Do we think Shang-Chi’s Ten Rings will still play a vital role in Doom’s Plan & the Doomsday/Secret Wars Plot, as they originally seemed to be for Kang Dynasty?—Will the signal shown during the post-credits scene be addressed?

I just wonder with ‘Kang Dynasty’ originally having Destin Daniel Cretton as director, and the ‘Shang-Chi’ post-credit scenes seeming to setup a mystery behind the origins of the Ten Rings and the signal that it was sending (also similarities with the Quantum Realm technology shown in ‘Quntumania’, it was safe to assume that the Ten Rings would end up becoming an important artifact within the entire scheme of the multiverse saga.

Though with the story being reworked to revolve around Doctor Doom, I am just wondering if Shang-Chi’s role will stay the same, and how the signal & abilities of the rings will contribute to the plot now that the Kang connections might be glossed over in favour of having the be important for Doom’s journey. Even though Shang-Chi will certainly be a huge asset to Sam’s Avengers and the entire hero lineup, there’s the idea of him adding a sense of vulnerability to the team since Doom might be after the rings and they must keep them away from him (like Thanos chasing Vision in Infinity War).

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a_o2025-12-04 21:01

maybe HWR stole the bangles and the rings from Doom and hid them in universe 616 before pruning all* of his variants?

a_o2025-12-04 21:10

maybe, like kinda Loki and Sylvie, the artifacts themselves while not exactly sentient inanimate objects had some…residual consciousness of the universe itself trying to break free from the constraints of the sacred timeline and the TVA’s pruning?

not that they’re trying to rewrite the story of the sacred timeline, but moreso just following along until the ideal conditions for the multiverse to be free present themselves. maybe they’re like a trojan horse that can phone home, the foil to HWR’s failsafe plan to repeatedly destroy the TVA, the loom and simply reset everything accordingly.

like, the bangles ripped a hole in spacetime and connected the 616 to 10005 and nowhere else.

xSaRgED2025-12-05 02:28

Was Monica sent to 10005 as well? Or was it a Fox universe without a designation yet?

a_o2025-12-05 02:42

a_o2025-12-05 02:58

Yeah, it may just have to be that…sort of days of future past retconned/“regenerated” universe from deadpool & wolverine for simplicity’s sake. If her presence there would confuse and destabilize reality and eventually lead to incursion with her universe of origin, anyway.

edit: also for what its worth, the marvels was the last movie to release before deadpool & wolverine. they probably can’t pass up on acknowledging that kind of direct continuity in post-credit scenes. considering the fact that deadpool went to 616 all the way back in 2018, this incursion has been a long time coming.

GojiraFan29972025-12-05 15:02

[Here’s a good video breaking all of that down.](https://youtu.be/ZzUaes_njPg?si=FOv-fF8x4IWHtBya)

maverickassembled2025-12-04 22:18

I could see this as a possibility. So the artifacts we’ve seen being technology developed or was further developed by doom? HWR saw a potential threat.

a_o2025-12-04 22:28

Yeah. I figure HWR didn’t suspect that Doom is still more clever than he is (even while written out of existence via…i dunno, causational paradox?…complicated IP rights dispute? 😂)

Biding his time, from outside of time and space, awaiting that homing beacon Shang Chi set off to regain his full power.

Live_Answer_38752025-12-04 21:05

I loved Shang Chi. I have been waiting for them to address the signal. My guess, though, is that it’s been dropped as a story beat. We will see.

maverickassembled2025-12-04 21:18

Im with you there. If that were the case, I’m not sure which I’d rather have, them answering the mystery behind the signal with a quick line in Doomsday, or perhaps saving the reveal/origins for a future Shang-Chi focused story, because god knows how long it would take. I figure his sister would have something to say about their dad’s rings

Spensir_McLife2025-12-04 21:24

Explaining them in a direct sequel to Shang Chi as their own things would be best at this point. Maybe they can tie it into Kun Lun and Iron Fist since they are changing a lot about the mythos any way.

maverickassembled2025-12-04 22:15

That would be awesome, leaning more into the mystical aspects. Wenwu’s death be alerted to different powerful and skilled entities across the heavenly cities.. everyone chasing to get the rings.. maybe a tournament type of deal

Spensir_McLife2025-12-04 23:34

A Tournament Arc for the Marvel Universe centered around Shang-Chi could be one of the most fun films ever.

tkcal2025-12-05 12:53

OMG - please rewrite this in caps - maybe someone will take notice!

Bobafacts2025-12-04 21:11

Crazy how there are only 9 rings there……

Bobafacts2025-12-04 21:11

Got’em

maverickassembled2025-12-04 21:19

Bruh.

Fell for the dumbest trick in the book.

SeekerVash2025-12-04 21:13

There's ten, you probably missed the upper left corner as it blends into the background art.

Bobafacts2025-12-04 21:55

Oh you counted? You sure?

Herogeen2025-12-04 21:11

I don't think so. Shang-Chi will likely only be a minor character, meaning his rings won't have much significance to the story. Ms. Marvel's bangles were also supposed to be connected to Kang, but she's not even listed in the main cast of the film. Apparently, Doom's plan will include:

- Franklin Richards (because of abilities)

- Loki (because he controls the multiverse)

- Steve Rogers (Because he creates a lot of incursions while living with Peggy)

JargonJohn2025-12-04 21:50

>- Steve Rogers (Because he creates a lot of incursions while living with Peggy)

Nice.

GojiraFan29972025-12-04 22:30

Loki doesn’t control the multiverse. He guards Earth-616 and its branches that are slowly reconnecting with the multiverse now that the Loom is gone.

