheating, trying to tire Peter out by stopping the train.
In reality, he's lost all his fights because he's only focused on killing Spidey, ignoring obvious things that ultimately defeat him.
\- He doesn't properly secure May, giving her free rein to hit him.
\- He doesn't realize that Peter is clearly very close to the high-voltage power lines.
\- The brute allows nanotechnology beyond his control to fuse with his arms.
On the other hand, Beast not only has a lot of experience (since he's been alive since the '60s) but has also had more fights, most of which he's won. Obviously, most are team fights, but he's shown that when he calms down and doesn't let his rage get the better of him, he's capable of devising quick plans that give him the advantage.
In the final battle, we saw Grammer's Beast as more composed and strategic than his younger self, so I'd say that, although it would be a very close fight, Octavius would overlook a detail that would give Beast the advantage, possibly leading to his defeat.
Power levels are all over the place.
IMO, best way to compare is to just go at it logically.
Since, unlike Spider-Man, Beast is much more muscular and tends to be more physical, that's partly why Spider-Man is harder to restrain; he's more elusive. However, Beast is also very strong and could easily destroy one of Doc ock's arms without much trouble.
I think something that could change the game is that Beast usually takes full advantage of his surroundings, and being a genius, he prioritizes finding his enemies' weaknesses. This is in contrast to Molina's Doc ock, whose biggest weakness is his stubbornness. Every time he's been defeated, it's because he can only think about "killing Spider-Man" without realizing that sometimes he's practically handing himself over on a silver platter.
So although I think it would be a very close fight, considering that this Doc ock hasn't won any of the fights he's been in, I'm inclined to think that Beast could beat him.
It was good movie but I always got a kick out of that, not realistic
Which is a major problem of Spider-Man 2
I think it’s a pretty fair fight but beasts experience comes through. Doc probably beats himself being cocky and overlooking beast
Even if you take the intelligence out of the picture, he’ll rip through doc ock’s arms with ease. And without his arms, doc is a middle age regular human, one swipe from beast and he’s dead.
And if we bring up intelligence…while I do believe doc ock is very smart, I think beast still outmatch him.
Btw im talking both comics and film.
Also, if it's modern, morally dubious Hank he would absolutely be willing to cheat to win lol
If you're asking an open-ended question, try to add your own personal answer and the reasoning.