LokiHereYo2025-12-05 09:35

Wait. So Loki is only God of Storying for the 616 universe & it’s timelines - he has no power across the wider multiverse ? Are you saying time & the multiverse are different things? Isn’t the TVA (and thus Loki) overseeing both?

chiefbrody622025-12-05 11:29

From what I understand, since there's no longer a loom, the 616 is just one of the branches, that has more branches coming off of it that are part of the 616/sacred timeline. He still is holding in place all timelines and the branches that continue to grow off them.

GojiraFan29972025-12-05 14:57

[This video does a good job explaining why the Sacred Timeline isn’t the multiverse.](https://youtu.be/eabVqU1ar0s?si=si9fvO-pR9mbF6Zx)

YaMomsCooch2025-12-05 05:36

Yeah, it’s a shame he won’t be as integral to the story as he was planned to be in the original version of Doomsday (Kang’s dynasty directed by Daniel destin Cretton)

Do you think he’ll truly be minor though? Or maybe at least a supporting but still satellite role storywise? I’d hate for him to only be there for cool moments in the fight scenes with his Rings and then maybe a snarky line here and there…

GojiraFan29972025-12-04 22:28

Honestly, if Doomsday doesn’t resolve the beacon thread, then Marvel should retcon that post-credits scene. They should remove it from Shang-Chi on Disney Plus to avoid confusing future viewers.

Towelie-420692025-12-04 22:45

All I know is that I heard he might fight Gambit and my brain might actually pour out of my ears if I get to see that.

maverickassembled2025-12-04 22:50

Fukkk that’s an underrated matchup right there. Badass to even think about. The cards clashing with the rings would be magic to my ears

Towelie-420692025-12-04 22:51

On God bro. I’m also DESPERATELY awaiting the day Shang-Chi shows up in Rivals to put Iron Fist in his place too.

Fat_Stacks12025-12-04 22:57

Sarang_6162025-12-04 23:09

To quell OP worry about the Ten Rings, I hereby share [my Easter Egg breakdown](https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers/s/Wq7ZF277gY) from the Disney Expo in China a few months ago.

justin215862025-12-04 23:17

I think the rings are the McGuffin to stop Doom this time around

Obvious-End-79482025-12-05 03:09

Yeah I can see the rings and Kamala's bangles being the equivalent to Vision having the mind stone in Infinity War. Something that requires Doom to attack the heroes directly at some point instead of ignoring them and going about his business.

QuickerandDeader2025-12-05 03:44

This is my theory too. I think there will be a smart team and a fight team. Shang will be stuck on the smart team because they are using the rings as a battery to power their mcguffin (call back to the original rings powering Fin Fang Fooms ship). Then when Doom comes after the smart team we get classic martial artist Shang Chi defending them.

justin215862025-12-05 04:47

Ooooh I like it

tom-of-the-nora2025-12-04 23:18

Distress beacon from the kangs being attacked by doom.

LokiHereYo2025-12-05 09:37

Yeah they travel to the Council of Kangs - where the beacon came from - and just find a load of dead Kangs. Quick JMajors cameo to death whisper a warning about Doom and BOOM off we go!

Sea-Strike-17582025-12-04 23:52

No, and no.

ReddiTrawler20212025-12-05 00:45

Let's see if they can follow it up. It's been five years, they should do something by now.

Ok_Problem_3142025-12-05 12:12

Way too long of a gap to be waiting for something. The first 3 phases of the MCU, you never had to wait more than 2 years to see a character on the screen. They released way too many movies after Endgame without another Avengers film and it’s resulted in several characters getting only screen time and development in their own film. Shang Chi is such a cool character too.

Low-Struggle-56472025-12-05 01:34

They could take that post credit scene to explain why Doom comes to 616. Maybe he got drawn to it by the signal to rebuild the multiverse with Franklin (who was kidnapped at the post credit scene in FF First Steps). This is at least my approach how they could use the plot point of the ring signal to tell a coherent story.

Mizerous2025-12-05 01:37

They will just be magic rings he uses nothing more.

BravoLeader30002025-12-05 02:02

I think the signal was going to Arishem, and since we're not going to see the Eternals in Doomsday, I don't think the Rings will play much of a role.

CuteLingonberry97042025-12-05 16:12

That was my take, given that Eternals was released after Shang Chi. They did say it was really old, and there's nothing to indicate any of the Avengers have any clue who the Eternals are. Except for the giant creature that was emerging in the Indian Ocean.

BravoLeader30002025-12-05 19:31

There are lots of rings/circles involved with the Eternals costumes, as well.

Ok_Problem_3142025-12-05 12:09

Everything after Endgame has felt directionless.. so many cool new characters that haven’t had a single second of screen time since their movie was released. It’s criminal that Shang Chi hasn’t had screen time since 2021, same with the Eternals. They released way too many movies before having an Avengers team up movie, while ignoring the much needed screen time for their characters.

tiggoftigg2025-12-05 14:07

I think it’s a fairly easy tie-in to Doom and his tech/magic. But we’ll see!

Do we think Shang-Chi’s Ten Rings will still play a vital role in Doom’s Plan &amp; the Doomsday/Secret Wars Plot, as they originally seemed to be for Kang Dynasty?—Will the signal shown during the post-credits scene be addressed?

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Do we think Shang-Chi’s Ten Rings will still play a vital role in Doom’s Plan & the Doomsday/Secret Wars Plot, as they originally seemed to be for Kang Dynasty?—Will the signal shown during the post-credits scene be addressed?